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Lizardiar wrote:Why don't you people get it?! There will always be conflicts, whether that's a school fight or a full-blown war with another nation. It's human nature people!

History repeats itself.

Conserative Morality wrote:

Lizardiar wrote:Why don't you people get it?! There will always be conflicts, whether that's a school fight or a full-blown war with another nation. It's human nature people!

History repeats itself.

I don't know if this in contradicting me, but QFT.

Surote wrote:Do you think it's good to send your kid to a religous schools and would you do it?

I think to many people brainwash there kids and I would never do that to my child.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6865just in case you want to see

I'd rather teach my child not to listen to everything the teacher says and get a good education, than have a shitty public school education. I won't send my child to public school, I'll find a way to avoid that when I have a child, if I have one.

I'd probably send him to a non-religious private school, if I could, until he's old enough to comprehend the basic ideas of most religious beliefs.

At that point, I'd ask him to consider, and offer him a chance to share his opinion. If he didn't want to, I'd have no problem. If he wanted to, I'd gladly send him there.

And like I said, I'd teach my child to do what I would do--respect the teacher's words, but then form your own opinions.

If I ever found out the teacher was enforcing an ideology that my child didn't agree with, I'd deal with the teacher face to face, and/or pull my child out of the school.

Lancaster of Wessex wrote:"Brainwashing?" Is that what non-religious folks have taken to calling people of faith? Come on.

It's a contentious phrase, but it's not unfair. The Bible tells Christians to indoctrinate kids, because they'll stay conditioned as adults.

If it were anything but religion, we'd call it brainwashing. Indeed, if it were a 'cult' religion, we'd STILL call it brainwashing. Some people just don't believe in pleading special exception for organised religions - they call it what it is.

Lizardiar wrote:I don't know if this in contradicting me, but QFT.

It's agreeing with you.

Conserative Morality wrote:

Lizardiar wrote:I don't know if this in contradicting me, but QFT.

It's agreeing with you.

O..k.... ....what do you want now?

Lizardiar wrote:

Conserative Morality wrote:

Lizardiar wrote:I don't know if this in contradicting me, but QFT.

It's agreeing with you.

O..k.... ....what do you want now?

probably a cookie...

Dyakovo wrote:probably a cookie...

Psh, Why settle for less?

Push for cake!

Maurepas wrote:

Dyakovo wrote:probably a cookie...

Psh, Why settle for less?

Push for cake!

The cake is a lie.

Rhodmhire wrote:

Surote wrote:Do you think it's good to send your kid to a religous schools and would you do it?

I think to many people brainwash there kids and I would never do that to my child.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6865just in case you want to see

I'd rather teach my child not to listen to everything the teacher says and get a good education, than have a shitty public school education. I won't send my child to public school, I'll find a way to avoid that when I have a child, if I have one.

I'd probably send him to a non-religious private school, if I could, until he's old enough to comprehend the basic ideas of most religious beliefs.

At that point, I'd ask him to consider, and offer him a chance to share his opinion. If he didn't want to, I'd have no problem. If he wanted to, I'd gladly send him there.

And like I said, I'd teach my child to do what I would do--respect the teacher's words, but then form your own opinions.

If I ever found out the teacher was enforcing an ideology that my child didn't agree with, I'd deal with the teacher face to face, and/or pull my child out of the school.

Hell, if your expectations for your kid are that high, it really shouldn't matter if they're in public school.

I disagree with religious schools. An insular upbringing is harmful to the child and prevents them developing a rounded, nuanced view of the world and importantly, it's other inhabitants.

Lizardiar wrote:O..k.... ....what do you want now?

Merely clarifying.

Jordaxia wrote:I disagree with religious schools. An insular upbringing is harmful to the child and prevents them developing a rounded, nuanced view of the world and importantly, it's other inhabitants.

This is a reason why I don't like religious schools, although they probably aren't all like that. I'm not totally against the idea of religious schools, but I wouldn't want to go to one.

Jordaxia wrote:I disagree with religious schools. An insular upbringing is harmful to the child and prevents them developing a rounded, nuanced view of the world and importantly, it's other inhabitants.

Can't they get such interactions outside of a school setting through sports, clubs, etc. There is nothing to say that school is the only place for this.

Honestly, I would never send my kid to a religious school. Mainly because I doubt I'll agree with their curriculum about abstinence only education, and how evolution is a lie, and how Wicca and other forms of Paganism is devil worship.

Although I do like the schoolgirl outfit.

Sidebody wrote:

Jordaxia wrote:I disagree with religious schools. An insular upbringing is harmful to the child and prevents them developing a rounded, nuanced view of the world and importantly, it's other inhabitants.

Can't they get such interactions outside of a school setting through sports, clubs, etc. There is nothing to say that school is the only place for this.

True. Some schools, however, are kind of controlling: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30669405/?GT1=43001

From the article wrote:his fundamentalist Baptist school Ohio forbids dancing, rock music and hand-holding

Wilgrove wrote:Honestly, I would never send my kid to a religious school. Mainly because I doubt I'll agree with their curriculum about abstinence only education, and how evolution is a lie, and how Wicca and other forms of Paganism is devil worship.

Although I do like the schoolgirl outfit.

the thought that a someone would send their kid to a school like that because they like the way the uniform looks...

Im not sure whether to or ...maybe both,

Wilgrove wrote:Honestly, I would never send my kid to a religious school. Mainly because I doubt I'll agree with their curriculum about abstinence only education, and how evolution is a lie, and how Wicca and other forms of Paganism is devil worship.

Although I do like the schoolgirl outfit.

yeah but nothing makes you feel like more of a perv (when you arent one) than checking out your child's classmates.

My kids are now too old to go to school (unless they want to). But, if I had had the money at the time, or if I had been aware of scholarships, I would have sent them to a religious school in a heartbeat.

Where they grew up, the quality of education in public schools was abysmal. It would have taken less effort on my part to counter the religious propaganda offered in the private schools than it took for me to counter the effects of incompetent teachers, crowded classrooms, inadequate supplies and books and schoolyard violence in the public schools.

When my daughter got into graduate school, the best one available in her subject was, not surprisingly, Loma Linda University - a religious school. They public schools teaching graduate level epidemiology (specifically UCLA) were not only more style than substance, they ignored her application while Loma Linda practically dragged her in (they did not attempt to convert her at all, since they were more interested in teaching than evangelizing).

And, since Vatican II, Catholic schools have been hiring more high quality non-religious teachers from all backgrounds - my sister, a Wiccan, taught American Literature at a parochial high school in the Bay Area for a couple of decades.

Sidebody wrote:Can't they get such interactions outside of a school setting through sports, clubs, etc. There is nothing to say that school is the only place for this.

No, but school is where you spend most of your time when you're a child, and so is where you actually get most of your information about the world. So it's more likely to leave a negative impact that extracurricular activities cannot totally erase.

Anti-Social Darwinism wrote:My kids are now too old to go to school (unless they want to). But, if I had had the money at the time, or if I had been aware of scholarships, I would have sent them to a religious school in a heartbeat.

Where they grew up, the quality of education in public schools was abysmal. It would have taken less effort on my part to counter the religious propaganda offered in the private schools than it took for me to counter the effects of incompetent teachers, crowded classrooms, inadequate supplies and books and schoolyard violence in the public schools.

When my daughter got into graduate school, the best one available in her subject was, not surprisingly, Loma Linda University - a religious school. They public schools teaching graduate level epidemiology (specifically UCLA) were not only more style than substance, they ignored her application while Loma Linda practically dragged her in (they did not attempt to convert her at all, since they were more interested in teaching than evangelizing).

And, since Vatican II, Catholic schools have been hiring more high quality non-religious teachers from all backgrounds - my sister, a Wiccan, taught American Literature at a parochial high school in the Bay Area for a couple of decades.

Thats the way it is in the Delta Here, brings the whole State down, the Public Schools on the coast are quite nice, but, go north of Hattiesburg and everythings about abysmal...

I went to Catholic school for several years. It was a crappy school and I hated it. The teachers were largely incompetent, and several of them taught things as fact that were flatly untrue. It had exactly one thing going for it - it was a great deal better than the public school I would have been going to otherwise.

So, y'know, in an ideal world, I'd never have gone to Catholic school, and I'd never send my children to such a school, but in the real world, my parents sent me to the best school they could afford, and until I got old enough to earn a scholarship to the very good secular private school in the area, Catholic school was the best they could do. If I'd been in their shoes, I would have made the same decision.

Poliwanacraca wrote:I went to Catholic school for several years. It was a crappy school and I hated it. The teachers were largely incompetent, and several of them taught things as fact that were flatly untrue. It had exactly one thing going for it - it was a great deal better than the public school I would have been going to otherwise.

So, y'know, in an ideal world, I'd never have gone to Catholic school, and I'd never send my children to such a school, but in the real world, my parents sent me to the best school they could afford, and until I got old enough to earn a scholarship to the very good secular private school in the area, Catholic school was the best they could do. If I'd been in their shoes, I would have made the same decision.

I think their decision was the best they could have made, but I despair of the society in which it was a necessary one. Financial stratification of education is something I'm acutely aware of, and the ethics (or lack of them) repulse me. This is why I don't like religious schools, and why I don't like private schools either, but I'm trying not to stray into that topic as it's not the one being discussed.

Surote wrote:Do you think it's good to send your kid to a religous schools and would you do it?

I think to many people brainwash there kids and I would never do that to my child.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6865just in case you want to see

Even if I were Catholic, the nearest Catholic school is probably the foulest nest of drugs and debauchery in the area. No, that's not enough to sell me on it.

Little Goofball starts 2nd grade this September and I intend to continue supplementing his and my younger children's educations myself despite the outrageous suggestion by his 1st grade teacher last hear that I not so my son doesn't get too far ahead. Can you believe that shit?!?

Lancaster of Wessex wrote:

Surote wrote:Do you think it's good to send your kid to a religous schools and would you do it?

I think to many people brainwash there kids and I would never do that to my child.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6865just in case you want to see

"Brainwashing?" Is that what non-religious folks have taken to calling people of faith? Come on.

If responsible, normal, religious individuals want to send their child to a school that happens to teach their religious view point in a responsible, non-radicalized, otherwise normal school environment, then yes.

What's the problem? They're not harming you in any way.

It's brainwashing them when there young to believe in something