What Would It Take for You to Vote for Biden?

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Man how things can change. I went from needing a gun to my head to vote for Biden to Trump putting the gun of "herd immunity" to my head and forcing me to vote for Biden.

[Kowani]

...what?

It was a George Bush joke, one of the few presidents we habitually refer to with or by their middle name.

I mean, sure? But a quick glance through FR’s posts shows they’ve never called him that.

[Sundiata]

I find most American politicians underwhelming because of the financial interests they are often beholden to. I don't have any expectations for that to significantly change on the Republican and Democrat sides.

[Dogmeat]

I used the word POSSIBLE. Even if Obama is a Christian, he is definitely pro-Muslim.

No, he's a Christian.

I am including other sources that you might find better:

Is Obama Muslim or Christian? – A fact-based answer

https://www.jpost.com/Blogs/Intellectua ... wer-416619

A goddamn blog with ignorant takes from the author:

Obviously, he is formally a Muslim since his father was a Muslim. In order to stop being a Muslim, Obama had to convert officially to a different religion. However, there is no information on his conversion to Christianity.

Opinion duly discarded. Obama has described how he came to be a Christian.[1]

Barack Obama’s Support for the Muslim Brotherhood

https://circanada.com/2019/02/08/barack ... otherhood/

One of the sources the article used is Frank J. Gaffney, an anti-Muslim conspiracy theorist. Opinion discarded. [2]

PART 1 - THE EVIDENCE: Yes, Obama is a Secret Muslim

https://www.catholic.org/news/politics/ ... p?id=65915

"Obama attended a Muslim school" and "Obama's father and grandfather were Muslim", therefore "he's a Muslim". Opinion discarded. See [1] and [3].

Goodbye, Barack Hussein Obama: America's first 'Muslim president'

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -president

Nearly a third of Americans thought he was one of us. So why not claim it?

This is goddamn sarcasm. I thought you would be smarter at interpreting newspaper articles.

[1]: Eight Years of Trolling Obama https://www.factcheck.org/2017/01/eight ... ing-obama/

[2]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Gaffney

[3]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_ ... y_theories

[4]: https://www.politifact.com/article/2010 ... ma-muslim/

Well done.

It won't stop Freiheit from posting exactly the same nonsense again, as though he weren't aware that he is factually wrong. But it's always good for everyone else to see.

[Albrenia]

Wait, some people still think Obama's a Muslim?

[Telconi]

It was a George Bush joke, one of the few presidents we habitually refer to with or by their middle name.

I mean, sure? But a quick glance through FR’s posts shows they’ve never called him that.

Yes, hence why it was a joke, and not some sort of argumentative point.

[Kowani]

I mean, sure? But a quick glance through FR’s posts shows they’ve never called him that.

Yes, hence why it was a joke, and not some sort of argumentative point.

Ah, fair enough.

[Glorious Hong Kong]

Is this the de facto Biden megathread now?

Anyway, it looks like Twitter has stopped blocking that NYP article about Hunter Biden from being shared. I just checked.

[Glorious Hong Kong]

Kamala Harris: We will restore aid to Palestinians, renew ties

You mean these Palestinians?

Palestinian U. gate named after planner of Munich Olympics massacre
"We are proud of the distinguished leaders whose bodies are no more, but whose spirit remains among us.”
By SARAH CHEMLA NOVEMBER 8, 2020 16:29
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Palestinian students walk past a Fatah poster at the Palestine Polytechnic University in Hebron (photo credit: REUTERS)
Palestinian students walk past a Fatah poster at the Palestine Polytechnic University in Hebron
(photo credit: REUTERS)
The Student Union Council at Palestine Polytechnic University recently gifted the school with a gate named after Salah Khalaf, known as “Abu Iyad” – the terrorist who was the Black September terror organization leader and who planned the Munich Olympics massacre, in which 11 Israeli athletes were murdered in 1972.
Palestinian Media Watch (PMW) reported that the university's Student Union Council chairman Saif Al-Muhtasib declared during the inauguration of the gate that “we have built this structure to commemorate the name of late Martyr Salah Khalaf ‘Abu Iyad.’ We are proud of the distinguished leaders whose bodies are no more, but whose spirit remains among us.”
On the gate of the university, reported PMW, are images of Khalaf and former PA chairman Yasser Arafat, under which is written in Arabic: “The fortress of Martyr Saleh Khalaf ‘Abu Iyad.’”
"To the left of the text," explained PMW, "is the logo of the Palestine Polytechnic University Student Union Council, which includes the PA map of “Palestine” that includes all of Israel in the colors of the Palestinian flag, indicating Palestinian sovereignty over the entire area."
"To the right is the logo of Palestine Polytechnic University’s Al-Aqsa Martyrs student group that is affiliated with Fatah," continued PMW. "This logo also includes the Palestinian Authority map of “Palestine,” as well as a raised fist at the top of the map."
"It is no surprise that the students at the Polytechnic admire terrorist Salah Khalaf," stated Palestinian Media Watch, "as the PA reveres the terrorists behind the Munich Olympics terror attack, and has named a school, and also a sport center, after Salah Khalaf."

The kinds of people who routinely idolize terrorists and believe Israel has no right to exist in any way, shape, or form? The kinds of people who have inflicted decades of mindless, terroristic violence, gaslighting, and broken promises on the people of Israel simply for the “crime” of existing and defending themselves, while they selfishly demand international respect, recognition, and sympathy without giving anything at all in return?

The kinds of people who mostly share the same faith, and therefore the same kinds of theocratic prejudices and impulses, as those who would behead a French schoolteacher for displaying cartoons of their beloved prophet in a middle school lesson about freedom of expression? The kinds of people who would take to the streets to protest the fact that a world leader dared defy their god and their prophet in response to terror attacks and beheadings committed in their religion's name while totally failing to condemn the murders and beheadings themselves?

You want to restore aid to these people? Really?

Donald Trump did literally everything right when it came to the Arab-Israeli conflict. I'd like to see Biden-Harris broker not one, not two, but three peace deals between Israel and the Arab world in a matter of months with even more countries waiting in the wings. I'd like to see Biden-Harris recognize the entirety of Jerusalem as Israel's capital and move the U.S. embassy there as Trump has done. No U.S. president has championed Zionism better than Donald J. Trump. His no-nonsense approach has worked miracles and made history.

Joe Biden has described Netanyahu as having moved "so, so far to the right". The President-elect's stated policy of failed, Obama-era appeasement would be a huge setback for peace in the Middle East were it to be realized. Tepid appeasement of Muslim theocrats who believe that the whole of historic Palestine (along with the rest of the world) belongs to Allah and Allah alone, and appeasement of genocidal antisemites and terrorists in the Middle East.

One problem: One of your sources is Conservapedia, which is basically Wikipedia but heavily biased towards conservatives. Yep, totally neutral.

Obama is not a Muslim. Stop floating baseless conspiracy theories, like the racist Birther movement.

To say Conservapedia is heavily biased towards conservatives is the understatement of the century. It is so unbelievably ridiculous that people who stumble across it must think it's a parody written by leftists to mock conservatives, but it's not funny because they went too far.

Boomerpedia

[Freiheit Reich]

Kamala Harris: We will restore aid to Palestinians, renew ties

You mean these Palestinians?

Palestinian U. gate named after planner of Munich Olympics massacre
"We are proud of the distinguished leaders whose bodies are no more, but whose spirit remains among us.”
By SARAH CHEMLA NOVEMBER 8, 2020 16:29
Email Twitter Facebook fb-messenger
Palestinian students walk past a Fatah poster at the Palestine Polytechnic University in Hebron (photo credit: REUTERS)
Palestinian students walk past a Fatah poster at the Palestine Polytechnic University in Hebron
(photo credit: REUTERS)
The Student Union Council at Palestine Polytechnic University recently gifted the school with a gate named after Salah Khalaf, known as “Abu Iyad” – the terrorist who was the Black September terror organization leader and who planned the Munich Olympics massacre, in which 11 Israeli athletes were murdered in 1972.
Palestinian Media Watch (PMW) reported that the university's Student Union Council chairman Saif Al-Muhtasib declared during the inauguration of the gate that “we have built this structure to commemorate the name of late Martyr Salah Khalaf ‘Abu Iyad.’ We are proud of the distinguished leaders whose bodies are no more, but whose spirit remains among us.”
On the gate of the university, reported PMW, are images of Khalaf and former PA chairman Yasser Arafat, under which is written in Arabic: “The fortress of Martyr Saleh Khalaf ‘Abu Iyad.’”
"To the left of the text," explained PMW, "is the logo of the Palestine Polytechnic University Student Union Council, which includes the PA map of “Palestine” that includes all of Israel in the colors of the Palestinian flag, indicating Palestinian sovereignty over the entire area."
"To the right is the logo of Palestine Polytechnic University’s Al-Aqsa Martyrs student group that is affiliated with Fatah," continued PMW. "This logo also includes the Palestinian Authority map of “Palestine,” as well as a raised fist at the top of the map."
"It is no surprise that the students at the Polytechnic admire terrorist Salah Khalaf," stated Palestinian Media Watch, "as the PA reveres the terrorists behind the Munich Olympics terror attack, and has named a school, and also a sport center, after Salah Khalaf."

The kinds of people who routinely idolize terrorists and believe Israel has no right to exist in any way, shape, or form? The kinds of people who have inflicted decades of mindless, terroristic violence, gaslighting, and broken promises on the people of Israel simply for the “crime” of existing and defending themselves, while they selfishly demand international respect, recognition, and sympathy without giving anything at all in return?

The kinds of people who mostly share the same faith, and therefore the same kinds of theocratic prejudices and impulses, as those who would behead a French schoolteacher for displaying cartoons of their beloved prophet in a middle school lesson about freedom of expression? The kinds of people who would take to the streets to protest the fact that a world leader dared defy their god and their prophet in response to terror attacks and beheadings committed in their religion's name while totally failing to condemn the murders and beheadings themselves?

You want to restore aid to these people? Really?

Donald Trump did literally everything right when it came to the Arab-Israeli conflict. I'd like to see Biden-Harris broker not one, not two, but three peace deals between Israel and the Arab world in a matter of months with even more countries waiting in the wings. I'd like to see Biden-Harris recognize the entirety of Jerusalem as Israel's capital and move the U.S. embassy there as Trump has done. No U.S. president has championed Zionism better than Donald J. Trump. His no-nonsense approach has worked miracles and made history.

Joe Biden has described Netanyahu as having moved "so, so far to the right". The President-elect's stated policy of failed, Obama-era appeasement would be a huge setback for peace in the Middle East were it to be realized. Tepid appeasement of Muslim theocrats who believe that the whole of historic Palestine (along with the rest of the world) belongs to Allah and Allah alone, and appeasement of genocidal antisemites and terrorists in the Middle East.

To say Conservapedia is heavily biased towards conservatives is the understatement of the century. It is so unbelievably ridiculous that people who stumble across it must think it's a parody written by leftists to mock conservatives, but it's not funny because they went too far.

Boomerpedia

I am not a boomer; I am ashamed to state that I am a millennial.

Boomers are not all evil. They are older but one day we will also be older. I hate when younger people say 'OK Boomer' which is disrespectful. Not all Boomers are Trump fans, this is also a silly stereotype. My mother is a boomer and she hates Trump.

Conservapedia has links to their sources. The article I sent has many quotes from Obama's own book. Are you stating that he didn't make any of the quotes listed in conservapedia's sources? Also, I stated reasons that Obama MIGHT be a Muslim. I never insisted he was a Muslim.

However, it is clear that Biden and Obama both favor Palestine. It is sad anybody could support Palestine over Israel. Trump's support of Israel is one of his positive points and I am glad he did the right thing in moving the US embassy after so many years. Biden's win is bad for Israel.

A Biden Presidency Could Be Bad for Israel

https://www.algemeiner.com/2020/03/26/a ... or-israel/

[Picairn]

Conservapedia has links to their sources. The article I sent has many quotes from Obama's own book. Are you stating that he didn't make any of the quotes listed in conservapedia's sources? Also, I stated reasons that Obama MIGHT be a Muslim. I never insisted he was a Muslim.

No, Conservapedia is not a valid source. It's like that Stalinist who used Grover Furr to deny the Holodomor. That page has peddled conspiracy theories repeatedly and is rife with misinformation that goes against established science. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservapedia

Obama is NOT a Muslim. Stop peddling conspiracy theories and pretend that they are facts.

[Outer Sparta]

Conservapedia has links to their sources. The article I sent has many quotes from Obama's own book. Are you stating that he didn't make any of the quotes listed in conservapedia's sources? Also, I stated reasons that Obama MIGHT be a Muslim. I never insisted he was a Muslim.

No, Conservapedia is not a valid source. It's like that Stalinist who used Grover Furr to deny the Holodomor. That page has peddled conspiracy theories repeatedly and is rife with misinformation that goes against established science. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservapedia

Obama is NOT a Muslim. Stop peddling conspiracy theories and pretend that they are facts.

Conservapedia has a page called "Worst Liberal Movies" and includes Star Wars, Godzilla, The Hunger Games, and The Breakfast Club among them. Yep, those are the kinds of pages Conservapedia has.

[Elwher]

Conservapedia has links to their sources. The article I sent has many quotes from Obama's own book. Are you stating that he didn't make any of the quotes listed in conservapedia's sources? Also, I stated reasons that Obama MIGHT be a Muslim. I never insisted he was a Muslim.

No, Conservapedia is not a valid source. It's like that Stalinist who used Grover Furr to deny the Holodomor. That page has peddled conspiracy theories repeatedly and is rife with misinformation that goes against established science. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservapedia

Obama is NOT a Muslim. Stop peddling conspiracy theories and pretend that they are facts.

None of the wikis are valid sources. At best, they can provide links to valid sources, but on their own? NO WAY!

[Washington Resistance Army]

No, Conservapedia is not a valid source. It's like that Stalinist who used Grover Furr to deny the Holodomor. That page has peddled conspiracy theories repeatedly and is rife with misinformation that goes against established science. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservapedia

Obama is NOT a Muslim. Stop peddling conspiracy theories and pretend that they are facts.

Conservapedia has a page called "Worst Liberal Movies" and includes Star Wars, Godzilla, The Hunger Games, and The Breakfast Club among them. Yep, those are the kinds of pages Conservapedia has.

>Godzilla
>Worst Liberal Movies
>Worst
>Movies

I will fucking car bomb the author. Godzilla is sacred.

[Elwher]

Conservapedia has a page called "Worst Liberal Movies" and includes Star Wars, Godzilla, The Hunger Games, and The Breakfast Club among them. Yep, those are the kinds of pages Conservapedia has.

>Godzilla
>Worst Liberal Movies
>Worst
>Movies

I will fucking car bomb the author. Godzilla is sacred.

The original? Most assuredly. Any of the Western remakes? Only sacred to Satan worshippers.

[Picairn]

Conservapedia has a page called "Worst Liberal Movies" and includes Star Wars, Godzilla, The Hunger Games, and The Breakfast Club among them. Yep, those are the kinds of pages Conservapedia has.

They even tell people how conversion therapy is good and atheism has connections to communism lmao. What a joke.

[The Alma Mater]

Conservapedia has a page called "Worst Liberal Movies" and includes Star Wars, Godzilla, The Hunger Games, and The Breakfast Club among them. Yep, those are the kinds of pages Conservapedia has.

They even tell people how conversion therapy is good and atheism has connections to communism lmao. What a joke.

Well, to be fair, communism does have some links to atheism. Whole "religion is the opium of the people" thing

[The Alma Mater]

No, Conservapedia is not a valid source. It's like that Stalinist who used Grover Furr to deny the Holodomor. That page has peddled conspiracy theories repeatedly and is rife with misinformation that goes against established science. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservapedia

Obama is NOT a Muslim. Stop peddling conspiracy theories and pretend that they are facts.

Conservapedia has a page called "Worst Liberal Movies" and includes Star Wars, Godzilla, The Hunger Games, and The Breakfast Club among them. Yep, those are the kinds of pages Conservapedia has.

I had to check. And yes, of course they added the new Borat

[Picairn]

None of the wikis are valid sources. At best, they can provide links to valid sources, but on their own? NO WAY!

At least Wikipedia links (or try to) to credible news organizations, peer-reviewed research and fact-checking sites, not fucking blogs made by conspiracy theorists.

Fun fact: I read on Wikipedia that the creator of Conservapedia created that cursed wiki after he saw a student using CE (common era) instead of AD (anno domini) in an essay lmao. Dude must be those people who are concerned with the end of Western civilization just because people start using secular terms.

[Picairn]

Well, to be fair, communism does have some links to atheism. Whole "religion is the opium of the people" thing

Atheism itself doesn't, however. It literally is just people who don't believe in God. Not all atheists are communists who want to burn churches and exterminate religious people.

[Odreria]

Well, to be fair, communism does have some links to atheism. Whole "religion is the opium of the people" thing

Not all atheists are communists

Another strike against them

[Jedi Council]

Well, to be fair, communism does have some links to atheism. Whole "religion is the opium of the people" thing

Atheism itself doesn't, however. It literally is just people who don't believe in God. Not all atheists are communists who want to burn churches and exterminate religious people.

I can attest to this

[Cordel One]

Well, to be fair, communism does have some links to atheism. Whole "religion is the opium of the people" thing

Atheism itself doesn't, however. It literally is just people who don't believe in God. Not all atheists are communists who want to burn churches and exterminate religious people.

Some of us are communists who don't want to burn churches and exterminate religious people. Please don't attach our ideology to Enlightened Athiest Redditors.

[Picairn]

Some of us are communists who don't want to burn churches and exterminate religious people. Please don't attach our ideology to Enlightened Athiest Redditors.

Fucking Reddit, always ruining everything-

[Senkaku]

Atheism itself doesn't, however. It literally is just people who don't believe in God. Not all atheists are communists who want to burn churches and exterminate religious people.

Some of us are communists who don't want to burn churches and exterminate religious people. Please don't attach our ideology to Enlightened Athiest Redditors.

[Jean-Baptiste Carrier has entered the chat]