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UNIverseVERSE
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Re: Your Political Compass results.

Postby UNIverseVERSE » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:17 pm

Aetheras wrote:lesten dude, stop telling me i don't understand this stuff, iv studied it long and hard (yes i said long and hard) the IRA are NOT extreme liberals, they are socialist, autoritarian socialist to be more exact, akin to the likes of stalinism or sein fein (one of our parties)
marxism and communism are indeed different, but not in beliefs, marxism is the world view that that communism should be brought about through a revolution and workers state, which is the instrument of bringing about communism, the final stage of marxism, the utopia

edit: i know i contradicted myself there, but i was wrong the first time


Firstly, I have a much higher opinion of people's likely understanding if they can write as well as a 14 year old.

The distinction between Marxism and Communism was important to that part of my post, because while Marx's position was generally anti-organised-religion, this is in no way a required feature of communism in general.

Thank you for the edit. Please remember that all we have to go on in this forum is your posts. If what you post is incorrect for some evident reason, we will likely correct it. Remember also that assuming liberalism, socialism, and communism are synonymous is surprisingly common -- when you appeared to make the same mistake, we (or at least I) naturally assumed it was genuine.
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Re: Your Political Compass results.

Postby Western Mercenary Unio » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:17 pm

No Names Left Damn It wrote:That should either be "Grammar policeman strikes again." or "Grammar police strike again."


The Tofu Islands wrote:I'm pretty sure that would be "strike" not "strikes".


Well, grammar police strike again then!
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Political Compass: -4.25, -6.26
Disclaimer: I might be totally wrong, due to the fact that I probably know jackshit about the subject.

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Re: Your Political Compass results.

Postby Western Mercenary Unio » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:20 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:Image


I have that same pic on my computer. Thanks to you.
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Political Compass: -4.25, -6.26
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Re: Your Political Compass results.

Postby Aetheras » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:24 pm

UNIverseVERSE wrote:
Aetheras wrote:lesten dude, stop telling me i don't understand this stuff, iv studied it long and hard (yes i said long and hard) the IRA are NOT extreme liberals, they are socialist, autoritarian socialist to be more exact, akin to the likes of stalinism or sein fein (one of our parties)
marxism and communism are indeed different, but not in beliefs, marxism is the world view that that communism should be brought about through a revolution and workers state, which is the instrument of bringing about communism, the final stage of marxism, the utopia

edit: i know i contradicted myself there, but i was wrong the first time


Firstly, I have a much higher opinion of people's likely understanding if they can write as well as a 14 year old.

The distinction between Marxism and Communism was important to that part of my post, because while Marx's position was generally anti-organised-religion, this is in no way a required feature of communism in general.

Thank you for the edit. Please remember that all we have to go on in this forum is your posts. If what you post is incorrect for some evident reason, we will likely correct it. Remember also that assuming liberalism, socialism, and communism are synonymous is surprisingly common -- when you appeared to make the same mistake, we (or at least I) naturally assumed it was genuine.

i misspell often on my laptop i know, the keys are awful
i feel communism *should* be anti religion, religion opresses the workers, it is a tool of the leaders to keep the proletariat happy
i never thought that communism socialism and liberalism were the same, for example look at stalin, he was communist (although he did corupt marx's intentions) but he definitly wasn't liberal, while socialism is simply common ownership, it doesn ot imply the dismantling of the state like communism or the freedom of liberalism
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Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.31

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UNIverseVERSE
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Re: Your Political Compass results.

Postby UNIverseVERSE » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:31 pm

Aetheras wrote:i feel communism *should* be anti religion, religion opresses the workers, it is a tool of the leaders to keep the proletariat happy


Organised religion can be a tool of oppression, that's true. However, it is quite possible to construct strong cases for collectivism from a religious position (again, look up the Christian Left). Conversely, personal religion is not a problem for communism -- it oppresses no-one, save maybe the believer emself, but that is fine. one cannot force another human to freedom in their mind -- the limits they place on themselves, for whatever reason, are the only bonds that cannot be justly lifted (or indeed lifted at all).

Edit: Indeed, I would be rather offended by the suggestion that, as an anarchist communist, I must be against religion. Just like I would be offended by the suggestion that, as a Christian, I must be authoritarian capitalist. Religion and libcom politics can combine beautifully well.

Aetheras wrote:i never thought that communism socialism and liberalism were the same, for exaple look at stalin, he was communist (although he did corupt marx's intentions) but he definitly wasn't liberal, while socialism is simply common ownership, it doesn ot imply the dismantling of the state like communism or the freedom of liberalism


No, I wasn't accusing you of doing so. I was merely accusing you of having said so, which is all we have to go by here.
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Re: Your Political Compass results.

Postby Aetheras » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:31 pm

anyways, i conclude with my beliefs, live free or die , great talking to you
bye bye!
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Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.31

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Re: Your Political Compass results.

Postby Tratvia » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:40 pm

*doesn't want to get in the way of the pie fight*

For those whom it interests, my results.

Economic Left/Right: -6.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.90

I''m a liberal left winger, so the results don't surprise me.

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Re: Your Political Compass results.

Postby Holy Cheese and Shoes » Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:53 pm

*edges in an on-topic post and hopes no-one notices*

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Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.44

I think I have become more economically right in the last 5 years.... Probably due to being a cog in the machine of corporate greed.
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Re: Your Political Compass results.

Postby Vandengaarde » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:19 pm

I'm stalin




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Re: Your Political Compass results.

Postby Neu Leonstein » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:26 pm

Aetheras wrote:if you do this your libertarian or an objectivist, there is NO such thing as anarcho capitalism, end of story

You're wrong.
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Economic Left/Right: 2.25 | Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.33
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Re: Your Political Compass results.

Postby Shazbotdom » Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:27 pm

Last time I took it, I got a +1.3,-7.2 which would put me in the Libertarian area.
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Re: Your Political Compass results.

Postby Derscon » Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:49 pm

Purple Square > All

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Re: Your Political Compass results.

Postby New Mitanni » Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:46 pm

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 5.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.67

Seems about right to me.
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Re: Your Political Compass results.

Postby Derscon » Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:48 pm

New Mitanni wrote:Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 5.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.67

Seems about right to me.


You're not purple, therefore, you suck. -_-
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Re: Your Political Compass results.

Postby Lithzenze » Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:18 pm

Economic Left/Right: -7.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.26

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Re: Your Political Compass results.

Postby Chumblywumbly » Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:20 pm

Vandengaarde wrote:I'm stalin

Then I applaud your embalmer.
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Re: Your Political Compass results.

Postby Vandengaarde » Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:25 pm

You know what I mean. >:(
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Re: Your Political Compass results.

Postby Surote » Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:32 pm

Economic Left/Right: 0.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.18

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Re: Your Political Compass results.

Postby Derscon » Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:43 pm

Surote wrote:Economic Left/Right: 0.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.18


Hmm... purple, but just barely. You need to stop hating freedom so much.
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Re: Your Political Compass results.

Postby Surote » Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:20 pm

I reglulate some freedoms I don't hate them

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Re: Your Political Compass results.

Postby Kyronea » Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:24 pm

No Names Left Damn It wrote:Post them here, discuss the thread, whether your results were surprising, whether you view them as accurate, what you thought of the questions etc.
Here's the link: http://www.politicalcompass.org

I just retook the test:

Economic Left/Right: 0.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.87

I'm transforming slowly into David Cameron. *Shudders*

Economic Left/Right: 1.32
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.37

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Re: Your Political Compass results.

Postby Derscon » Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:27 pm

Surote wrote:I reglulate some freedoms I don't hate them


...so you hate freedom, then. got it.
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Re: Your Political Compass results.

Postby Surote » Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:37 pm

Just retook the test here are my results : Economic Left/Right: -0.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.64

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Re: Your Political Compass results.

Postby Surote » Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:38 pm

Derscon wrote:
Surote wrote:I reglulate some freedoms I don't hate them


...so you hate freedom, then. got it.


I don't hate freedom

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Re: Your Political Compass results.

Postby Derscon » Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:49 pm

Surote wrote:
Derscon wrote:
Surote wrote:I reglulate some freedoms I don't hate them


...so you hate freedom, then. got it.


I don't hate freedom


Your compass results suggest otherwise. That, and your icon is of the Democratic Party, and everyone knows communists hate freedom.
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