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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:26 am

Heloin wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
you know: peer pressure, wanting to be with the In crowd, behaving like horror movie drunken kids, a focus on trying to get laid...

its not hard to imagine right? Hence the insane power level of the Crowd in this scenario.

standard college behaviour for a good solid percentage, that's what it was based off

Scomagia wrote:It is bizarrely specific for a hypothetical.


Are you suggesting that I would be unwise enough to dance on a wooden plank above a mud pit?

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Postby Heloin » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:29 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
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Are you suggesting that I would be unwise enough to dance on a wooden plank above a mud pit?

Well you thought up the scenario, so apparently yes.

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Postby Victorious Decepticons » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:39 am

1. What do you say to Felicié and what do you do next? Why? Do you help or not? How do you proceed? (the question is not, how SHOULD you respond, its how WOULD you respond?) Justify your decision.

"No. Too bad. Now get to steppin'."
"Justify your decision." Because she's a raging bitch who deserves it, and I am never one to pass up vengeance. The intersection of the two = she's going home dirty. AND I'm grabbing a camera and taking pics of my own.

2. To what extent do you believe there is a duty of Forgiveness? Less than zero. The duty is to make people like that learn not to be such assholes anymore, and there's nothing like good old-fashioned payback to help get the point across (or at least to help ensure that they aren't jerks to ME again). Instant forgiveness gives these jerks the idea that it's just fine to be jerks, thereby making them get worse even faster than they ordinarily would have, and adding to the misery level of the world.

She wasn't just wanting "forgiveness," though. She wanted her ass kissed with access to the shower, help cleaning up, etc., with NO word of sympathy or apology to the protagonist! Fuck that pathological narcissist. She deserves to be pushed back into the mud, and I'd probably do the pushing given how infuriated I'd be in your scenario.
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Postby Idzequitch » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:51 am

Step 1:Get better friends who don't heckle everything.

Step 2: Reduce my pride, which seems to be overinflated in this scenario. It's mud. It comes off. No big deal.

Step 3: Resolve not to get caught up in any more of IM's unrealistic hypothetical scenarios (though this one is actually more realistic than others.)

Step 4: Help the girl. Jerk or not, I'm not going to humiliate anyone. Kill 'em with kindness.
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Postby Chan Island » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:54 am

So, my soul has suddenly possessed a Canadian frat boy and I must deal with this situation for him.

Normally I'm inclined to forgive people, but this case makes it hard. Personally, I would definitely have informed her that her behaviour in this party is not of the standard I would like already well before the pit sty incident.

1. What do you say to Felicié and what do you do next? Why? Do you help or not? How do you proceed? (the question is not, how SHOULD you respond, its how WOULD you respond?) Justify your decision.


"No, you don't get to use my showers. I told you multiple times that you were acting like a bitch and now it's time for you to leave."

2. To what extent do you believe there is a duty of Forgiveness?


I'd probably forgive her soon enough, but for the night itself there has to be a tangible show of displeasure to drive the point home. She has committed an offence against me, who hasn't caused any offence to her, so she gets what's coming (i.e.: a muddy car and embarrassing drive home).
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Postby Mzeusia » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:04 am

She can use the shower and dry herself but she has leave and she won't be welcome at any of my parties again. (or anything else for that matter)

I also won't be hanging around with any of those other people again.

I'm guessing she felt pretty foolish showing up so dressed up so there's sympathy there. Nevertheless, there was no need to do what she did.

I wouldn't be inclined to forgive her any time soon.

I like the detail this went into. It made the situation more immersive and yes, it could have still worked while being shorter but oh well.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:31 am

Ignore her. Sit in the corner and start injecting the marijuana.
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Postby Dreshand » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:43 am

Both of my responses can be described in one sentence
"Go fuck yourself"
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:50 am

The New California Republic wrote:Ignore her. Sit in the corner and start injecting the marijuana.


Taking full advantage of the British Columbian setting?

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:57 am

Victorious Decepticons wrote:1. What do you say to Felicié and what do you do next? Why? Do you help or not? How do you proceed? (the question is not, how SHOULD you respond, its how WOULD you respond?) Justify your decision.

"No. Too bad. Now get to steppin'."
"Justify your decision." Because she's a raging bitch who deserves it, and I am never one to pass up vengeance. The intersection of the two = she's going home dirty. AND I'm grabbing a camera and taking pics of my own.

2. To what extent do you believe there is a duty of Forgiveness? Less than zero. The duty is to make people like that learn not to be such assholes anymore, and there's nothing like good old-fashioned payback to help get the point across (or at least to help ensure that they aren't jerks to ME again). Instant forgiveness gives these jerks the idea that it's just fine to be jerks, thereby making them get worse even faster than they ordinarily would have, and adding to the misery level of the world.

She wasn't just wanting "forgiveness," though. She wanted her ass kissed with access to the shower, help cleaning up, etc., with NO word of sympathy or apology to the protagonist! Fuck that pathological narcissist. She deserves to be pushed back into the mud, and I'd probably do the pushing given how infuriated I'd be in your scenario.


You're correct in that she's not apologetic.

I wrote the exact wording of her request so there's an natural underlying tone of passive aggressiveness. Basically, aside from the single "Please" its more like "this is your fault, your party sucks, you can't leave a girl out in this mess."
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:58 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Ignore her. Sit in the corner and start injecting the marijuana.


Taking full advantage of the British Columbian setting?

Do they inject the marijuanas in British Columbia?
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:17 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
Taking full advantage of the British Columbian setting?

Do they inject the marijuanas in British Columbia?


It’s close to literally everywhere. To be completely legalized/regulated in mid October 2018 under the national bill.

I’ve heard British Columbia makes almost half of all Canadian pot. The non snowy weather plus the rain makes it a major marijuana growing point. There’s a several billion dollar underworld economy based on it.

For the purposes of the thread and since this is a “cool” party, you can bet many people will be smoking pot at the farm house. Whether you join or not is up to you; your answer is more realistic and fitting then you might think.

It is set in British Columbia.

I believe it’s smoked and not injected but I’m no expert.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:31 am

Dreshand wrote:Both of my responses can be described in one sentence
"Go fuck yourself"


And what if she responds by slapping you when you say that? (This is in the arsenal of these types of people)

Then what?
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Postby Western-Ukraine » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:34 am

I would never be involved in a remotely similar situation, but that's given for IM's scenarios. I'd probably take a photo of her to show my friends for the laughs and then leave her on her own. She might've been humiliated already, but I'd want to get personal revenge. And no, I don't believe in any duty of forgiveness; it's a dog-eat-dog world where we have to be ruthless with ruthless people.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:42 am

I suppose I'll actually weigh in.

I'd ask her for an apology, then allow her to use the facilities. I believe there's an almost infinite duty to forgiveness, so I would be obliged to that.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:45 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:I suppose I'll actually weigh in.

I'd ask her for an apology, then allow her to use the facilities. I believe there's an almost infinite duty to forgiveness, so I would be obliged to that.

If by "facilities" you mean the garden hose, then yes.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:46 am

Western-Ukraine wrote:I would never be involved in a remotely similar situation, but that's given for IM's scenarios. I'd probably take a photo of her to show my friends for the laughs and then leave her on her own. She might've been humiliated already, but I'd want to get personal revenge. And no, I don't believe in any duty of forgiveness; it's a dog-eat-dog world where we have to be ruthless with ruthless people.


My scenarios typically require the posters to behave like a generic stock character up until they face a real life decision.

For instance, in the last thread you were a generic subversive comic antihero with a standard military background until you had to make a choice and justify.

This time, you’re more like a horror movie frat boy/girl. The type that spends the first 15-25 mins of a cheap horror movie cussing with friends and pulling “standard college” stunts like getting drunk or going on a dare. You know?

And usually somewhere in this op someone, often a young girl but not always, will behave with cartoonishly over the top villainy/uncalled for hostility.

And usually the crowd (whether police or your peers in this case) won’t help and will instead makes things worse (remember the Whip/Dance of Shame thread where the crowd jeers too?)

I’m establishing some tropes here.

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:47 am

Demand the camera so I can delete all the photos and then turn off the water.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:51 am

The New California Republic wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:I suppose I'll actually weigh in.

I'd ask her for an apology, then allow her to use the facilities. I believe there's an almost infinite duty to forgiveness, so I would be obliged to that.

If by "facilities" you mean the garden hose, then yes.

Nah, shower, washing machine, etc. Whatever she needs.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:52 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:If by "facilities" you mean the garden hose, then yes.

Nah, shower, washing machine, etc. Whatever she needs.

Garden hose and a sack, the bare minimum that she needs. :)
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:54 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Demand the camera so I can delete all the photos and then turn off the water.


She dropped (and did not retrieve) the camera when she went into the pit. I think it’s buried in the super long op somewhere.

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Postby The South Falls » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:56 am

I mean, prank here. If it's a farm, then it must have some sort of hay. Pile the shower with hay before she gets in, so she has to do work to clear it.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:57 am

The South Falls wrote:I mean, prank here. If it's a farm, then it must have some sort of hay. Pile the shower with hay before she gets in, so she has to do work to clear it.


What if she leaves, then you have to clean it before your relatives come home? :(

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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:57 am

The South Falls wrote:I mean, prank here. If it's a farm, then it must have some sort of hay. Pile the shower with hay before she gets in, so she has to do work to clear it.

Manure, not hay.
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They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
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Postby Western-Ukraine » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:57 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Western-Ukraine wrote:I would never be involved in a remotely similar situation, but that's given for IM's scenarios. I'd probably take a photo of her to show my friends for the laughs and then leave her on her own. She might've been humiliated already, but I'd want to get personal revenge. And no, I don't believe in any duty of forgiveness; it's a dog-eat-dog world where we have to be ruthless with ruthless people.


My scenarios typically require the posters to behave like a generic stock character up until they face a real life decision.

For instance, in the last thread you were a generic subversive comic antihero with a standard military background until you had to make a choice and justify.

This time, you’re more like a horror movie frat boy/girl. The type that spends the first 15-25 mins of a cheap horror movie cussing with friends and pulling “standard college” stunts like getting drunk or going on a dare. You know?

And usually somewhere in this op someone, often a young girl but not always, will behave with cartoonishly over the top villainy/uncalled for hostility.

And usually the crowd (whether police or your peers in this case) won’t help and will instead makes things worse (remember the Whip/Dance of Shame thread where the crowd jeers too?)

I’m establishing some tropes here.

It's easy to see the scenario is not realistic and inspired by tropes. What about it?
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