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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:43 pm

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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Which series are you talking about?

The wedding of river song for who
For Juile: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titus_(film)

Im never really got in to any of the river song doctor who episodes honestly. I don't know why, because I like her in big finish.
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Postby Jello Biafra » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:43 pm

Celritannia wrote:This really depends on the show.
Perhaps you think they are underepresented on the shows you watched, but you would have to watch every single British TV show in order to actually show this is the case.
In fact, with the number of TV shows in the UK, Caucasian hetero males and females are still the major groups in most British TV shows.

Yes. Ostroeuropa says that white people make up 77% of the characters on British TV shows, but that this is not enough.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:44 pm

Ayytaly wrote:
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I'm happy to accept the wage gap in a broader context.namely that men are paid less than women until a man and a woman partner up, at which point two options occur. The man can receive a massive pay cut to care for the kids, or the woman can receive a substantial, though lesser, pay cut to do so
The clear result there is that men taking time off to be parents is undervalued by society. That is the root cause of the inequality.


Which alternative root cause do you propose for these issues?


Congrats! You actually made a reasonable point! Too bad you're a bit of an ethnic nepotistic dinosaur.


Dude I'm way less confident on race issues than gender issues, but I'll argue them because I'm bored of victory.
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Postby Heloin » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:44 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Heloin wrote:What the hell is "Hamlet in Africa"? The only thing's I'm finding are stage productions of Hamlet, in Africa. I doubt you're suggesting that productions of Hamlet can only take place in Denmark.

Hang on I'll try and find it. This was at the lowry in Manchester. I'm pretty sure this is a review.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... w-14226324

So it's an alright looking adaptation of Hamlet, that like millions before, isn't 100% faithful.

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:45 pm

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Celritannia wrote:This really depends on the show.
Perhaps you think they are underepresented on the shows you watched, but you would have to watch every single British TV show in order to actually show this is the case.
In fact, with the number of TV shows in the UK, Caucasian hetero males and females are still the major groups in most British TV shows.

Yes. Ostroeuropa says that white people make up 77% of the characters on British TV shows, but that this is not enough.

Lovely way to misrepresent what he's saying, well done. He's saying that BAME actors, as well as lgbt characters, are over-represented.
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Postby Ayytaly » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:45 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:They don't. They call it 'hamlet.'

Yes, Hamlet in Africa is Hamlet. I still don't see the point.

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I wouldn't say its worse nor better. Different. + It's like the concept of traitor has slipped your mind. Capitalism incentivise cash. Blacks sold blacks I to slavery similarly, as a more extreme example. The key is social and legal bans on these treacherous and abuses and exploitation where they cause inequality..


so capitalism incentivises money, and most money by sheer volume is held by whites, and poverty is most present among minorities, and it does not make economical sense to cater to minorities instead of white people...

And yet you believe capitalism somehow is anti-white? Have you seen what the richest people on earth look like?


It's not capitalism, it's ethnic nepotism permeating job opportunitues. It also depends on the position offered. The higher the position (and therefore higher pay), the less likely the position is taken by a minority. However, this can be blamed on the minority's culture as well.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:45 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:"Traitors to white culture"
Lmao, not even trying to hide your racial tribalism and total ignorance anymore. Only took you 10 pages, is that a new record?


The capitalist would as soon institute an anti white regime as a national socialist one. Whatever helps profit. Ll you progs pretending not to understand this is unconvincing and shows your desperation to avoid the observation. I'll say it AGAIN, yea, the capitalist is a traitor. Not must to their race but to all ,mankind if needs be for a dollar.

An anti white regime in the west (or anywhere for that matter) is not profitable. How would it be?
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:46 pm

Heloin wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Hang on I'll try and find it. This was at the lowry in Manchester. I'm pretty sure this is a review.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... w-14226324

So it's an alright looking adaptation of Hamlet, that like millions before, isn't 100% faithful.

It wasn't slightly faithful.
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Postby Great Franconia and Verana » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:46 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Heloin wrote:What the hell is "Hamlet in Africa"? The only thing's I'm finding are stage productions of Hamlet, in Africa. I doubt you're suggesting that productions of Hamlet can only take place in Denmark.

Hang on I'll try and find it. This was at the lowry in Manchester. I'm pretty sure this is a review.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... w-14226324

Art is open to interpretation though is it not?

I mean, Shakespeare wrote these works almost four centuries ago. Don't you think we have seen the traditional telling quite enough?

Don't get me wrong, a good Shakespeare performance with the great stage actors of the day is brilliant. But is it that wrong to want to put a twist on something so familiar? And if it bothers you that much, why not just ignore it, not watch it, and stick with the traditional tellings?

No one is forcing anyone to watch TV shows, or plays, with diverse casts. If thats not your cup of tea, dont watch.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:46 pm

Jello Biafra wrote:
Celritannia wrote:This really depends on the show.
Perhaps you think they are underepresented on the shows you watched, but you would have to watch every single British TV show in order to actually show this is the case.
In fact, with the number of TV shows in the UK, Caucasian hetero males and females are still the major groups in most British TV shows.

Yes. Ostroeuropa says that white people make up 77% of the characters on British TV shows, but that this is not enough.


Sudden interw3ctional illiteracy when being intersectional would reveal white male disadvantage. Hmmmm....

Suppose there were 0 white women on TV. Your argument would be the same, right?
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Postby Heloin » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:47 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Heloin wrote:So it's an alright looking adaptation of Hamlet, that like millions before, isn't 100% faithful.

It wasn't slightly faithful.

There was a skull. That's close enough.

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Postby Jello Biafra » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:47 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Jello Biafra wrote:Yes. Ostroeuropa says that white people make up 77% of the characters on British TV shows, but that this is not enough.

Lovely way to misrepresent what he's saying, well done. He's saying that BAME actors, as well as lgbt characters, are over-represented.

And also that white people, and in particular, white males, are underrepresented.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:47 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
The capitalist would as soon institute an anti white regime as a national socialist one. Whatever helps profit. Ll you progs pretending not to understand this is unconvincing and shows your desperation to avoid the observation. I'll say it AGAIN, yea, the capitalist is a traitor. Not must to their race but to all ,mankind if needs be for a dollar.

An anti white regime in the west (or anywhere for that matter) is not profitable. How would it be?


Self destructive woke nonsense.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:48 pm

Great Franconia and Verana wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Hang on I'll try and find it. This was at the lowry in Manchester. I'm pretty sure this is a review.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... w-14226324

Art is open to interpretation though is it not?

I mean, Shakespeare wrote these works almost four centuries ago. Don't you think we have seen the traditional telling quite enough?

Don't get me wrong, a good Shakespeare performance with the great stage actors of the day is brilliant. But is it that wrong to want to put a twist on something so familiar? And if it bothers you that much, why not just ignore it, not watch it, and stick with the traditional tellings?

No one is forcing anyone to watch TV shows, or plays, with diverse casts. If thats not your cup of tea, dont watch.

It's pretty difficult to find a telling of hamlet that's not am dram that is faithful to the original.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:48 pm

Jello Biafra wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Lovely way to misrepresent what he's saying, well done. He's saying that BAME actors, as well as lgbt characters, are over-represented.

And also that white people, and in particular, white males, are underrepresented.


That is a statistical fact.
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:48 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:An anti white regime in the west (or anywhere for that matter) is not profitable. How would it be?


Self destructive woke nonsense.

Still no evidence for this, unsurprisingly.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:49 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Jello Biafra wrote:Yes. Ostroeuropa says that white people make up 77% of the characters on British TV shows, but that this is not enough.


Sudden interw3ctional illiteracy when being intersectional would reveal white male disadvantage. Hmmmm....

Suppose there were 0 white women on TV. Your argument would be the same, right?

The argument '77% is enough' would not work for 0%, no.

77% is not 0%.
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Postby Jello Biafra » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:49 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Jello Biafra wrote:Yes. Ostroeuropa says that white people make up 77% of the characters on British TV shows, but that this is not enough.


Sudden interw3ctional illiteracy when being intersectional would reveal white male disadvantage. Hmmmm....

Suppose there were 0 white women on TV. Your argument would be the same, right?

No. It would also not be the same if there were 0 white men on TV.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:49 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Self destructive woke nonsense.

Still no evidence for this, unsurprisingly.


Proof in the pudding?.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:50 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:An anti white regime in the west (or anywhere for that matter) is not profitable. How would it be?


Self destructive woke nonsense.

That is not even close to an answer.
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:53 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Still no evidence for this, unsurprisingly.


Proof in the pudding?.

Pudding which you have failed to even refrigerate, much less set out on the table.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:53 pm

Jello Biafra wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Sudden interw3ctional illiteracy when being intersectional would reveal white male disadvantage. Hmmmm....

Suppose there were 0 white women on TV. Your argument would be the same, right?

No. It would also not be the same if there were 0 white men on TV.


So why bring up the 77% number unless you're being dishonest? How many are white males? Less than there are in society is the answer.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:55 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Proof in the pudding?.

Pudding which you have failed to even refrigerate, much less set out on the table.



I domt actually need to. A super majority acceet it is true already.
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Postby All Wild Things » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:59 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:-stuff-


I know, right? It's awful. It's the same in those nature documentaries. There are certain species that are simply overrepresented on the BBC. Like pandas, polar bears, and snow leopards. These are rare species, but get a disproportionate amount of air time. Where are all the sparrows, rabbits, and house flies?

*sigh*. Sometimes I wonder why I pay my license fee...
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Postby Jello Biafra » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:59 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Jello Biafra wrote:No. It would also not be the same if there were 0 white men on TV.


So why bring up the 77% number unless you're being dishonest? How many are white males? Less than there are in society is the answer.

Subtracting the representation of women would result in about 36.2% being white males. This wouldn't be an exact number, because I don't know if white women are proportionally represented or not.

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