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Who do you want to win?

President Barack Obama
423
42%
Governor Mitt Romney
180
18%
A third party candidate
185
18%
Who cares and/or I ain't American
75
7%
It doesn't matter as the Mods are gonna launch their coup any time now and I for one welcome our Modly overlords
146
14%
 
Total votes : 1009

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:45 pm

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The Emerald Dawn wrote:Oh man, Willard almost has more votes than the third party candidate.

I am disappointed that most of you are NOT bowing to your Modly overlords.

Changes will have to be made. Oh yes, changes WILL have to be made.

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Postby TaQud » Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:46 pm

Thafoo wrote:I really wish I could vote for Jill Stein, but voting for a third party candidate is like throwing your vote away, considering they hardly muster electoral votes. Especially in a state that tried to kick Obama off the ballot. Kansas is crazy.

At least Kansas Has (or had) Dole. Could've been the only president from Kansas
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:47 pm

Thafoo wrote:I really wish I could vote for Jill Stein, but voting for a third party candidate is like throwing your vote away, considering they hardly muster electoral votes. Especially in a state that tried to kick Obama off the ballot. Kansas is crazy.

Support Green candidates for the state legislature, for the city council. Start low and build up. The Greens should refuse to run for the presidency and announce that they're really going to make politics local by building a grassroots movement. That way they won't siphon votes from the Democrats, who are arguably more likely to support the Green's positions on the issues than the Republicans.
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Postby Tubbsalot » Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:48 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Typhlochactas wrote:I didn't mean 'nobody cares' in the sense that only a minority of people care about the popular vote. I meant it in the sense that the popular vote is not a measure of who wins the Presidency.

It usually is, though. We've only had three elections where the popular vote didn't indicate the ultimate winner. That's not a bad track record.

Right, and in absolutely every election so far, the electoral college vote has indicated the ultimate winner, because the Presidency is directly based on the electoral college vote distribution, not the popular vote distribution.
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Postby Revolutopia » Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:55 pm

TaQud wrote:
Thafoo wrote:I really wish I could vote for Jill Stein, but voting for a third party candidate is like throwing your vote away, considering they hardly muster electoral votes. Especially in a state that tried to kick Obama off the ballot. Kansas is crazy.

At least Kansas Has (or had) Dole. Could've been the only president from Kansas


You also had Alf Landon, who ran for the Republicans in 1936. According to polling done by The Literary Digest he was destined to win a landslide victory with around 370 votes.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:00 pm

Revolutopia wrote:
TaQud wrote:At least Kansas Has (or had) Dole. Could've been the only president from Kansas


You also had Alf Landon, who ran for the Republicans in 1936. According to polling done by The Literary Digest he was destined to win a landslide victory with around 370 votes.

Yeah, that was the election that gave us the quip, "As goes Maine, so goes Vermont."
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Postby Death Metal » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:12 pm

Thafoo wrote:I really wish I could vote for Jill Stein, but voting for a third party candidate is like throwing your vote away, considering they hardly muster electoral votes. Especially in a state that tried to kick Obama off the ballot. Kansas is crazy.


See, I'd consider Stein if not for

A) She has less chance of winning the presidency than I have a chance of being Sex Machine of The Year.

B) Obama fits my values more than Stein does anyway.
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Postby Desperate Measures » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:16 pm

Death Metal wrote:
Thafoo wrote:I really wish I could vote for Jill Stein, but voting for a third party candidate is like throwing your vote away, considering they hardly muster electoral votes. Especially in a state that tried to kick Obama off the ballot. Kansas is crazy.


See, I'd consider Stein if not for

A) She has less chance of winning the presidency than I have a chance of being Sex Machine of The Year.

B) Obama fits my values more than Stein does anyway.

I took an online quiz which told me I should vote for Jill Stein. I really want to vote for Obama, though. But it was an online quiz! My voter hand is shaky...
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Postby Freedom of United Trevor » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:19 pm

Romney-Ryan 2012:

1. Energy Independence and who cares about the environment.

2. Obama can't show us Benghazi or Bin Laden.

3. Obama tells you what to eat.

4. No third party candidates allowed

5.Taxes and anything we discuss this year is nonsense,we need a new beginning

Under the Romney era:

More Workers by 2020

More Woman for mitt and finally,

Better education,no school budget cuts and no child left behind.

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Postby Individuality-ness » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:20 pm

Freedom of United Trevor wrote:Romney-Ryan 2012:

1. Energy Independence and who cares about the environment.

2. Obama can't show us Benghazi or Bin Laden.

3. Obama tells you what to eat.

4. No third party candidates allowed

5.Taxes and anything we discuss this year is nonsense,we need a new beginning

Under the Romney era:

More Workers by 2020

More Woman for mitt and finally,

Better education,no school budget cuts and no child left behind.

[source]?
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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:21 pm

Freedom of United Trevor wrote:Romney-Ryan 2012:

1. Energy Independence and who cares about the environment.

2. Obama can't show us Benghazi or Bin Laden.

3. Obama tells you what to eat.

4. No third party candidates allowed

5.Taxes and anything we discuss this year is nonsense,we need a new beginning

Under the Romney era:

More Workers by 2020

More Woman for mitt and finally,

Better education,no school budget cuts and no child left behind.

Mitt, go to bed, you're drunk.
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Postby Freedom of United Trevor » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:21 pm

The list why to vote for Romney is my source.

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:21 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Freedom of United Trevor wrote:Romney-Ryan 2012:

1. Energy Independence and who cares about the environment.

2. Obama can't show us Benghazi or Bin Laden.

3. Obama tells you what to eat.

4. No third party candidates allowed

5.Taxes and anything we discuss this year is nonsense,we need a new beginning

Under the Romney era:

More Workers by 2020

More Woman for mitt and finally,

Better education,no school budget cuts and no child left behind.

[source]?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectum
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Postby Individuality-ness » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:21 pm

Freedom of United Trevor wrote:The list why to vote for Romney is my source.

Invalid source, try again.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:22 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:[source]?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectum

:bow: Touche. :lol2:
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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:22 pm

Freedom of United Trevor wrote:The list why to vote for Romney is my source.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
OH GOD
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA
That is so cute!
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Postby Desperate Measures » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:23 pm

Freedom of United Trevor wrote:Romney-Ryan 2012:

1. Energy Independence and who cares about the environment.

2. Obama can't show us Benghazi or Bin Laden.

3. Obama tells you what to eat.

4. No third party candidates allowed

5.Taxes and anything we discuss this year is nonsense,we need a new beginning

Under the Romney era:

More Workers by 2020

More Woman for mitt and finally,

Better education,no school budget cuts and no child left behind.

I do not care if Mitt Romney needs more woman. Why would I care about that? Doesn't he have enough woman?
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Postby Freedom of United Trevor » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:24 pm

What does a Rectum have to do with it.

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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:25 pm

Freedom of United Trevor wrote:What does a Rectum have to do with it.

The implication being that you are pulling all of your UTTERLY unprovable and mostly objectively incorrect assertions from that particular orifice.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:25 pm

Desperate Measures wrote:
Freedom of United Trevor wrote:Romney-Ryan 2012:

1. Energy Independence and who cares about the environment.

2. Obama can't show us Benghazi or Bin Laden.

3. Obama tells you what to eat.

4. No third party candidates allowed

5.Taxes and anything we discuss this year is nonsense,we need a new beginning

Under the Romney era:

More Workers by 2020

More Woman for mitt and finally,

Better education,no school budget cuts and no child left behind.

I do not care if Mitt Romney needs more woman. Why would I care about that? Doesn't he have enough woman?

In those binders of his? Fuck no! He's Mormon, right? :P
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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:28 pm

Freedom of United Trevor wrote:Romney-Ryan 2012:

1. Energy Independence and who cares about the environment.

2. Obama can't show us Benghazi or Bin Laden.

3. Obama tells you what to eat.

4. No third party candidates allowed

5.Taxes and anything we discuss this year is nonsense,we need a new beginning

Under the Romney era:

More Workers by 2020

More Woman for mitt and finally,

Better education,no school budget cuts and no child left behind.



God you're so cute!

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Postby Desperate Measures » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:28 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:I do not care if Mitt Romney needs more woman. Why would I care about that? Doesn't he have enough woman?

In those binders of his? Fuck no! He's Mormon, right? :P

He doesn't really care if he wins, does he? This is just to fill up his binders so that he may choose more wives, isn't it? His entire campaign wasn't for the presidency!! It was just the most expensive classified ad ever!

I'm fucking holding on to this conspiracy theory.
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“Man has such a predilection for systems and abstract deductions that he is ready to distort the truth intentionally, he is ready to deny the evidence of his senses only to justify his logic”
- Fyodor Dostoyevsky Russian Novelist and Writer, 1821-1881
"All Clock Faces Are Wrong." - Gene Ray, Prophet(?) http://www.timecube.com
A simplified maxim on the subject states "An atheist would say, 'I don't believe God exists'; an agnostic would say, 'I don't know whether or not God exists'; and an ignostic would say, 'I don't know what you mean when you say, "God exists" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignosticism

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Postby Individuality-ness » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:29 pm

Desperate Measures wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:In those binders of his? Fuck no! He's Mormon, right? :P

He doesn't really care if he wins, does he? This is just to fill up his binders so that he may choose more wives, isn't it? His entire campaign wasn't for the presidency!! It was just the most expensive classified ad ever!

I'm fucking holding on to this conspiracy theory.

:lol2: He sure isn't getting this one! :P
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Postby Desperate Measures » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:31 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:He doesn't really care if he wins, does he? This is just to fill up his binders so that he may choose more wives, isn't it? His entire campaign wasn't for the presidency!! It was just the most expensive classified ad ever!

I'm fucking holding on to this conspiracy theory.

:lol2: He sure isn't getting this one! :P

:lol:
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- Vladimir Nabokov US (1899 - 1977)
Also, me.
“Man has such a predilection for systems and abstract deductions that he is ready to distort the truth intentionally, he is ready to deny the evidence of his senses only to justify his logic”
- Fyodor Dostoyevsky Russian Novelist and Writer, 1821-1881
"All Clock Faces Are Wrong." - Gene Ray, Prophet(?) http://www.timecube.com
A simplified maxim on the subject states "An atheist would say, 'I don't believe God exists'; an agnostic would say, 'I don't know whether or not God exists'; and an ignostic would say, 'I don't know what you mean when you say, "God exists" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignosticism

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Postby Deus Est Machina » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:31 pm

Typhlochactas wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:It usually is, though. We've only had three elections where the popular vote didn't indicate the ultimate winner. That's not a bad track record.


Ok sure, but I was trying to get the Canadian user to know that the popular vote shouldn't be enough to get you nervous about the future of Canada.

Heh, yeah, I know that the popular vote means nothing. I said this several times.
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