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Postby Neutraligon » Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:47 pm

Keep it related to Uganda you guy.
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Postby Risottia » Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:08 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Risottia wrote:It's even better if the gun is held by another Ugandan. These days, if a European says "human rights are being violated" the standard answer is "shuddup ya neocolonialist".


The forces of social justice can stand over a dead black child and say "well at least he was killed by a person who looked like him"

people like me find no comfort in that fact


That's what happens when people label as "neocolonialism" an action to affirm human rights.

It's happening all over Africa and Asia. You bet that the first European nation that will say "hey Uganda how about not killing your people for being gay" will be called "a filthy imperialist who wants to sap and impurify the Ugandan heterosexual blood".
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Postby Purpelia » Sun Oct 13, 2019 10:54 pm

Risottia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
The forces of social justice can stand over a dead black child and say "well at least he was killed by a person who looked like him"

people like me find no comfort in that fact


That's what happens when people label as "neocolonialism" an action to affirm human rights.

It's happening all over Africa and Asia. You bet that the first European nation that will say "hey Uganda how about not killing your people for being gay" will be called "a filthy imperialist who wants to sap and impurify the Ugandan heterosexual blood".

No. They will be called a filthy imperialist who wishes to force the sovereign population of Uganda to reneg on their human right to self determination and instead accept under duress and at knife point foreign cultural values. How would you feel if a foreign power barged into your country and demanded you make cultural changes to fit with their morality?

Fact of the matter is it's simple. Our right to live in western liberal societies is based upon the right to self determination. And we must therefore protect that right even when it is used in ways we find displeasing. Because once you make a precedent for people loosing a right every time they "misuse" it it stops being a right at all. And soon everyone looses it in the name of some cause or the other.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Sun Oct 13, 2019 10:56 pm

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Why would they care about being a Chinese colony compared to a Western one? China isn't going to give a shit and Chinese money is as good as western money these days. Face facts, the only way human rights are getting enforced is at the barrel of a gun.

It's even better if the gun is held by another Ugandan. These days, if a European says "human rights are being violated" the standard answer is "shuddup ya neocolonialist".


Well duh. Only the West* is neurotic enough to actually invade a country over ideology.


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Postby Bear Stearns » Sun Oct 13, 2019 10:59 pm

Risottia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
The forces of social justice can stand over a dead black child and say "well at least he was killed by a person who looked like him"

people like me find no comfort in that fact


That's what happens when people label as "neocolonialism" an action to affirm human rights.

It's happening all over Africa and Asia. You bet that the first European nation that will say "hey Uganda how about not killing your people for being gay" will be called "a filthy imperialist who wants to sap and impurify the Ugandan heterosexual blood".


Most Europeans will find 90% of Ugandan cultural practices to be barbaric and disgusting, not just their treatment of gays.

They just don't care enough to go down there and force them to change (assuming that is something that can be done). And why should they?
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Postby Duhon » Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:02 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Risottia wrote:
That's what happens when people label as "neocolonialism" an action to affirm human rights.

It's happening all over Africa and Asia. You bet that the first European nation that will say "hey Uganda how about not killing your people for being gay" will be called "a filthy imperialist who wants to sap and impurify the Ugandan heterosexual blood".


Most Europeans will find 90% of Ugandan cultural practices to be barbaric and disgusting, not just their treatment of gays.

They just don't care enough to go down there and force them to change (assuming that is something that can be done). And why should they?


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Postby Empire of Ur » Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:31 am

Bear Stearns wrote:
Risottia wrote:
That's what happens when people label as "neocolonialism" an action to affirm human rights.

It's happening all over Africa and Asia. You bet that the first European nation that will say "hey Uganda how about not killing your people for being gay" will be called "a filthy imperialist who wants to sap and impurify the Ugandan heterosexual blood".


Most Europeans will find 90% of Ugandan cultural practices to be barbaric and disgusting, not just their treatment of gays.

They just don't care enough to go down there and force them to change (assuming that is something that can be done). And why should they?

Calling a cultural practice "barbaric" is the matter of opion and europeans certanly have no right to change and destroy outher cultures becuase they think they are "barbaric".
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:33 am

Empire of Ur wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
Most Europeans will find 90% of Ugandan cultural practices to be barbaric and disgusting, not just their treatment of gays.

They just don't care enough to go down there and force them to change (assuming that is something that can be done). And why should they?

Calling a cultural practice "barbaric" is the matter of opion and europeans certanly have no right to change and destroy outher cultures becuase they think they are "barbaric".

My culture is not just different than one that kills gays, it's better. Enough with this cultural relativism. Just because a culture exists does not mean it is worth preserving.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:39 am

Empire of Ur wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
Most Europeans will find 90% of Ugandan cultural practices to be barbaric and disgusting, not just their treatment of gays.

They just don't care enough to go down there and force them to change (assuming that is something that can be done). And why should they?

Calling a cultural practice "barbaric" is the matter of opion and europeans certanly have no right to change and destroy outher cultures becuase they think they are "barbaric".

I mean. They were the ones who made it homophobic in the first place.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:42 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Empire of Ur wrote:Calling a cultural practice "barbaric" is the matter of opion and europeans certanly have no right to change and destroy outher cultures becuase they think they are "barbaric".

My culture is not just different than one that kills gays, it's better. Enough with this cultural relativism. Just because a culture exists does not mean it is worth preserving.

Doesn't your culture still have discrimination and hate crimes against gay people? Isn't it elements of your culture that is promoting these laws in Uganda?
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:38 am

Invade Uganda, Gulf War style

That's my solution
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:45 am

Hammer Britannia wrote:Invade Uganda, Gulf War style

That's my solution

How about no

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Postby Andsed » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:53 am

Hammer Britannia wrote:Invade Uganda, Gulf War style

That's my solution

Nah. I think simply placing embargo’s on Uganda and cutting off aid until they reverse this utterly disgusting and barbaric law is a much better solution.
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Postby Diopolis » Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:55 pm

Uganda is right to make sodomy a capital offense in law, but I’m concerned that this will lead to differential enforcement- after all, heterosexual sodomy is a greater degeneration from the natural order.
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Postby Mettaton-EX » Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:59 pm

Diopolis wrote:Uganda is right to make sodomy a capital offense in law, but I’m concerned that this will lead to differential enforcement- after all, heterosexual sodomy is a greater degeneration from the natural order.

this "natural order" sounds like it suuuuuuuucks
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Postby Andsed » Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:01 pm

Diopolis wrote:Uganda is right to make sodomy a capital offense in law, but I’m concerned that this will lead to differential enforcement- after all, heterosexual sodomy is a greater degeneration from the natural order.

Are you seriously agreeing with killing people because they fuck someone who is the same gender as them? :eyebrow: You do understand that killing someone for having consensual relations with another person is idiotic right?
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Postby Page » Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:03 pm

Diopolis wrote:Uganda is right to make sodomy a capital offense in law, but I’m concerned that this will lead to differential enforcement- after all, heterosexual sodomy is a greater degeneration from the natural order.


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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:05 pm

Diopolis wrote:Uganda is right to make sodomy a capital offense in law, but I’m concerned that this will lead to differential enforcement- after all, heterosexual sodomy is a greater degeneration from the natural order.

It shouldn't be a crime, let alone a capital one.

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Postby Diopolis » Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:06 pm

Andsed wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Uganda is right to make sodomy a capital offense in law, but I’m concerned that this will lead to differential enforcement- after all, heterosexual sodomy is a greater degeneration from the natural order.

Are you seriously agreeing with killing people because they fuck someone who is the same gender as them? :eyebrow: You do understand that killing someone for having consensual relations with another person is idiotic right?

Sodomy is horrifically evil regardless of consent or gender.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:07 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Andsed wrote:Are you seriously agreeing with killing people because they fuck someone who is the same gender as them? :eyebrow: You do understand that killing someone for having consensual relations with another person is idiotic right?

Sodomy is horrifically evil regardless of consent or gender.

Because an outdated holly book says so?

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Postby Loben The 2nd » Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:09 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Sodomy is horrifically evil regardless of consent or gender.

Because an outdated holly book says so?


wow, calling the Bible Oudated, aint you just the intellectually honest one?
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Postby Andsed » Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:09 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Andsed wrote:Are you seriously agreeing with killing people because they fuck someone who is the same gender as them? :eyebrow: You do understand that killing someone for having consensual relations with another person is idiotic right?

Sodomy is horrifically evil regardless of consent or gender.

Utter nonsense. Sodomy is just anal or oral sex. There is nothing wrong with two consenting adults choosing to have sex either anally or orally. Suggesting otherwise is just silly talk.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:10 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Because an outdated holly book says so?


wow, calling the Bible Oudated, aint you just the intellectually honest one?

It's my opinion. Triggered?

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Postby Page » Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:11 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Andsed wrote:Are you seriously agreeing with killing people because they fuck someone who is the same gender as them? :eyebrow: You do understand that killing someone for having consensual relations with another person is idiotic right?

Sodomy is horrifically evil regardless of consent or gender.


Please, go ahead and give a secular explanation of how a sex act between consenting adults can be horrifically evil.
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:11 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:
wow, calling the Bible Oudated, aint you just the intellectually honest one?

It's my opinion. Triggered?


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