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Postby New Hampshire Republic » Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:51 pm

The Confederal Republic wrote:Actually, I don't hate Republicans. In fact, I dislike Democrats more- however, the reason I don't support Republicans is because they are notably corrupt, and this shows in their economic policies; most of them favor large corporations which have no interest in supporting the American public (unless they can profit, of course~). Democrats are corrupt too, however seemingly much less so. I don't vote Democrat because I deem their social policies as degenerative- but that's a different story :p


What's degenerate about their social policies?
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Postby Britanno » Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:53 pm

Because the GOP is dominated by outdated social conservative homophobes that belong in the 18th century.
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Postby Laerod » Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:56 pm

Teemant wrote:
Laerod wrote:You need to stop pretending you know what you're talking about because that right there is a complete lie.


Well they should show how many people they asked because then I'd be able to find out how big margin of error can be.

I don't think you're capable of that, to be honest. Not given the complete lack of knowledge of statistics and US election demographics that you've shown here.

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Postby Pantoufle » Wed Dec 03, 2014 2:34 pm

Jawyhria wrote:Because they are a bunch of Zionist-controlled hawks with no regard for human life.

-I wrote this funny, I don't really wanna fix it. To say the least I agree with your point about Republicans not having regard for human life. However Judaism, Christianity and Islam pretty much come from the same tree.-
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Postby Pantoufle » Wed Dec 03, 2014 2:38 pm

Aelex wrote:
Hungariaa wrote:I do not hate anyone.

So your life'll be hard, little boy...

How is wanting simple peace such a hard concept? I feel that peace can be achieved with out violence, as violence would be the counter opposite of reaching a more substantial inner peace.
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Postby Laerod » Wed Dec 03, 2014 2:41 pm

Pantoufle wrote:
Jawyhria wrote:Because they are a bunch of Zionist-controlled hawks with no regard for human life.

Ehmmm Rome game Israel to the Muslims but Israel was inhabited by the Jewish people before Rome took it.

What.

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Postby San Lumen » Wed Dec 03, 2014 2:52 pm

I don't hate all Republicans. Some of my friends are. I have issue with their stances on things like abortion, campaign finance. The fact that they are doing everything they can to prevent certain groups of people from voting through voter id laws and other dirty tricks, in addition to attempting to rig the electoral college in 2016 in certain states is what really bothers me.

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Postby Pantoufle » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:04 pm

Laerod wrote:
Pantoufle wrote:Ehmmm Rome game Israel to the Muslims but Israel was inhabited by the Jewish people before Rome took it.

What.

Hmmm just re-reading that I did write that a little funny, didn't I.
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Postby Laerod » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:05 pm

Pantoufle wrote:
Laerod wrote:What.

Hmmm just re-reading that I did write that a little funny, didn't I.

A little anachronistic, to say the least.

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Postby Firsthome » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:14 pm

Well...

Maybe if they cared about people.

and they could read this saying. "Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it"

and Don't follow this one: "Money talks and shit walks"
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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:16 pm

New Hampshire Republic wrote:
The Confederal Republic wrote:Actually, I don't hate Republicans. In fact, I dislike Democrats more- however, the reason I don't support Republicans is because they are notably corrupt, and this shows in their economic policies; most of them favor large corporations which have no interest in supporting the American public (unless they can profit, of course~). Democrats are corrupt too, however seemingly much less so. I don't vote Democrat because I deem their social policies as degenerative- but that's a different story :p


What's degenerate about their social policies?

Teh gays.

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Postby Dragonia Re Xzua » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:17 pm

Because democrats have brainwashed a lot of people into believing that the republicans are evil and the democrats are the holy warrior? :blink:
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Postby Firsthome » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:18 pm

Merizoc wrote:
New Hampshire Republic wrote:
What's degenerate about their social policies?

Teh gays.


Homophobe much?
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Postby Firsthome » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:18 pm

Dragonia Re Xzua wrote:Because democrats have brainwashed a lot of people into believing that the republicans are evil and the democrats are the holy warrior? :blink:


No.

They aren't liberal enough either.
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Postby Olerand » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:22 pm

Dragonia Re Xzua wrote:Because democrats have brainwashed a lot of people into believing that the republicans are evil and the democrats are the holy warrior? :blink:

Ah yes. It's their fault people hate us. I admire the American Right's lack of ability to self-criticize, it fondly reminds me of the EU.
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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:24 pm

Firsthome wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Teh gays.


Homophobe much?

I'm the biggest homophobe out there. Just like all the other anarchists.

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Postby Cworaliya » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:53 pm

Im not a US-Citizen, so obviously I'm not as familiar with your politics than a native guy.

I can't really say that I "hate" the republicans... I hate the hardline-conservatives, christian-rightists and the market-radicalists, and the GOP has all of these people. However, I think the party will change over time, developing new ideas for the american society.

For example, many moderate republicans support low taxes, a balanced budget and more support for free trade. Overall, I think these positions are good for the US, especially deficit reduction, which is urgently needed.
I would even vote for a GOP-Candidate, if he supported the above mentioned positions, vowed to take a stronger position against foreign threats (IS), and was at least neutral on civil issues like gay marriage.

Overall, the GOP will have to make decisions in the near future. Do they want to stay a right-wing-hardliner party? Then they will most likely stay out of the White House for the coming years. If they truly want to kick the democrats out, they must first purge their party of all the people who stand in the way of progress. Only then can they represent a pragmatic, reasonable alternative to the democrats.

On a side note, I found Romney quite sympathetic in 2012. However, he was way too gaffe-prone, and was constantly under pressure from extremists to stay in party-line. I think that's what led to his crushing defeat, which suprised many people over here in europe. Many of his former voters were disappointed with Obama in 2012, so many assumed that Romney had a reasonable chance to win.

Maybe after the defeat in 2016, the GOP will finally start to think about the reasons ;)
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Postby Pantoufle » Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:58 pm

Dragonia Re Xzua wrote:Because democrats have brainwashed a lot of people into believing that the republicans are evil and the democrats are the holy warrior? :blink:

Pfft Republicans and Democrats are both sponsored by companies, literally pawns... I mean politicians are basically race car drivers except they're running a country.
The two party system isn't very good, especially in a lassiez-faire type of economy.
Also yeah that proves a lot, Obama and Romney weren't that terribly different.Image
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Postby Conservative Mericans » Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:01 pm

Republicans are the best.

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Postby Conservative Mericans » Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:02 pm

Firsthome wrote:
Dragonia Re Xzua wrote:Because democrats have brainwashed a lot of people into believing that the republicans are evil and the democrats are the holy warrior? :blink:


No.

They aren't liberal enough either.

I mean the republican is right. Economically speaking and also he is correct. Fox News all the way.
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Postby Firsthome » Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:04 pm

Pantoufle wrote:
Dragonia Re Xzua wrote:Because democrats have brainwashed a lot of people into believing that the republicans are evil and the democrats are the holy warrior? :blink:

Pfft Republicans and Democrats are both sponsored by companies, literally pawns... I mean politicians are basically race car drivers except they're running a country.
The two party system isn't very good, especially in a lassiez-faire type of economy.
Also yeah that proves a lot, Obama and Romney weren't that terribly different.Image



Like that, but Less libertarian. very much so.

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Postby Skappola » Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:11 pm

Because the media is, by and large, left-leaning on the American political scale. It's in their best interests to cater to their target market: Urban dwellers in the Northeast and West.

Fox News has cornered the Conservative Market, so it generally has the monopoly on any news not left of center. The rest of the media then caters to the left of center audience, spreading word about the Republican fringe's craziness. Fox News is by and large known as unreliable and often slightly-insane, and for good reason, so most people have no choice but to watch the more subtle biases of the major mainstream new-sources. Since they are centered in large cities and cater exclusively to the market not covered by Fox News, they're going to report more on the failures of the Republican fringe than that of the Democratic Fringe. This reflects badly on the Republicans.

This adds onto the Republicans' preexisting uphill battle of fighting for public opinion in an increasingly liberal and urban society.


Disclaimer: If you are reading this and here to tell me that the media and Democrats are right-leaning, remember that I said American Political Scale, not world political scale. American politics are much farther right than many other developed countries, so the Democrats and the media are left-leaning on our scale.
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Postby Skappola » Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:12 pm

Firsthome wrote:
Pantoufle wrote:Pfft Republicans and Democrats are both sponsored by companies, literally pawns... I mean politicians are basically race car drivers except they're running a country.
The two party system isn't very good, especially in a lassiez-faire type of economy.
Also yeah that proves a lot, Obama and Romney weren't that terribly different.Image



Like that, but Less libertarian. very much so.

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No, that's correct. You are referring to your economic views, which are represented by the Left-Right scale. The Libertarian-Authoritarian scale just measures your views on political and civil rights.
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Postby Laerod » Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:16 pm

Skappola wrote:Because the media is, by and large, left-leaning on the American political scale. It's under their best interests to cater to their target market: Urban dwellers in the Northeast and West.

Fox News has cornered the Conservative Market, so it generally has the monopoly on any news not left of center. The rest of the media then caters to the left of center audience, spreading word about the Republican fringe's craziness. Fox News is by and large known as unreliable and often slightly-insane, and for good reason, so they have no choice but to watch the more subtle biases of the major mainstream new-sources. Since they are centered in large cities and cater exclusively to the market not covered by Fox News, they're going to report more on the failures of the Republican fringe than that of the Democratic Fringe. This reflects badly on the Republicans.

This adds onto the Republicans' preexisting uphill battle of fighting for public opinion in an increasingly liberal and urban society.


Disclaimer: If you are reading this and here to tell me that the media and Republicans are right-leaning, remember that I said American Political Scale, not world political scale. American politics are much farther right than many other developed countries, so the Democrats and the media are left-leaning on our scale.

I'd contest that. Yes, even with the disclaimer. There is a natural tendency of the non-Fox media to pretend they're "neutral" and thus they run afoul of the "both sides do it" fallacy. In practice, the media is skewed towards the Republicans because of this.

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Postby Skappola » Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:20 pm

Laerod wrote:
Skappola wrote:Because the media is, by and large, left-leaning on the American political scale. It's under their best interests to cater to their target market: Urban dwellers in the Northeast and West.

Fox News has cornered the Conservative Market, so it generally has the monopoly on any news not left of center. The rest of the media then caters to the left of center audience, spreading word about the Republican fringe's craziness. Fox News is by and large known as unreliable and often slightly-insane, and for good reason, so they have no choice but to watch the more subtle biases of the major mainstream new-sources. Since they are centered in large cities and cater exclusively to the market not covered by Fox News, they're going to report more on the failures of the Republican fringe than that of the Democratic Fringe. This reflects badly on the Republicans.

This adds onto the Republicans' preexisting uphill battle of fighting for public opinion in an increasingly liberal and urban society.


Disclaimer: If you are reading this and here to tell me that the media and Republicans are right-leaning, remember that I said American Political Scale, not world political scale. American politics are much farther right than many other developed countries, so the Democrats and the media are left-leaning on our scale.

I'd contest that. Yes, even with the disclaimer. There is a natural tendency of the non-Fox media to pretend they're "neutral" and thus they run afoul of the "both sides do it" fallacy. In practice, the media is skewed towards the Republicans because of this.

But no one, except for those right of center, believe that that claim is true. Nearly every other major news source caters to those left of center, which results in the situation where Fox News is the only major right wing source while also turning centrists off to the Republicans, while the mainstream non-Fox media caters to the left and reports primarily on Republican failures rather than on Democratic failures (Though, depending on the specific spot on the political spectrum of the News Source, they will often report on the failures of Democrats, too, though often to a lesser extent). This results in a large bias against the right, unless you watch Fox News in which case there is a major bias against the Left. Most people don't watch Fox News, so the pro-left bias remains.
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