Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:21 pmin my experience, right and racist are mutually inclusive. I can't speak for everyone though.
in my experience, right and racist are mutually inclusive. I can't speak for everyone though.
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Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:21 pmin my experience, right and racist are mutually inclusive. I can't speak for everyone though.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:21 pm...not a bad take. I still think he didn't really deserve to be convicted (even if I get some very heavy "shithead" vibes from him).
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:22 pmFirst American Empire wrote:You know who else was a centrist? Thanos.
"Perfectly balanced, as all things should be." - Thanos da Supa-Centrist
Wise words from a wise man.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:22 pmLiriena wrote:New haven america wrote:>:3
The only good first post ever.
Anyway, circling back to "brocialist", because I have nothing better to do right now and I feel like being a ponderous oaf, I almost felt like equating the term with "TERF" in terms of how accurate its definition as a "slur" is... but then it came to me that that's not fair.
I'd say "brocialist" is kinda stuck in the grey area between "overused slur sometimes hurled in one form of other at anyone to the left of Clinton in bad faith" and "useful shorthand for identifying an actual problem in many left-wing circles". I don't think it's unfair to say that some left-wing circles do suffer from having a very... umm... monolithic demographic and, thus, a very limited perspective on social and cultural that feeds on economic reductionism, which in turns justifies that limited perspective. No joke, I actually got a couple not-at-all-mad DMs from one on Reddit a couple days back, and in true brocialist fashion, they combined their whining about "idpol" with ableist slurs and tinges of homophobia.
I twitch whenever I hear 'brocialist' because it gives me flashbacks to the Dem primary in 2015/16.
We were literally supporting the more radical candidate in regards to undertaking action regarding race and gender.
[screaming externally]
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:22 pmThis cuts both ways mind.
Just like "It was a just a joke" doesn't make a statement inherently harmless. ""Making light of the mass murder of millions of innocent people" doesn't make a statement harmful by itself.
It's not like a joke can't be aimed at how fucked up the murders are or how good the screams must have sounded. Or in this case it seems "Ohh i made him do a baad thing."
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:22 pmPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:22 pmAt this point in time, the salute is almost exclusively associated with the Nazis. Nice try, though.
Let me guess, all that Allied propaganda depicting Hitler and Nazis as stupid fools and bumbling idiots was making fun of Holocaust.
Because they're totally comparable.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:23 pmHi guys, I kinda wanna participate in this iteration of the LWDT.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:23 pmCrysuko wrote:I'm sorry that I have the radical idea that rightists should be silenced, joking or otherwise
If anything, it would probably be better to silence the far-left, Nazis included. :^) But in all seriousness, I do thing it would be a good idea to bring back laws against blasphemy and lèse majesté.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:23 pmThanos got a pretty raw deal but the universal genocide was a bit much
you're right. i'm convinced. There is no way to compete with such overwhealming FACTS and LOGIC.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:23 pmYusseria wrote:LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I'm sorry I have the radical idea that free speech should apply to asswipes who make stupid jokes.
FREE SPEECH BAD
run D:\own_the_libs\NPCmeme.exe
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:24 pmEl-Amin Caliphate wrote:Hi guys, I kinda wanna participate in this iteration of the LWDT.
Will you join us in our eternal revolutionary march that trembles the Earth and Heavens alike?
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:24 pmYusseria wrote:LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I'm sorry I have the radical idea that free speech should apply to asswipes who make stupid jokes.
FREE SPEECH BAD
Rather hilarious coming from the guy who calls himself a National Syndicalist (the ideological predecessors of Fascism who explicitly called for a crackdown on all forms of individualism and freedom).
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:24 pm"The right can't meme" they say as they regurgitate memes created by rightists.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:25 pmByzconia wrote:Yusseria wrote:FREE SPEECH BAD
Rather hilarious coming from the guy who calls himself a National Syndicalist (the ideological predecessors of Fascism who explicitly called for a crackdown on all forms of individualism and freedom).
This trend of adopting a meme ideology (that got utterly cucked by Fascists, mind you) that got popular again because of a mod to a video game where you stare at a map is pretty ridiculous, ngl.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:26 pmYusseria wrote:Liriena wrote:run D:\own_the_libs\NPCmeme.exe
"The right can't meme" they say as they regurgitate memes created by rightists.
This ^^
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:26 pmYusseria wrote:Liriena wrote:run D:\own_the_libs\NPCmeme.exe
"The right can't meme" they say as they regurgitate memes created by rightists.
nobody said that
anywhere
ever.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:26 pmConserative Morality wrote:Liriena wrote:
The only good first post ever.
Anyway, circling back to "brocialist", because I have nothing better to do right now and I feel like being a ponderous oaf, I almost felt like equating the term with "TERF" in terms of how accurate its definition as a "slur" is... but then it came to me that that's not fair.
I'd say "brocialist" is kinda stuck in the grey area between "overused slur sometimes hurled in one form of other at anyone to the left of Clinton in bad faith" and "useful shorthand for identifying an actual problem in many left-wing circles". I don't think it's unfair to say that some left-wing circles do suffer from having a very... umm... monolithic demographic and, thus, a very limited perspective on social and cultural that feeds on economic reductionism, which in turns justifies that limited perspective. No joke, I actually got a couple not-at-all-mad DMs from one on Reddit a couple days back, and in true brocialist fashion, they combined their whining about "idpol" with ableist slurs and tinges of homophobia.
I twitch whenever I hear 'brocialist' because it gives me flashbacks to the Dem primary in 2015/16.
We were literally supporting the more radical candidate in regards to undertaking action regarding race and gender.
[screaming externally]
Hence why I said it's in the grey area between "slur" and "useful shorthand". The "Berniebro" thing is one big example of the "brocialist" idea being used in bad faith.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:26 pmByzconia wrote:Joke's on you, I'm completely fine with censoring them, too.
Well you shouldn't be.
Byzconia wrote:Isn't that the dude who made his dog do a Nazi salute? Yeah, no, fuck that guy. "Hahaha, I'm gonna make my dog do the salute of a regime that murdered millions of people and caused one of the deadliest wars in human history! What a silly joke, I'm so funny!"
]Excuse me for not being a teenage edgelord, but I don't find the systematic murder of millions of people based on their "race" (as well as religious and political beliefs) to be particularly fucking funny.
Jokes about Nazism are a staple of western comedy since the 40s, what makes Dankula any different?
Crysuko wrote:literal nazism. he should hang for it.
A. It's not literal Nazism any more than Monty Python's Nazi sketch was.
B. Even then Nazism shouldn't be a capital crime.
Crysuko wrote:I'm sorry to be steryotypical but I have 0, absolute 0 qualms about rightists of any flavour being de-platformed, silenced and made to feel afraid.
When you want half the people in the world to be silences and afraid, you're just really... malevolent. We're all humans, nobody should be silenced or made to feel afraid, especially those who, by any sane metric, have done nothing to deserve it.'
[quote=]Maybe we should agree to move past the "It's just a meme" thing? Because it's really not "just a meme."[/quote]
Sometimes it is just a meme.
Byzconia wrote:His intent is completely irrelevant. We can't prove what he "intended," we can only prove what he did (not that I particularly give a shit what his intent was anyway).
I guess the intent of Monty Python's Hitler sketch is also irrelevant. And are you calling him a liar?
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:26 pmTorrocca wrote:Friendos pls, argue as you please but the excessive text-resizing is too much. We don't need mod action for silly shit on page two.
I'm sorry wat?
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:26 pmByzconia wrote:At this point in time, the salute is almost exclusively associated with the Nazis. Nice try, though.
Because they're totally comparable.
I knew you would raise to the bait. Mind showing how a doggo saluting is the same as making fun of genocide?
You can't just drop a fallacy and walk off, that leans incredibly close to the fallacy fallacy. How are they not comparable? Both are pieces of humour which make fun of Nazism and all its trappings, if the intent of Count Dankula and British propagandists are to believed. I don't particularly see how a little dog doing the nazi salute glorifies Nazism. It's not exactly "peak aesthetics".
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:27 pmYusseria wrote:Liriena wrote:run D:\own_the_libs\NPCmeme.exe
"The right can't meme" they say as they regurgitate memes created by rightists.
woosh
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:27 pmPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:27 pmPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:27 pmAnglo-Saxon conservatism does tend to have a large degree of implicit racism in it, but it's important to distinguish between actual racists and people who are simply uninformed about the racist connotations of certain arguments/ideas.
Uiiop wrote:Byzconia wrote:"Making light of the mass murder of millions of innocent people affects no one."
This cuts both ways mind.
Just like "It was a just a joke" doesn't make a statement inherently harmless. ""Making light of the mass murder of millions of innocent people" doesn't make a statement harmful by itself.
It's not like a joke can't be aimed at how fucked up the murders are or how good the screams must have sounded. Or in this case it seems "Ohh i made him do a baad thing."
Yes, it absolutely fucking does.