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Filthy Liberal
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22%
Iranian / Chinese / Venezuela / Cuba / Bad Country Agent
6
9%
Insane Person
28
42%
Other
18
27%
 
Total votes : 67

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Postby Kasdados » Mon Jun 08, 2026 7:49 am

Every Democrat politician vs. Every Republican politician. If the Democrats win we keep them in power forever, if the Republicans win we keep them in power forever. Simple.
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Postby Myrensis » Mon Jun 08, 2026 8:01 am

MagestikTwelve wrote:
Neu California wrote:Again, where is the evidence that this is happening? And why aren't you taking it to a court of law if it is happening?

Never mind that all the suits filed in the aftermath of the 2020 election except one found either a lack of evidence or a lack of standing. (That one, Mark Jefferson v. Dane County, Wisconsin, barely affected anything)


Photo voter ID is still going through the house I think with the Save America Act. Evidence in this regard is difficult due to the political nature of the crime. The threat exists clearly regarding how lax democrats are with border control so for that reason I think more security around elections is fine.


"No, there's no actual evidence of a problem, but the fact that my party doesn't win every election is proof that there's a threat and why we need to SeCuRe oUr ElEcTiOnS by making it harder for anyone who doesn't typically vote for my party to vote at all."
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MagestikTwelve wrote:
Photo voter ID is still going through the house I think with the Save America Act. Evidence in this regard is difficult due to the political nature of the crime. The threat exists clearly regarding how lax democrats are with border control so for that reason I think more security around elections is fine.


The bill failed in the Senate.

It's a solution in search of a problem. In person voter fraud is a fiction and it is already illegal for non citizens to vote. To make it so only a passport is a valid as a id and to ban online registration places an undue burden on people and it is the definition of a poll tax.

Plus if Democrats are so good at rigging elections would someone kindly explain to me how Trump won or how any Republican wins?


You need to get in the right mindset: "If I were one of the dumbest motherfuckers to ever live and looked to Donald Trump as my beacon of truth and protection, what would I think?"

When Democrats win it's because they were cheating.

When Republicans win it's because the power of Jesus and Patriotism and Trumps genius was just so strong it overwhelmed the Democrat cheating!
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Rusozak
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Postby Rusozak » Mon Jun 08, 2026 8:56 am

Myrensis wrote:
MagestikTwelve wrote:
Photo voter ID is still going through the house I think with the Save America Act. Evidence in this regard is difficult due to the political nature of the crime. The threat exists clearly regarding how lax democrats are with border control so for that reason I think more security around elections is fine.


"No, there's no actual evidence of a problem, but the fact that my party doesn't win every election is proof that there's a threat and why we need to SeCuRe oUr ElEcTiOnS by making it harder for anyone who doesn't typically vote for my party to vote at all."


I wish MAGA would stop beating around the bush and just admit it this is just about bringing back Jim Crow.
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The Black Forrest
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jun 08, 2026 9:01 am

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Chess Socialism
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Chess Socialism » Mon Jun 08, 2026 9:04 am

Rusozak wrote:
Myrensis wrote:
"No, there's no actual evidence of a problem, but the fact that my party doesn't win every election is proof that there's a threat and why we need to SeCuRe oUr ElEcTiOnS by making it harder for anyone who doesn't typically vote for my party to vote at all."


I wish MAGA would stop beating around the bush and just admit it this is just about bringing back Jim Crow.

"We need to make illegal the things that are already illegal and if it isn't pushed through NOW to destroy our reputation when it's already damaged e-fucking-nough we'll primary John Thune!" is what I hear coming from every Republican senator's mouth now, except for John Thune and the 4 senators who voted nay.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jun 08, 2026 9:07 am

MagestikTwelve wrote:
Neu California wrote:Again, where is the evidence that this is happening? And why aren't you taking it to a court of law if it is happening?

Never mind that all the suits filed in the aftermath of the 2020 election except one found either a lack of evidence or a lack of standing. (That one, Mark Jefferson v. Dane County, Wisconsin, barely affected anything)


Photo voter ID is still going through the house I think with the Save America Act. Evidence in this regard is difficult due to the political nature of the crime. The threat exists clearly regarding how lax democrats are with border control so for that reason I think more security around elections is fine.


Claims without proof; mixed with conspiracy theory. Must be a MAGA person.

The election process is fine. That’s why you lot want to mess it up.

Even duh ebul trans supporting not white loving California does ok.

I once received 2 mail-in ballots. Used one and destroyed the other. Looked online and found one marked as used and the other was not. Guess what would have happened if both were marked as used.

Let’s hear more baseless claims and conspiracies…..
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Port Carverton
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Port Carverton » Mon Jun 08, 2026 9:09 am


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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Chess Socialism » Mon Jun 08, 2026 9:12 am

MagestikTwelve wrote:The threat exists clearly regarding how lax democrats are with border control so for that reason I think more security around elections is fine.

I missed this, but that's against the law under 18 U.S. Code § 592.

18 U.S. Code § 592 wrote:Whoever, being an officer of the Army or Navy, or other person in the civil, military, or naval service of the United States, orders, brings, keeps, or has under his authority or control any troops or armed men at any place where a general or special election is held, unless such force be necessary to repel armed enemies of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both; and be disqualified from holding any office of honor, profit, or trust under the United States.
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Rusozak
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Postby Rusozak » Mon Jun 08, 2026 9:13 am

Chess Socialism wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
I wish MAGA would stop beating around the bush and just admit it this is just about bringing back Jim Crow.

"We need to make illegal the things that are already illegal and if it isn't pushed through NOW to destroy our reputation when it's already damaged e-fucking-nough we'll primary John Thune!" is what I hear coming from every Republican senator's mouth now, except for John Thune and the 4 senators who voted nay.

If you poke them enough times you can get them to say "well they shouldn't be citizens" followed by some white nationalist dogwhistles, which is as close as we're going to get I suppose.
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The Black Forrest
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jun 08, 2026 9:14 am

Port Carverton wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
The Examiner? :D

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/ ... ht-report/

Better now?


Actually that might be worse. CBS news has fallen. Kind of a lesson on how insecure the media can be and why it should be a concern for the attempts of authoritarianism…..

Anyway; the examiner is actually pretty solid on facts. Just has a habit of making things sound bigger than they are. Still let’s see where it goes……
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Necroghastia » Mon Jun 08, 2026 12:06 pm

MagestikTwelve wrote: Democratic anti-border control policies

god i wish dems were as based as y'all make 'em out to be
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Postby GMS » Mon Jun 08, 2026 12:19 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
MagestikTwelve wrote: Democratic anti-border control policies

god i wish dems were as based as y'all make 'em out to be

We dont make the Leftist Liberal Democrat Progressives and Real Leftists Based. We dont consider them Based and we dont call them Based.
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Nonconformity » Mon Jun 08, 2026 12:25 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
MagestikTwelve wrote: Democratic anti-border control policies

god i wish dems were as based as y'all make 'em out to be

I’m sort of curious as to what an inoffensive centrist democrat party looks like.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Jun 08, 2026 12:40 pm

Nonconformity wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:god i wish dems were as based as y'all make 'em out to be

I’m sort of curious as to what an inoffensive centrist democrat party looks like.


You can see it right now. It's what they are.

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Postby Nonconformity » Mon Jun 08, 2026 12:47 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Nonconformity wrote:I’m sort of curious as to what an inoffensive centrist democrat party looks like.


You can see it right now. It's what they are.

Except that extremes do not exist in a vacuum, so explain Maga, and the Tea Party before them.
The US is too polarized today, was working up to it long before 2015, for either party to claim inoffensive centrism now.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jun 08, 2026 12:53 pm

Nonconformity wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
You can see it right now. It's what they are.

Except that extremes do not exist in a vacuum, so explain Maga, and the Tea Party before them.
The US is too polarized today, was working up to it long before 2015, for either party to claim inoffensive centrism now.

Oh, that's easy. The radical extremism that the Democrats were engaged in that motivated the backlash of the Tea Party and MAGA was electing a Black man to be president.
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Postby GMS » Mon Jun 08, 2026 1:06 pm

Nonconformity wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
You can see it right now. It's what they are.

Except that extremes do not exist in a vacuum, so explain Maga, and the Tea Party before them.
The US is too polarized today, was working up to it long before 2015, for either party to claim inoffensive centrism now.

The Leftist Liberal Democrat Progressives and Real Leftist are extreme too President Trump, me and us Republicans, Make America Great Again MAGAs.
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Postby Nonconformity » Mon Jun 08, 2026 1:08 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Nonconformity wrote:Except that extremes do not exist in a vacuum, so explain Maga, and the Tea Party before them.
The US is too polarized today, was working up to it long before 2015, for either party to claim inoffensive centrism now.

Oh, that's easy. The radical extremism that the Democrats were engaged in that motivated the backlash of the Tea Party and MAGA was electing a Black man to be president.

You really need to get over that identity politic hump.
Skin color and gender already have little enough to do with who you are as a person without trying to apply it to your political acumen.
There was more than enough bad policy to pick apart regardless of the policy wonk’s cosmetic features.
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Postby Rusozak » Mon Jun 08, 2026 1:09 pm

Nonconformity wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Oh, that's easy. The radical extremism that the Democrats were engaged in that motivated the backlash of the Tea Party and MAGA was electing a Black man to be president.

You really need to get over that identity politic hump.
Skin color and gender already have little enough to do with who you are as a person without trying to apply it to your political acumen.
There was more than enough bad policy to pick apart regardless of the policy wonk’s cosmetic features.


How's that concept of a plan for replacing Obamacare going?
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Postby Necroghastia » Mon Jun 08, 2026 1:10 pm

Nonconformity wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Oh, that's easy. The radical extremism that the Democrats were engaged in that motivated the backlash of the Tea Party and MAGA was electing a Black man to be president.

You really need to get over that identity politic hump.
Skin color and gender already have little enough to do with who you are as a person without trying to apply it to your political acumen.

fucking lol
fucking lmao, even
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Postby Pazill Ran » Mon Jun 08, 2026 1:21 pm

It is clear much of the right-wing animus towards Obama is racial. There was the birther conspiracy theory which falsely claimed Obama was born in Kenya, even though he was actually born in Hawaii. Not to mention the other conspiracy theories about Obama
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jun 08, 2026 1:21 pm

Nonconformity wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Oh, that's easy. The radical extremism that the Democrats were engaged in that motivated the backlash of the Tea Party and MAGA was electing a Black man to be president.

You really need to get over that identity politic hump.
Skin color and gender already have little enough to do with who you are as a person without trying to apply it to your political acumen.
There was more than enough bad policy to pick apart regardless of the policy wonk’s cosmetic features.

No, it was racism. They tried to avoid saying so directly, but it was pretty obvious. All the stuff about Obama being a secret Kenyan Muslim, not exactly subtle. And of course that's what got Trump riled up enough to make a presidential run himself. Obama made fun of him for believing the birther conspiracies.

Did you seriously not know this? People weren't going off about death panels and socialist healthcare based on policy, because Obamacare was fundamentally a Republican policy. Mitt Romney implemented it when he was governor. And they sure weren't mad about Obama blowing up Muslim civilians in drone strikes, they love that shit too much to even pretend to be mad when a Democrat does it. And Obama deported a fuck-load of people. They hated Obama for being Black.
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Postby Grenartia » Mon Jun 08, 2026 1:24 pm

Pazill Ran wrote:It is clear much of the right-wing animus towards Obama is racial. There was the birther conspiracy theory which falsely claimed Obama was born in Kenya, even though he was actually born in Hawaii. Not to mention the other conspiracy theories about Obama


As an ex-conservative, I personally saw it as a kid. The private school I went to was hella racist, and the year Obama was elected, I learned a lot of new racial slurs. To say nothing of the 'jokes', at least 2/3rds of which expressed desire (or at least, indifference to) his hypothetical assassination.
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Postby DutchFormosa » Mon Jun 08, 2026 1:28 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Pazill Ran wrote:It is clear much of the right-wing animus towards Obama is racial. There was the birther conspiracy theory which falsely claimed Obama was born in Kenya, even though he was actually born in Hawaii. Not to mention the other conspiracy theories about Obama


As an ex-conservative, I personally saw it as a kid. The private school I went to was hella racist, and the year Obama was elected, I learned a lot of new racial slurs. To say nothing of the 'jokes', at least 2/3rds of which expressed desire (or at least, indifference to) his hypothetical assassination.

I'm just lucky I wasn't conscious enough to hear everything they said about Obama.
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Postby Rusozak » Mon Jun 08, 2026 1:42 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Nonconformity wrote:Except that extremes do not exist in a vacuum, so explain Maga, and the Tea Party before them.
The US is too polarized today, was working up to it long before 2015, for either party to claim inoffensive centrism now.

Oh, that's easy. The radical extremism that the Democrats were engaged in that motivated the backlash of the Tea Party and MAGA was electing a Black man to be president.


I saw the Republican meltdown over a Black guy in the White House unfold in real time with my grandmother. Obama really did break the racist portion of this country. And surprise surprise, that's around the time the precursors to MAGA started to take form.
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