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Postby Luepola » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:44 am

SuperFruitLand wrote:
Orangeinton wrote:The big bang theory is absurd. What caused the Big Bang?


I dunno, I ain't a fucking rocket scientist.

But think about it. Is the Big Bang not more realistic than some imaginary being going "on teh first day i went 'poof' and all teh wurld came into being" etc.?


Well the latter is obviously going to sound stupid if you automatically assume the being to be imaginary
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Postby UBS » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:45 am

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UBS wrote:1:Hitler was not biased,he talked about the french and english in a GOOD LIGHT,the people who killed his fellow soldiers in ww1.
2:i'll do some digging later,you can't expect me to pull something out my a** in 2 seconds
3:many reasons such as,you are more likely not to find a compatiable organ donor if you are mixed race.statistics show if you are black,you are more likely to hang out with other black people,due to NATURAL instinct,not racial prejudice.because some smart white men and women don't make it to college due to MINORITY QUOTAS!


1. So you think the man who ordered the execution of 6 million jews, was not anti-Jew?
2.
3. What? Evidence? Why should smart black men and women not go to Uni?

PS, it is Europe's "fault" anyway, we took their land

1:he was anti zionist,Who were jewish Supremacists,also he did not hate the WORKING CLASS JEW.
3:SMART black men and women should go to college,ONLY SMART ONES,and they should use there intellect to rebuild there home to it's former glory.

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Postby Centenniality » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:45 am

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New Carloso wrote:Mmmm, Brahma


Hard not to laugh at that.


That's perfect, I laughed too.

You think your drink is the best? Ours is a damn deity, HOW'S THAT?
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Postby SuperFruitland » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:45 am

Luepola wrote:
SuperFruitLand wrote:
I dunno, I ain't a fucking rocket scientist.

But think about it. Is the Big Bang not more realistic than some imaginary being going "on teh first day i went 'poof' and all teh wurld came into being" etc.?


Well the latter is obviously going to sound stupid if you automatically assume the being to be imaginary


I do automatically assume the being is imaginary, because you can't touch God, can you?

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Postby Aden Protectorate » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:45 am

Deian salazar wrote:
Aden Protectorate wrote:Please.

The bible is the most interesting novel to read, if you read it as one. Full of Drama, Betrayal. The perfect novel if you ask me. I loved every second of it.

But the idea that there is a man up in the clouds who created everything with his magical powers boggles my mind.

I'm a Christian saying it's cool to look at it that way.

It's my 2nd favorite,behind Romance Of The 3 Kingdoms.


Actually scratch that. Its one of my favourite novels. Nothing beats Pride and Prejudice, Something Fierce or The House of the Spirits.

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Postby Arcturus Novus » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:45 am

Sahrani South wrote:
Alexzanabbgggggg wrote:
what caused God?


This question is like asking which Lord of the rings book came out before the first one lol

How can something exist before time itself? I can understand if a deity exists before the concept of time, or maybe even from the moment time began, but before time? Logically speaking, it's impossible.
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Postby Liriena » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:46 am

Orangeinton wrote:There is logical evidence of a creator, it's just a matter if your willing to acknowledge it.

Show it to us, then.
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Postby UBS » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:46 am

The Kokyuna Clan wrote:
Orangeinton wrote:The big bang theory is absurd. What caused the Big Bang?


Well, the Big Bang is a theory as of now.

It's pretty much what we're using until further evidence is discovered.

Ask like any damn astrophysicist and they'll tell you that until they find further evidence for something else, they'll use the Big Bang THEORY.

Though, they have been finding evidence of the Big Bang across the cosmos, but it is not as verifiable as say, evolution's evidence.

So your putting FAITH in the big bang theory,BRILLIANT.i'm fine with you not believeing in god,just don't be pretentious

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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:46 am

Luepola wrote:
SuperFruitLand wrote:
I dunno, I ain't a fucking rocket scientist.

But think about it. Is the Big Bang not more realistic than some imaginary being going "on teh first day i went 'poof' and all teh wurld came into being" etc.?


Well the latter is obviously going to sound stupid if you automatically assume the being to be imaginary


True, but do christians not do the same when they dismiss other gods ;) ?
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Postby IisraelL » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:47 am

UBS wrote:
Alexzanabbgggggg wrote:
1. evidence?
2. evidence?
3. So?

1:SOME OF HITLERS ORIGINAL SPEECHES ADDRESSING ZIONISTS
2:Newspaper articles written by zionists mentioning a holocaust that had not even happened yet,hell ww2 had not even started!
3:we believe in the SEGREGATION of races,not EXTERMANATION,hell there are not even any documents found in Nazi germany even talking about a holocaust,what it talks about is rounding up people because they had LICE,which back then carried horrible disease (sorry if i have bad grammar)

1. A propaganda speech of one of the worst human beings that ever existed- not a source.
2. Ah, I see. You're a holocaust denier... Not worth my time.
3. We don't care about your beliefs.

Why the hell would you choose to be a hating person? I just don't get why people hate others they never met like that...
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Postby Orangeinton » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:47 am

Skinia wrote:
The Haida Confederation wrote:Yes. I'm ready...

I will show you God. There He is. Now all you need to do is call him a faggot. I'm sure that will be enough to doom this universe.
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Postby Elepis » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:47 am

Alexzanabbgggggg wrote:
Sahrani South wrote:Atheism is quite possibly one of the worst sins in the eyes of the Church. It includes a complete rejection of Jesus, the authority of the Church, the love of God - almost every single Catholic doctrine about the divine. It most certianly is a mortal sin, if the other two conditions for a mortal sin are met.

Other grave sins are illegal, such as murder, rape, theft, etc. Atheism, which is just as bad (if not even worse) than those sins, ought to be illegal too. Also, it would be a deterrant to conversion to atheism and most likely result in significantly fewer atheists.

So, why shouldn't atheism be illegal? Where is my logic wrong?

How about evidence for God?

Is there any evidence at all for any kind of God?

Is there any evidence that Christian God is any more lily than Zeus?

As far as I see it, the bible was just made up and Jesus was a real person, but not the son of God. I would say he was a Judean rebel against Rome and he needed a way to get more followers so he said he was the son of God.

That or he just wanted to get with Mary Magdalene


I read a book that was like your idea of Jesus being a Judean rebel who needed followers, like Ancient Che
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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:48 am

UBS wrote:
The Kokyuna Clan wrote:
Well, the Big Bang is a theory as of now.

It's pretty much what we're using until further evidence is discovered.

Ask like any damn astrophysicist and they'll tell you that until they find further evidence for something else, they'll use the Big Bang THEORY.

Though, they have been finding evidence of the Big Bang across the cosmos, but it is not as verifiable as say, evolution's evidence.

So your putting FAITH in the big bang theory,BRILLIANT.i'm fine with you not believeing in god,just don't be pretentious

Nope, he's accepting it as the currently best scientific theory to explain certain observations.
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Postby SuperFruitland » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:48 am

Orangeinton wrote:
Skinia wrote:I will show you God. There He is. Now all you need to do is call him a faggot. I'm sure that will be enough to doom this universe.
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Do you have morales?


Everyone has morals.

Nobody is to say morals come from God.

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Postby Eastern Equestria » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:48 am

Orangeinton wrote:
SuperFruitLand wrote:
The Big Bang.

All I need to say.

You don't have evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that God does exist, whilst you have the burden of proof.

Good luck, with that.

The big bang theory is absurd. What caused the Big Bang?


God obviously, because instead of trying to find the answers to these questions, let's just say "fuck it" and attribute everything to our personal deity.

Orangeinton wrote:There is logical evidence of a creator, it's just a matter if your willing to acknowledge it.


If you consider appeals to ignorance as sound logic, then you could certainly say that.
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:48 am

Atheistic Buddhism has been working just fine for me, thanks. I'll not be converting to Christianity. Been there, read the book, wasn't impressed.
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Postby Liriena » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:48 am

Sahrani South wrote:This question is like asking which Lord of the rings book came out before the first one lol

The Hobbit, duh.
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Postby IisraelL » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:48 am

Sahrani South wrote:
Alexzanabbgggggg wrote:
what caused God?


This question is like asking which Lord of the rings book came out before the first one lol

Then why can't the world be "the first one", I mean the line of "creators" must stop somewhere right? Therefore why shouldn't we just assume this world wasn't created by an intelligent design.
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Postby UBS » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:49 am

IisraelL wrote:
UBS wrote:1:SOME OF HITLERS ORIGINAL SPEECHES ADDRESSING ZIONISTS
2:Newspaper articles written by zionists mentioning a holocaust that had not even happened yet,hell ww2 had not even started!
3:we believe in the SEGREGATION of races,not EXTERMANATION,hell there are not even any documents found in Nazi germany even talking about a holocaust,what it talks about is rounding up people because they had LICE,which back then carried horrible disease (sorry if i have bad grammar)

1. A propaganda speech of one of the worst human beings that ever existed- not a source.
2. Ah, I see. You're a holocaust denier... Not worth my time.
3. We don't care about your beliefs.

Why the hell would you choose to be a hating person? I just don't get why people hate others they never met like that...

1:History is written by the victors,so since he lost,he does not deserve even a thought,lets all follow delano and stalin,woo hoo.
2:have fun with your holohoax
3: :clap: Bloody brilliant

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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:49 am

Alexzanabbgggggg wrote:
Orangeinton wrote:The big bang theory is absurd. What caused the Big Bang?


what caused God?


According to the Egyptians, Atum-Ra willed himself into existence.
Then he willed himself a place to stand.
And then he masturbated to create life and water. The method of masturbation was hotly debated.

The Egyptians were pretty good at answering these questions, contrary to e.g. christianity.
Then again, they had several millennia more to think up answers.
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Postby Alexzanabbgggggg » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:49 am

IisraelL wrote:
UBS wrote:1:SOME OF HITLERS ORIGINAL SPEECHES ADDRESSING ZIONISTS
2:Newspaper articles written by zionists mentioning a holocaust that had not even happened yet,hell ww2 had not even started!
3:we believe in the SEGREGATION of races,not EXTERMANATION,hell there are not even any documents found in Nazi germany even talking about a holocaust,what it talks about is rounding up people because they had LICE,which back then carried horrible disease (sorry if i have bad grammar)

1. A propaganda speech of one of the worst human beings that ever existed- not a source.
2. Ah, I see. You're a holocaust denier... Not worth my time.
3. We don't care about your beliefs.

Why the hell would you choose to be a hating person? I just don't get why people hate others they never met like that...


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Postby The Kokyuna Clan » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:49 am

UBS wrote:So your putting FAITH in the big bang theory,BRILLIANT.i'm fine with you not believeing in god,just don't be pretentious


You idiot. You completely missed the point.

We don't have faith in the Big Bang Theory, we just use it as a current explanation of the universe until further evidence is found of something else or concrete evidence of the Big Bang is found. There's no faith involved.

Fuck, I barely even believe in the Big Bang Theory myself, but I stil use it as an explanation for the current galaxy as there is no evidence pointing to anything else.

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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:49 am

Orangeinton wrote:
Skinia wrote:I will show you God. There He is. Now all you need to do is call him a faggot. I'm sure that will be enough to doom this universe.
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Everyone has morals. Morals are a product of evolution. What morals you have, though, also involve your environment/culture.
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Postby SuperFruitland » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:49 am

Well I need to leave now, but I just have one last piece of evidence.

Christians? YOU HAVE THE BURDEN OF PROOF. You're the one saying that God exists, when there is little to no evidence to say that He does. We (atheists) don't have to prove God doesn't exist.

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Postby Nord Amour » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:50 am

Welcome to the real world, where people have differing opinions and where there are more sources of information than a book of 2,000 year old desert mythologies!

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