NationStates

Mike the Progressive wrote:Lots of leather boots and whips.

I'm sure you know plenty about that.

We'd still have Karelia, in addition to East Karelia and Kola Peninsula. Social democratic tyranny would've never reached Finland, and we'd be a prospering right-wing democracy.

Yeah, that's Finland. The rest of Europe might not be so well off.

Hippostania wrote: we'd be a prospering right-wing democracy.

If the Nazis and Japanese won?

You're adorable.

Hippostania wrote:We'd still have Karelia, in addition to East Karelia and Kola Peninsula. Social democratic tyranny would've never reached Finland, and we'd be a prospering right-wing democracy.

Yeah, that's Finland. The rest of Europe might not be so well off.

Are you really sure of that?

Choronzon wrote:

Hippostania wrote: we'd be a prospering right-wing democracy.

If the Nazis and Japanese won?

You're adorable.

Uh-huh?

Finland has long democratic traditions and we never officially allied ourselves with the nazis.

Bloody awful.

Hippostania wrote:

Choronzon wrote:If the Nazis and Japanese won?

You're adorable.

Uh-huh?

Finland has long democratic traditions and we never officially allied ourselves with the nazis.

Why should that stop them?

Duvniask wrote:

Hippostania wrote:We'd still have Karelia, in addition to East Karelia and Kola Peninsula. Social democratic tyranny would've never reached Finland, and we'd be a prospering right-wing democracy.

Yeah, that's Finland. The rest of Europe might not be so well off.

Are you really sure of that?

He's correct both territory and right-wing wise, but about the rest... I personally think we'd have ended finlandized towards Germany.

Duvniask wrote:

Hippostania wrote:Uh-huh?

Finland has long democratic traditions and we never officially allied ourselves with the nazis.

Why should that stop them?

Stop them? Why would they have to be "stopped"? Finland co-operated with Nazi Germany, what reason would they have to mess with us?

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:

The Whispers wrote:Nobody knows, and no matter how many times this question is asked, it never becomes more interesting.

I dunno, The Man in the High Castle is a pretty interesting book.

Fatherland has a similar setting, too.

Hippostania wrote:

Choronzon wrote:If the Nazis and Japanese won?

You're adorable.

Uh-huh?

Finland has long democratic traditions and we never officially allied ourselves with the nazis.

because that would stop them, I'm sure.

"We're neutral"

"Don't care. Gime ur vodka."

Jetan wrote:

Duvniask wrote:Are you really sure of that?

He's correct both territory and right-wing wise, but about the rest... I personally think we'd have ended finlandized towards Germany.

Maybe even shipping off Jews as well...

Hippostania wrote:

Duvniask wrote:
Why should that stop them?

Stop them? Why would they have to be "stopped"? Finland co-operated with Nazi Germany, what reason would they have to mess with us?

Are you kidding me?

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:

The Whispers wrote:Nobody knows, and no matter how many times this question is asked, it never becomes more interesting.

I dunno, The Man in the High Castle is a pretty interesting book.

One of my favorite books! Although not as good of an alternate history as Fatherland.

Jagalonia wrote:

Ifreann wrote:Hitler'd probably be dead by now, though.

Good. He was impure.

That damn Austrian.

@OP: Meh. Doesn't matter.
'Merica and its allies prevailed

I honestly can't imagine Nazi Germany and Japan would be able to get on well with each other for very long, and we'd probably end up with another world war.

Horrible. Unless Italy had the most power. Then it would be a glorious transition back into the Roman Empire.
That's just my cultural and traditional bias speaking. It would be horrible either way...
although I do secretly long for the return of the Roman Empire, no matter how communist I am.

Condunum wrote:

Hippostania wrote:Stop them? Why would they have to be "stopped"? Finland co-operated with Nazi Germany, what reason would they have to mess with us?

Are you kidding me?

I am not.

Yeah, we would've been finlandized, but instead of the Soviets we'd be bowing to the Germans. The fact that you think that Germany would just come to their ally and say "remoove demokrashy nao" shows that you know nothing about Finnish history.

Agritum wrote:

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:I dunno, The Man in the High Castle is a pretty interesting book.

Fatherland has a similar setting, too.

There's also a novel by C.J. Sansom which follows a similar idea called Dominion.

This reminds me of someone who said after Hitler died, that the "liberal Himmler" would have come to power and made it better for the Slavs, Jews, Gypsies, etc.

Obviously the Slavs being sacrificed by Himmler in the name of fucking Odin or some such shit wouldn't have found him liberal.

Hippostania wrote:We'd still have Karelia, in addition to East Karelia and Kola Peninsula. Social democratic tyranny would've never reached Finland, and we'd be a prospering right-wing democracy.

Yeah, that's Finland. The rest of Europe might not be so well off.

Is it too late to become Finnish?

Also, I live in the State of Georgia in the US. Best case I believe that we would be a second rate nation compared to the Superpower status of Germany and Japan. Worst case we are run by Germany....

Tagmatium wrote:

Jetan wrote:He's correct both territory and right-wing wise, but about the rest... I personally think we'd have ended finlandized towards Germany.

Maybe even shipping off Jews as well...

Fun fact: When Hitler asked Mannerheim if the Finnish jew problem was solved yet, Mannerheim said that there is no Jewish problem in Finland. Finland also refused to hand over jews to Nazi Germany (with the exception of three German refugees).

Duvniask wrote:

Hippostania wrote:We'd still have Karelia, in addition to East Karelia and Kola Peninsula. Social democratic tyranny would've never reached Finland, and we'd be a prospering right-wing democracy.

Yeah, that's Finland. The rest of Europe might not be so well off.

Are you really sure of that?

What is wrong with social democracy? Finland is prosperous now, as well as number one in science and math education.

Tagmatium wrote:

Jetan wrote:He's correct both territory and right-wing wise, but about the rest... I personally think we'd have ended finlandized towards Germany.

Maybe even shipping off Jews as well...

That one I actually doubt. We managed to hold our own on that regard pretty well (only one incident, and that was done by a rogue policeman). There might be incidents (like the RL one) but overall I think that would not have happened.

Valourium wrote:

Duvniask wrote:
Are you really sure of that?

What is wrong with social democracy? Finland is prosperous now, as well as number one in science and math education.

Economic stagnation and tyranny, the state is a bloated and inefficient bureaucratic morass, success is punished and failure is rewarded.

And number one education system? Yeah, right. Our education system was directly copied from the German Democratic Republic; our system promotes memorization and punishes critical thinking. The only thing that the Finnish education system does well is produce obidient slaves for the social democratic tyranny.