Americans don't understand Scots law; Compassion.

[SD_Film Artists]

>:( This has nothing to do with compassion, which this bastard does not in any way deserve. It was a dirty backroom deal between Blair and Lybia, using the Scots as England's cat's-paw. (How often does one get to use that term in a sentence?)

It's not like blair was king of england. He was prime minister of the UK, scotland was not played by england, it was played by the UK. And it is part of the UK.

Jeez, talk about nitpicking...Let's put it this way: the UK is shifting the blame onto the Scottish government. Is that better? (Kinda like the Federal Govt. in the US shifting the blame to one of the states.)

Not really. It was the scottish government's decision, and afaik the UK government hasn't condemned it.

It was the decision that Blair told them to make, is what I think.

Maybe, and they went along with it. I still don't think the UK has condemned them for doing so. They aren't blaming anyone. Unless they have (and you have a source to that effect)?

IIRC David Cameron said that it was a bad decision to release him (or something to that effect).

[Mikedor]

>:( This has nothing to do with compassion, which this bastard does not in any way deserve. It was a dirty backroom deal between Blair and Lybia, using the Scots as England's cat's-paw. (How often does one get to use that term in a sentence?)

It's not like blair was king of england. He was prime minister of the UK, scotland was not played by england, it was played by the UK. And it is part of the UK.

Jeez, talk about nitpicking...Let's put it this way: the UK is shifting the blame onto the Scottish government. Is that better? (Kinda like the Federal Govt. in the US shifting the blame to one of the states.)

Not really. It was the scottish government's decision, and afaik the UK government hasn't condemned it.

It was the decision that Blair told them to make, is what I think.

Maybe, and they went along with it. I still don't think the UK has condemned them for doing so. They aren't blaming anyone. Unless they have (and you have a source to that effect)?

IIRC David Cameron said that it was a bad decision to release him (or something to that effect).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8212457.stm

[Person012345]

>:( This has nothing to do with compassion, which this bastard does not in any way deserve. It was a dirty backroom deal between Blair and Lybia, using the Scots as England's cat's-paw. (How often does one get to use that term in a sentence?)

It's not like blair was king of england. He was prime minister of the UK, scotland was not played by england, it was played by the UK. And it is part of the UK.

Jeez, talk about nitpicking...Let's put it this way: the UK is shifting the blame onto the Scottish government. Is that better? (Kinda like the Federal Govt. in the US shifting the blame to one of the states.)

Not really. It was the scottish government's decision, and afaik the UK government hasn't condemned it.

It was the decision that Blair told them to make, is what I think.

Maybe, and they went along with it. I still don't think the UK has condemned them for doing so. They aren't blaming anyone. Unless they have (and you have a source to that effect)?

IIRC David Cameron said that it was a bad decision to release him (or something to that effect).

Was he speaking on behalf of the British government? Because politicians personal opinion =/= government stance.

[Yootwopia]

IIRC David Cameron said that it was a bad decision to release him (or something to that effect).

Mmm yes but then he would, seeing as it was a Scottish decision that he couldn't challenge, thus providing more fuel for the "help help England is so oppressed" crowd which makes up a fairly substantial proportion of the Tory voting base.

[Yootwopia]

Was he speaking on behalf of the British government? Because politicians personal opinion =/= government stance.

It wouldn't matter if it was a governmental or personal call, because, like an Indian princely state Back In The Day, Scotland has presidency over its own laws.

[SD_Film Artists]

IIRC David Cameron said that it was a bad decision to release him (or something to that effect).

Mmm yes but then he would, seeing as it was a Scottish decision that he couldn't challenge, thus providing more fuel for the "help help England is so oppressed" crowd which makes up a fairly substantial proportion of the Tory voting base.

Other than the West Lothian Question I don't see how that exists. As an Englishman, I thought that the "stop watching Braveheart, England isn't oppressing anyone and neither is it a synonym for Britain" crowed is more important.

[Yootwopia]

Other than the West Lothian Question I don't see how that exists. As an Englishman, I thought that the "stop watching Braveheart, England isn't oppressing anyone and neither is it a synonym for Britain" crowed is more important.

Plenty of people out there moping that Scotland gets slightly more funding per head than England despite its obvious importance for the oil and gas industries, and its freshwater reserves, and arguing it it's some kind of state within a state as if this is a new phenomenon.

[The Holy Raj]

Personally, I wouldn't have released him, and preferably would have had him hanged (I know there was no death penalty then, I mean in a perfect world), but if we, (The British/Scottish Government) wanted to release him, for oil deals or any other reason, then the Americans should accept our decision, and certainly not snap their fingers and demand Scottish Ministers to appear before congress. We can do as we please, we're a sovereign nation, and we don't need US approval to make decisions based on our own domestic legal system.

[St George of England]

Personally, I wouldn't have released him, and preferably would have had him hanged (I know there was no death penalty then, I mean in a perfect world),

then an innocent man would have been hanged.

but if we, (The British/Scottish Government) wanted to release him, for oil deals or any other reason, then the Americans should accept our decision, and certainly not snap their fingers and demand Scottish Ministers to appear before congress. We can do as we please, we're a sovereign nation, and we don't need US approval to make decisions based on our own domestic legal system.

exactly right. we don't need colonials bossing us around, thank you very much.

[Bydlostan (Ancient)]

If the Americans really cared they would ban Scottish exports or have the guy assassinated.

[Coccygia]

If the Americans really cared they would ban Scottish exports or have the guy assassinated.

What, laddie, then we'd hae nae haggis for Bobbie Burns day!

[Yootwopia]

Rabbie Burns -_-

I also can't believe how long this lasted, lulz.

[Coccygia]

Rabbie Burns -_-

Huh? I didn't even know he was Jewish.

[Geniasis]

What, laddie, then we'd hae nae haggis for Bobbie Burns day!

Awe rite, aam gonnae pit thes post in a leid 'at ye scotsmen can kin, alrecht?

Noo, we americans ur huir uv a upsit at whit yoo've dain. yoo've released a violent criminal. nevermin' th' fact 'at th' trial was flimsy, mah gut says he was guilty, an' that's evidence enaw! also, some americans died, which gi'es america th' reit tae overrule yer sovereignty. it's aw in th' manual.

[DaWoad]

What, laddie, then we'd hae nae haggis for Bobbie Burns day!

Awe rite, aam gonnae pit thes post in a leid 'at ye scotsmen can kin, alrecht?

Noo, we americans ur huir uv a upsit at whit yoo've dain. yoo've released a violent criminal. nevermin' th' fact 'at th' trial was flimsy, mah gut says he was guilty, an' that's evidence enaw! also, some americans died, which gi'es america th' reit tae overrule yer sovereignty. it's aw in th' manual.

Ach that dunnea seem fair at 'ool why're the americans been' so scunnert.

[Geniasis]

Ach that dunnea seem fair at 'ool why're the americans been' so scunnert.

Swatch, dornt gie aw butthurt wi' me, aam jist tellin' ye what's in th' manual!

[DaWoad]

Ach that dunnea seem fair at 'ool why're the americans been' so scunnert.

Swatch, dornt gie aw butthurt wi' me, aam jist tellin' ye what's in th' manual!

heh heh heh heh
ach laddie I doo apologize fur mah farardness I wasna an' wouldna thinking o blamin yu.

[Geniasis]

heh heh heh heh
ach laddie I doo apologize fur mah farardness I wasna an' wouldna thinking o blamin yu.

Nah, dornt fash yerse abit it. Bluntness is a quality we admire haur in America.

Fancy a haggis?

[Pope Joan]

I at first agreed with the decision. But now it's been more than three months and I recall reading somewhere that he may still be alive.

He is probably going to live for a lot longer than they said he was.

We can't accurately predict when someone with a fatal disease is going to die.

Our government demands that hospice doctors guarantee a date of death for the terminally ill before they release funding for end-of-life care (and before they allow prolonged use of morphine and other addictive painkillers).

If the doctor guesses wrong, he or she is in trouble. Too many wrong guesses, and their program can lose funding.

[Yootwopia]

I'm sorry but you guys are writing in some kind of horrendous dialect mismatch that could only come between the bastard offspring of a Glaswegian and someone from Fife, raised in Edinburgh and who holidayed in the Orkney Isles -_-

[Geniasis]

I'm sorry but you guys are writing in some kind of horrendous dialect mismatch that could only come between the bastard offspring of a Glaswegian and someone from Fife, raised in Edinburgh and who holidayed in the Orkney Isles -_-

Impossible. My dialect translator comes from a '.uk' website. I can't be bothered to write out the mathematical equation that makes it infallible, but it involves the square root of negative one.

So beware, bitches.

[Maurepas]

Isn't that guy, like, you know, 90? The hell difference does it make where he finally croaks? I mean, what's gonna do that we need to throw him in jail to protect ourselves from?

And of course, we have no right to tell the Scots to do anything at all.

[DaWoad]

I'm sorry but you guys are writing in some kind of horrendous dialect mismatch that could only come between the bastard offspring of a Glaswegian and someone from Fife, raised in Edinburgh and who holidayed in the Orkney Isles -_-

Impossible. My dialect translator comes from a '.uk' website. I can't be bothered to write out the mathematical equation that makes it infallible, but it involves the square root of negative one.

So beware, bitches.

You have a translator? Gah my yearly trip to Scotland can never compete. I surrender sir, you have won

[North Suran]

If he would have pulled that crap here in Texas, he would have been executed like he should have been and this sort of horrendous blunder would never have occurred in the first place. Why must Europe be so backwards?

[Equimanthon]

To my understanding, Americans were massacred as well by that muslim. So, yeah, we have something to say about it. I already think that it's ridiculous and backwards that the UK has banned the death penalty, but something is severely wrong when one, especially a muslim foreigner, can go there and murder some 250 people and get released later on with the excuse that he'll probably die soon anyways.

*Shakes head at Britain*

Oh for FUCK'S sake! It wasn't the British government that released him! It was the fucking Scots! Is it that hard to fucking grasp?