Freedom of speech // Is the West falling behind?

[Cordel One]

Ugh, the constant rightist victim complex. Putting kids in cages and systemically harming black people is perfectly ok, bur inciting a riot and getting banned from Twitter for it after years of promoting misinformation? Must be an ANTIFA BLM Illuminati deep state false flag. Truly an Orwellian nightmare, comparable to being Jewish in 1930s Germany.

The left is really the one that has the victim complex. Why? Because at least socially, you have different sects like third-feminists, those in the black and minority communities, other "social justice" causes who are complaining about a status quo that isn't really as bad as an issue in reality. There is the crazy hypocrisy and double standards too. At least the right is honest and upfront about where they stand.

Again, rightists have been defending war crimes and the police state but apparently being banned from the bird app crosses some sacred line that ushers in a new wave of totalitarianism.

Also, Hitler was rightist himself and used "Lugenpresse" and similar made-up conspiracies against him to get himself in power.

Whataboutism, strawmen, and attempted deflection are not valid ways around an argument.

[Vedastia]

Most Western countries classified as having "free speech" do not have free speech to the standard that America does. Almost nowhere else has the standard of freedom of speech that America has. The rest of what would be called Western civilization has "fallen behind" America in that regard practically since the US was founded, if it was ever ahead. Freedom of speech in the Anglosphere has always been ahead of the rest of the West and the rest of the world. The US doesn't have laws criminalizing certain political statements... yet.

I say "yet" because the noises that the government establishment connected to the Democratic Party have been making have been absolutely horrifying on that front. A proposed domestic terrorism law that is almost certainly only going to be applied to the current establishment's political opponents is being supported by the same people who opposed the Patriot Act for doing the same thing. Law professors are shifting their positions on their interpretation of the First Amendment from one where freedom of speech is sacrosanct to one where the federal government can regulate broad and sweeping categories of what people can & cannot say without being punished by the government. The Sedition Act, long held to be a blatant and direct attack on the Federalist Party's political opponents in the standard American historical narrative, is now being cast in a positive light. People in the establishment (often people who do not believe in "objective truth" as a concept) are calling for a government agency that decides what is true and what isn't. This is very dangerous, especially when the speech that is being called into question has to do with questioning the outcome of an election and is damning hypocrisy in light of what many of the people proposing these restrictions have been saying about the outcome of the 2016 election.

We can't ignore what's going on in the universities anymore. What could be dismissed as typical campus craziness in the '90s and early 2000s has become the dominant establishment narrative in such a short amount of time. It has become clear to me that the people who were fighting for free speech back in the '60s weren't serious and only wanted freedom of speech for themselves but not for their political opponents. These are people who play to win. Their calls for unity seem more like calls for domination of their political opponents than anything else in light of what they want to do. As the years go by, I find myself thinking about something I've said a few years ago here a lot:


This is true on the right as much on the left. The average American conservative is starting to question liberal society, too, not just illiberal right-wingers, especially because their own opponents, who have basked in it for so long that the right itself in America has become a lot more liberal over the past several decades, now want to clamp down on their opposition hard. People are now seriously thinking along the lines of Carl Schmitt's axiom, "The specific political distinction to which political actions and motives can be reduced is that between friend and enemy."

The US's situation regarding freedom of speech is rapidly deteriorating. Currently, there is no other country on Earth that has the robust freedom of speech protections that the US does, but given what the establishment is proposing, I can see the US getting worse than quite a few places on that front rather quickly. It won't be anywhere near the worst, but nothing like it is now. My family has seriously considered emigrating over the past month, something that they have never said seriously before. They see the writing on the wall and feel like they should prepare to get out while they still can.

Bruh it was the right wing who attacked the US on Jan 6th. Not the dems.

Yes? I never denied that. The fact still remains that many in the establishment wanted to do what they're saying they want to do now anyway and wanted an excuse.

[Nilokeras]

The left is really the one that has the victim complex.

'when we blamed the communists for the reichstag fire it was really the communists who had the victim complex'

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

The left is really the one that has the victim complex. Why? Because at least socially, you have different sects like third-feminists, those in the black and minority communities, other "social justice" causes who are complaining about a status quo that isn't really as bad as an issue in reality. There is the crazy hypocrisy and double standards too. At least the right is honest and upfront about where they stand.

Again, rightists have been defending war crimes and the police state but apparently being banned from the bird app crosses some sacred line that ushers in a new wave of totalitarianism.

Also, Hitler was rightist himself and used "Lugenpresse" and similar made-up conspiracies against him to get himself in power.

Whataboutism, strawmen, and attempted deflection are not valid ways around an argument.

Most rightists are nowhere near as bad as Hitler...and comparing opponents to him can be considered a logical fallacy, as well.

[Cordel One]

Again, rightists have been defending war crimes and the police state but apparently being banned from the bird app crosses some sacred line that ushers in a new wave of totalitarianism.

Also, Hitler was rightist himself and used "Lugenpresse" and similar made-up conspiracies against him to get himself in power.

Whataboutism, strawmen, and attempted deflection are not valid ways around an argument.

Most rightists are nowhere near as bad as Hitler...and comparing opponents to him can be considered a logical fallacy, as well.

True enough, though there is legitimacy in the argument, especially regarding the menality of their cults of personality.

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

In the far right, yes, but also on the far left--extremism exists on both sides. There were also historical cults of personality, but, fortunately, the divine right of kings does not play into modern American politics.

[Albrenia]

Again, rightists have been defending war crimes and the police state but apparently being banned from the bird app crosses some sacred line that ushers in a new wave of totalitarianism.

Also, Hitler was rightist himself and used "Lugenpresse" and similar made-up conspiracies against him to get himself in power.

Whataboutism, strawmen, and attempted deflection are not valid ways around an argument.

Most rightists are nowhere near as bad as Hitler...and comparing opponents to him can be considered a logical fallacy, as well.

Eh, fair game in this case since the other person decided that Jan 6th was the Reichstag Fire.

[Arvenia]

Like im gonna trust Wikipedia

Wikipedia is a reliable source

My old secondary school doesn't think so.

[The Alma Mater]

Edumacate yourself

Like im gonna trust Wikipedia

You shouldn't. But wikipedia cites sources.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Wikipedia is a reliable source

My old secondary school doesn't think so.

Schools often have an irrational disdain for Wikipedia based on things that the site has since cracked down on quite a bit.

[Arvenia]

My old secondary school doesn't think so.

Schools often have an irrational disdain for Wikipedia based on things that the site has since cracked down on quite a bit.

Could those things refer to the numerous shady edits?

[Cultural Posadism]

who are complaining about a status quo that isn't really as bad as an issue in reality

Pro-tip: research before you post.

Institutional Racism
This entire section is credited to Rose Wrist, a former guest of the stream. (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3rSgPl8_RLMBHHsjaY7VAA, https://www.instagram.com/left__ty/)

They are near-entirely responsible for the collection of this data. Seriously, I just ripped most of this from their document - with their permission, of course. I’m only broadcasting their incredible work with my much larger audience.




https://www.sentencingproject.org/wp-co ... Matter.pdf
Extensive document on racial biases in our criminal justice system.
Studies seem to indicate about 61-80% of black overrepresentation in prisons can be explained by higher black crime rates, with the unexplained portion largely attributable to racial bias.
Remember - the factors which lead to disproportionate criminality amongst black Americans are also in large part a product of racial bias. Underfunded public programs, redlining, generational poverty, bad schooling, and myriad other factors which influence criminality can also be traced to racial bias.

Investigation of the Ferguson Police Department
Between 2012 and 2014, black people in Ferguson accounted for 85 percent of vehicle stops, 90 percent of citations and 93 percent of arrests, despite comprising 67 percent of the population.
Blacks were more than twice as likely as whites to be searched after traffic stops even after controlling for related variables, though they proved to be 26 percent less likely to be in possession of illegal drugs or weapons.
Between 2011 and 2013, blacks also received 95 percent of jaywalking tickets and 94 percent of tickets for “failure to comply.” The Justice Department also found that the racial discrepancy for speeding tickets increased dramatically when researchers looked at tickets based on only an officer’s word vs. tickets based on objective evidence, such as a radar.
Black people facing similar low-level charges as white people were 68 percent less likely to see those charges dismissed in court. More than 90 percent of the arrest warrants stemming from failure to pay/failure to appear were issued for black people.

Biases in Stops, Searches & Arrests

The Concentrated Racial Impact of Drug Imprisonment and the Characteristics of Punitive Counties
While White & Black Americans admit to using and selling illicit drugs at similar rates, Black Americans are VASTLY more likely to go to prison for a drug offense.
In 2002, Black Americans were incarcerated for drug offenses at TEN TIMES the rate of White Americans.
Today, Blacks are 3.7x as likely to be arrested for a marijuana offense as Whites, despite similar usage.
97% of “large-population counties” have racial biases in their drug offense incarceration.

Militarization fails to enhance police safety or reduce crime but may harm police reputation
Police militarization does not lead to a decrease in crimes committed or officer injuries, may actually increase both.
Police militarization (including the adoption of SWAT teams) decreases public trust in police, which may contribute to increases in crime.
Militarized police are disproportionately deployed in African American communities, even when accounting for crime rates.

https://www.acludc.org/sites/default/fi ... _final.pdf
This ACLU report reviews 5 months’ of data from DC police stops & searches by race and outcome.
The black population of DC is 25% greater than the white population, but black people were 410% more likely to be stopped by the police than white people
This disparity increases to 1465% for stops which led to n*o warning, ticket or arrest and 3695% for searches which led to no warning, ticket or arrest.
This data indicates the disproportionate stopping and searching of blacks in the DC area extended massively beyond any disproportionate rate of criminality.

The Problem of Infra-marginality in Outcome Tests for Discrimination
Analysis of 4.5 million traffic stops in North Carolina shows blacks and latinos were more likely to be searched than whites (5.4 percent, 4.1 percent and 3.1 percent, respectively).
Despite this, searches of white motorists were the most likely to reveal contraband (32% of whites, 29% of blacks, 19% of latinos).

https://drivingwhileblacknashville.file ... s-army.pdf
Between 2011 and 2015, black drivers in Nashville’s Davidson County were pulled over at a rate of 1,122 stops per 1,000 drivers — so on average, more than once per black driver.
Black drivers were also searched at twice the rate of white drivers, though — as in other jurisdictions — searches of white drivers were more likely to turn up contraband.

A large-scale analysis of racial disparities in police stops across the United States
Enormous study of nearly 100,000,000 traffic stops conducted across America.
Analysis finds the bar for searching black and hispanic drivers’ cars is significantly lower than the bar for white drivers.
Additionally, black drivers are less likely to be pulled over after sunset, when “a ‘veil of darkness’ masks ones’ race”.
Biases by Judges, Juries & Prosecutors

Demographic Differences in Sentencing: An Update to the 2012 Booker Report
Extensive multivariate regression analysis indicates black male offenders receive 19.1% longer federal sentences than similarly-situated white male offenders (white male offenders with similar past offenses, socioeconomic background, etc.)
This disparity seems to stem mostly from black males being 21.2% less likely to receive non-government sponsored downward departures or variances.
Non-government sponsored departures and variances refer to deviations from standard sentencing guidelines due to judicial discretion.
Black males who do receive non government-sponsored departures and variations still serve 16.8% longer sentences than white males on average.
In contrast, when sentencing length follows standard guidelines, that disparity is only 7.9%, and a substantial assistance departure for both groups nullifies that disparity.
IN SUMMARY - much of the sentencing disparity between similarly situated black males and white males comes down to judicial discretion to deviate from standard sentencing guidelines.
BONUS - regression analysis suggests violence in a criminal’s history does NOT explain sentencing disparities between black males and similarly situated white males - the effect of that factor seems to be statistically insignificant.
ADDENDUM - Some have asked me to clarify a sentence at the end of this report, where its authors write it cannot be used to prove discrimination on the part of judges. First, that disclaimer warns against inferring active discrimination as opposed to implicit bias - the disclaimer does not say the report cannot be used to prove implicit bias. Second, researchers are often quick to point out their research cannot prove a point, especially regarding intent. It can only strongly suggest a point - natural limitation of multivariate regression analysis.

Racial Disparity in Federal Criminal Sentences
Examination of federal data indicates Black Americans spend about 10% more time in prison when compared to comparable Whites who commit the same crimes.
Additionally, Black arrestees are 75% more likely to be charged with a crime carrying a mandatory minimum sentence.
Prosecutors contribute massively to this undeniable racial bias.???

Report on Jury Selection Study
Between 1990 and 2010, state prosecutors struck about 53% of black people eligible for juries in criminal cases, as opposed to 26% of white people. The study’s authors testified the odds of this taking place in a race-neutral context were around 1 in 10 trillion.
After accounting for factors prosecutors select for which tend to correlate with race, black people were still struck twice as often.
North Carolina’s state legislator had previously passed a law stating death penalty defendants who could demonstrate racial bias in their jury selection could have their sentences changed to life without parole. The legislature later repealed that law.

Different Shades of Bias: Skin Tone, Implicit Racial Bias, and Judgments of Ambiguous Evidence
In this study, two groups of mock jurors were given a collection of race-neutral evidence from an armed robbery, with one group’s alleged perpetrator being shown to be light-skinned and the other dark-skinned.
Jurors were significantly more likely to evaluate ambiguous, race-neutral evidence against the dark-skinned suspect as incriminating and more likely to find the dark-skinned suspect guilty.

https://bja.ojp.gov/sites/g/files/xycku ... ummary.pdf
Government aggregate of data on plea and charge bargaining.
“Studies that assess the effects of race find that blacks are less likely to receive a reduced charge compared with whites.”
“Studies have generally found a relationship between race and whether or not a defendant receives a reduced charge.”
“The majority of research on race and sentencing outcomes shows that blacks are less likely than whites to receive reduced pleas.“
In short, collected data strongly indicates a racial bias against blacks with regards to sentencing and plea bargains.

https://www.yalelawjournal.org/article/ ... -of-booker
Black men are twice as likely to have charges which carry mandatory minimum sentences filed against them than similarly-situated white men.
This article recommends against the tightening of judicial discretion, arguing that process has historically led to greater racial sentencing disparities.

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/do ... 1&type=pdf
Black defendants with multiple prior convictions are 28% more likely to be charged as “habitual offenders” than similarly-situated white defendants.
“Assessments of dangerousness and culpability are linked to race and ethnicity, even after offense seriousness and prior record are controlled.”

https://sci-hub.tw/https://onlinelibrar ... jels.12077
A study of first-time felons in Georgia found black men received sentences of on average 270 days longer than similarly-situated white males.
However, when black males were differentiated by skin tone, it was found light-skinned black men saw virtually no disparity in their sentencing while dark-skinned black men actually saw a disparity of around 400 days in prison.

https://sci-hub.tw/https://papers.ssrn. ... id=1990324
A study of bail in 5 large counties found blacks received significantly higher bail than whites who had committed similar crimes.
The bail was $7,000 higher for violent crimes, $13,000 higher for drug crimes and $10,000 higher for crimes related to public order.

https://www.urban.org/sites/default/fil ... cation.PDF
The Urban Institute analyzed the histories of four probation offices and found black people were 18-39% more likely than similarly-situated white people to have their probation revoked.
Biases in Death Penalty Sentencing

https://files.deathpenaltyinfo.org/lega ... dy2014.pdf
Analysis of 33 years of data from Washington State to determine which characteristics best predict the decision to implement a death sentence.
Black defendants are 4.5 times as likely to receive a death sentence as similarly-situated whites.
Other factors (presence of aggravating circumstances, involvement of sex crimes, hostage-taking, etc.) explain only a small fraction of the disparity in prosecutors’ and juries’ decision to invoke the death penalty against black defendents.
Race was by far the most influential statistical factor.

https://www.uky.edu/AS/PoliSci/Peffley/ ... worthy.pdf
Analysis of the relationship between racial stereotyping and death sentence convictions.
Black defendants who possessed darker skin and more “stereotypically black” features were twice as likely to be given the death penalty when accused of murdering a white person, as compared to lighter-skinned blacks with less “stereotypically black” features.
This disparity disappears completely when the murder victim is black.

Implicit Bias

DOES APPEARANCE MATTER?: THE EFFECT OF SKIN TONES ON TRUSTWORTHY AND INNOCENT APPEARANCES
Photos of capital inmates shown to entry-level criminal justice students for them to evaluate the trustworthiness of the faces.
Students rated pictures of light-skinned inmates as more trustworthy when they preceded pictures of dark-skinned inmates.
Most study participants (79.9%) were white, but the study predicted that this wasn’t a major factor - “When controlling for race, no statistically significant result was found. This suggests that each race, White and non-White, were consistent in their rating outcomes. Prior research has found similar results, where Whites and light-skinned Blacks are likely to share similar attitudes towards darker-skinned Blacks”

Black Boys Viewed as Older, Less Innocent Than Whites, Research Finds
Students and police officers participated in tests to determine levels of racial bias and perception of innocence.
Black boys as young as 10 are more likely to be considered criminal or untrustworthy, and more likely to face police violence.
Police officers were tested on dehumanization of blacks by comparing people of different races to animal groups. Police who engaged in higher levels of dehumanization were more likely to use violence against black children.

Racial Bias in Judgments of Physical Size and Formidability
Results from three separate studies on perception and racial bias show people have a tendency to perceive black men as larger and more threatening than similarly sized white men.
Participants also believed the black men were more capable of causing harm in a hypothetical altercation and police would be more justified in using force to subdue them, even if the men were unarmed.

Queer People are Still Oppressed (and that’s why their suicide rate is higher)

https://assets2.hrc.org/files/assets/re ... 1523970534
2018 LGBTQ Youth Report
HUGE collection of data concerning difficulties LGBTQ people face
67% of LGBTQ youth hear their parents make negative statements about LGBTQ people - rises to 78% if child is in closet.
48% of LGBTQ youth say their family makes them feel bad for their identity
This pretty much ends the argument right here.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5178031/
Broad international study of trans suicide rate (it’s quite high).
“Gender-based victimization, discrimination, bullying, violence, being rejected by the family, friends, and community; harassment by intimate partner, family members, police and public; discrimination and ill treatment at health-care system are the major risk factors that influence the suicidal behavior among transgender persons”.
https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/ ... -Final.pdf
Massive demographic analysis which codifies the many social & institutional factors which contribute to trans suicide rates
Surprise surprise, discrimination & abuse play a huge role. Read the summary.
http://transpulseproject.ca/wp-content/ ... vFINAL.pdf
Analysis of the ways in which parental support affect elements of disadvantage experienced by transgender youth.
Most notably, strong parental support decreases the likelihood of a suicide attempt within the past year from 57% to just 4%.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.10 ... 018-0335-z
Analysis of crime & privacy violations as they relate to concerns raised by those who advocate for ‘trans bathroom bills’
Analysis indicates there is no empirical evidence to support these concerns; such crimes & privacy violations are exceptionally rare. Calls for trans bathroom bills are fearmongering, plain and simple.
https://mountainscholar.org/bitstream/h ... sAllowed=y
Interesting (and long) qualitative analysis on the depiction of transgender people in Sports Illustrated over past decades.
Finds disproportionately negative depictions (of course).
Worth reading; probably not going to win you an argument.
https://tgeu.org/wp-content/uploads/201 ... EU2019.pdf
16 countries in Europe & Central Asia still require sterilization before transgender peoples’ gender identity can be legally recognized
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation ... y-n1015236
News article - June 2019
Trump Administration rejecting requests from US embassies to fly the rainbow pride flag on embassies’ main banner during Pride Month
https://www.hrc.org/blog/new-report-on- ... onately-ex
LGBTQ youth are 120% (2.2x) as likely to experience homelessness as cisgender and heterosexual youth.
Up to 40% of the homeless youth population is LGBTQ
Cited possibility for this discrepancy being LGBTQ youth getting kicked out of the home by unwelcoming/openly hostile family.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_empl ... ted_States
LGBTQ employment discrimination is still far from a settled issue.
A point of note - in 2017, the Trump Administration used the Department of Justice to revoke an Obama-era Title VII policy which protected transgender employees from discrimination.

At least the right is honest and upfront about where they stand.

The right tried to stage a coup in the United States because their cult leaders lied to them about there being massive, systematic fraud in the 2020 election.

[Proctopeo]

"Falling behind" implies that other parts of the world are expanding their freedom of speech, which... isn't really the case. Rather, I'd say that the West is catching up with the rest of the world by expanding restrictions on civil liberties. That's not a good thing, mind.

[Shofercia]

Poland targets big tech with anti-censorship law

Social media companies that remove posts they deem offensive could face fines, Poland’s justice minister said on Friday, as a government that allied itself with U.S. President Donald Trump enacts a move it says will guarantee free speech.
https://www.reuters.com/article/poland- ... NL8N2JQ2QJ

With the rise in progressive censorship, 'deplatforming' and overall hypersensitive triggering restrictions by politicians, private companies and western governmental legislation, how reliable are the usual free-speech indexes? Are western countries still the most free in matters of speech?

Or can one live more freely in more corrupt and less individualistic but more conservative countries in Eastern Europe such as Poland or Russia?

The political system may not be as democratic but then old ladies are not visited or fined by the police for offensive facebook posts concerning trans people either... The private sector does not appear to be forced to exhibit rainbow flags or add political slogans to its advertising.

Are standards changing?

Good move by Poland, as technocrats shouldn't have more freedom than the government when it comes to online censorship.

The US is the freest when it comes to freedom of speech, and I doubt a couple of nerdy technocrats will change that.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Bruh it was the right wing who attacked the US on Jan 6th. Not the dems.

Yes? I never denied that. The fact still remains that many in the establishment wanted to do what they're saying they want to do now anyway and wanted an excuse.

Just saying, if you are looking for traitors and terrorists, look in the Trump cult and Q echo chamber.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Poland targets big tech with anti-censorship law

Social media companies that remove posts they deem offensive could face fines, Poland’s justice minister said on Friday, as a government that allied itself with U.S. President Donald Trump enacts a move it says will guarantee free speech.
https://www.reuters.com/article/poland- ... NL8N2JQ2QJ

With the rise in progressive censorship, 'deplatforming' and overall hypersensitive triggering restrictions by politicians, private companies and western governmental legislation, how reliable are the usual free-speech indexes? Are western countries still the most free in matters of speech?

Or can one live more freely in more corrupt and less individualistic but more conservative countries in Eastern Europe such as Poland or Russia?

The political system may not be as democratic but then old ladies are not visited or fined by the police for offensive facebook posts concerning trans people either... The private sector does not appear to be forced to exhibit rainbow flags or add political slogans to its advertising.

Are standards changing?

Good move by Poland, as technocrats shouldn't have more freedom than the government when it comes to online censorship.

The US is the freest when it comes to freedom of speech, and I doubt a couple of nerdy technocrats will change that.

So free that the US lets terrorists and traitors incite a terrorist attack that left two cops dead.

[A Thousand Islands]

Poland targets big tech with anti-censorship law

Social media companies that remove posts they deem offensive could face fines, Poland’s justice minister said on Friday, as a government that allied itself with U.S. President Donald Trump enacts a move it says will guarantee free speech.
https://www.reuters.com/article/poland- ... NL8N2JQ2QJ

With the rise in progressive censorship, 'deplatforming' and overall hypersensitive triggering restrictions by politicians, private companies and western governmental legislation, how reliable are the usual free-speech indexes? Are western countries still the most free in matters of speech?

Or can one live more freely in more corrupt and less individualistic but more conservative countries in Eastern Europe such as Poland or Russia?

The political system may not be as democratic but then old ladies are not visited or fined by the police for offensive facebook posts concerning trans people either... The private sector does not appear to be forced to exhibit rainbow flags or add political slogans to its advertising.

Are standards changing?

Good move by Poland, as technocrats shouldn't have more freedom than the government when it comes to online censorship.

The US is the freest when it comes to freedom of speech, and I doubt a couple of nerdy technocrats will change that.

Shouldn't a private business have the freedom to set their own standards?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Good move by Poland, as technocrats shouldn't have more freedom than the government when it comes to online censorship.

The US is the freest when it comes to freedom of speech, and I doubt a couple of nerdy technocrats will change that.

Shouldn't a private business have the right to set their own standards?

When it comes to baning a gay couple from a bakery they say yes private business should have it's right to refuse service. When it comes to dear leader Trump inciting terrorist attacks, suddenly free market shouldn't right to refuse service.

Convenient how the right wing position can change on a dime like that to lick Trump's boots?

And when it comes to the anti sjw wet dream of Poland, that just makes everything even better.

[Adamede]

Good move by Poland, as technocrats shouldn't have more freedom than the government when it comes to online censorship.

The US is the freest when it comes to freedom of speech, and I doubt a couple of nerdy technocrats will change that.

So free that the US lets terrorists and traitors incite a terrorist attack that left two cops dead.

Don’t know if you noticed but they’re currently arresting people for that.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

So free that the US lets terrorists and traitors incite a terrorist attack that left two cops dead.

Don’t know if you noticed but they’re currently arresting people for that.

When they aren't letting them go on vacation to Mexico.

[Adamede]

Don’t know if you noticed but they’re currently arresting people for that.

When they aren't letting them go on vacation to Mexico.

I didn’t see where it said that they let her go to Mexico.

[A Thousand Islands]

I feel like I should point out here that a lot of social media sites don't just go around picking and choosing posts to remove and people to ban; posts usually have to reported by somebody before they're removed, otherwise the site wouldn't even know they existed or were violating the rules. If a person is having that much trouble, they could just set the profile to private and only let in people who wouldn't report or maybe try to figure out why they keep running afoul of the rules.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

When they aren't letting them go on vacation to Mexico.

I didn’t see where it said that they let her go to Mexico.

my bad I used the wrong link

"Ah don't worry about being a terrorist, you can go to Mexico for a vacay! This court orders you to have fun!" -fed judge leting a fucking traitor and terrorist go on vacation

[Adamede]

I didn’t see where it said that they let her go to Mexico.

my bad I used the wrong link

"Ah don't worry about being a terrorist, you can go to Mexico for a vacay! This court orders you to have fun!" -fed judge leting a fucking traitor and terrorist go on vacation

Should’ve gone with more than just 2 misdemeanors then.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

my bad I used the wrong link

"Ah don't worry about being a terrorist, you can go to Mexico for a vacay! This court orders you to have fun!" -fed judge leting a fucking traitor and terrorist go on vacation

Should’ve gone with more than just 2 misdemeanors then.

They did add more charges later.

The judge is a Trump appointee and by the looks of it a licker of terrorist boots.

The only place south of the border she belongs is Guantanamo Bay with the rest of her terrorist ilk.