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Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:Starve yourselves to meet Jesus

Portzania wrote:

Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:Starve yourselves to meet Jesus

Me when I cherry pick unregulated churches and extremists

Ifreann wrote:

Portzania wrote:Me when I cherry pick unregulated churches and extremists

It's simple guys, religion doesn't kill people because any time that people die because of their religion, that doesn't count.

Floofybit wrote:Every year, 5% of deaths are attributed to alcohol. Alcohol can be a deadly substance that can have harmful affects to your brain, liver, and many other vital organs. Alcoholics and alcohol abusers are much more likely to get divorced, have problems with domestic violence, struggle with unemployment, and live in poverty.

So what do we do? Is it really much of a problem?

Well, I'd say the 1 in 12 Americans who have an alcohol addiction would say yes. The nearly 400 people who die a day in the United States alone would say yes. The ten thousand people who died in drunk driving accidents would say yes.

So how do we stop it? We can't "live and let live" because all that does is live and let other people die. Can we ban it? We all know very well of the gang violence in the prohibition days, but it law enforcement advanced enough to put a stop to it? Or do we need larger law enforcement to crack down on alcohol abuse? Obviously, this isn't a matter of, "my friend only drinks once a week, it shouldn't be banned because she can moderate." No, we need to do something about it. But what?

Personally, I like the option of banning it and upping law enforcement. However, I'm not entirely sure. What do you think?

Remember, this thread is about alcohol. Deal with alcohol now and we can talk about drugs in another thread. And finally, site rules apply, I don't want anyone to get warned.

Vrbo wrote:

Floofybit wrote:Every year, 5% of deaths are attributed to alcohol. Alcohol can be a deadly substance that can have harmful affects to your brain, liver, and many other vital organs. Alcoholics and alcohol abusers are much more likely to get divorced, have problems with domestic violence, struggle with unemployment, and live in poverty.

So what do we do? Is it really much of a problem?

Well, I'd say the 1 in 12 Americans who have an alcohol addiction would say yes. The nearly 400 people who die a day in the United States alone would say yes. The ten thousand people who died in drunk driving accidents would say yes.

So how do we stop it? We can't "live and let live" because all that does is live and let other people die. Can we ban it? We all know very well of the gang violence in the prohibition days, but it law enforcement advanced enough to put a stop to it? Or do we need larger law enforcement to crack down on alcohol abuse? Obviously, this isn't a matter of, "my friend only drinks once a week, it shouldn't be banned because she can moderate." No, we need to do something about it. But what?

Personally, I like the option of banning it and upping law enforcement. However, I'm not entirely sure. What do you think?

Remember, this thread is about alcohol. Deal with alcohol now and we can talk about drugs in another thread. And finally, site rules apply, I don't want anyone to get warned.

I've always had horrible reactions to alcohol, gagging and almost vomiting with some alcohol with high alcohol content. So I tend to stay away from the stuff. That being said, bringing back prohibition proves we never learn from our mistakes. If you outlaw something, you are not stopping it but you are simply increasing demand and decreasing supply. You can try to ban it but realistically you are going to have people who are going to illegally make it, including making moonshine.

A matter best left to the states in the United States from my perspective, but it's important to analyze states who have the strictest laws, and compare how they do in DUI arrests and deaths from alcohol poisoning or drunk driving or vice versa.

Luminesa wrote:

Vrbo wrote:
I've always had horrible reactions to alcohol, gagging and almost vomiting with some alcohol with high alcohol content. So I tend to stay away from the stuff. That being said, bringing back prohibition proves we never learn from our mistakes. If you outlaw something, you are not stopping it but you are simply increasing demand and decreasing supply. You can try to ban it but realistically you are going to have people who are going to illegally make it, including making moonshine.

A matter best left to the states in the United States from my perspective, but it's important to analyze states who have the strictest laws, and compare how they do in DUI arrests and deaths from alcohol poisoning or drunk driving or vice versa.

This is a good point. And states with a lot of dry counties (like when you go further into the Midwest and Appalachia) still have high rates of poverty and crime. It’s a matter of seeing how that correlates with alcohol abuse.

Vrbo wrote:

Luminesa wrote:This is a good point. And states with a lot of dry counties (like when you go further into the Midwest and Appalachia) still have high rates of poverty and crime. It’s a matter of seeing how that correlates with alcohol abuse.

As a note, I live in a county that still has blue laws despite not being overtly religious. Alongside that, New Jersey has some of the most draconian alcohol-distribution laws in the country with some of the tightest restrictions on retailers. There is a single supermarket I can think of that makes selling alcohol convenient, whereas if you want to buy alcohol while grocery shopping, you need to go to a totally different segment of the building after you have bought everything else. Hard alcohol can't be purchased before 12:00 AM and after 9:00 PM, light alcohol after 10:00 PM (Most stores close at 9:00). Yadda yadda yadda.

As a result, New Jersey has some of the lowest statistics for drinking in general. It's not absent but it's not prevalent.

Floofybit wrote:

Kernen wrote:As I recall, there have been several wars waged explicitly in the name of religion.

But religion never killed anyone. The people did.

Katganistan wrote:

Vrbo wrote:As a note, I live in a county that still has blue laws despite not being overtly religious. Alongside that, New Jersey has some of the most draconian alcohol-distribution laws in the country with some of the tightest restrictions on retailers. There is a single supermarket I can think of that makes selling alcohol convenient, whereas if you want to buy alcohol while grocery shopping, you need to go to a totally different segment of the building after you have bought everything else. Hard alcohol can't be purchased before 12:00 AM and after 9:00 PM, light alcohol after 10:00 PM (Most stores close at 9:00). Yadda yadda yadda.

As a result, New Jersey has some of the lowest statistics for drinking in general. It's not absent but it's not prevalent.

Planet of Wine on Route 1 is where I tend to get my stuff.... yes, you don't have hard liquor in GROCERY STORES (though you can buy at Costco) but your package stores are doing just fine.

As for dry towns like Ocean City.... the package store just across the bridge going into Ocean City does a lively bit of business.

Floofybit wrote:Every year, 5% of deaths are attributed to alcohol. Alcohol can be a deadly substance that can have harmful affects to your brain, liver, and many other vital organs. Alcoholics and alcohol abusers are much more likely to get divorced, have problems with domestic violence, struggle with unemployment, and live in poverty.

So what do we do? Is it really much of a problem? Well, I'd say the 1 in 12 Americans who have an alcohol addiction would say yes. The nearly 400 people who die a day in the United States alone would say yes. The ten thousand people who died in drunk driving accidents would say yes.

So how do we stop it? We can't "live and let live" because all that does is live and let other people die. Can we ban it? We all know very well of the gang violence in the prohibition days, but it law enforcement advanced enough to put a stop to it? Or do we need larger law enforcement to crack down on alcohol abuse? Obviously, this isn't a matter of, "my friend only drinks once a week, it shouldn't be banned because she can moderate." No, we need to do something about it. But what?

Personally, I like the option of banning it and upping law enforcement. However, I'm not entirely sure. What do you think?

Remember, this thread is about alcohol. Deal with alcohol now and we can talk about drugs in another thread. And finally, site rules apply, I don't want anyone to get warned.

Floofybit wrote:

Tuscaria wrote:bruh thats not fair

Lol, FA always has the HOTTEST takes

Tuscaria wrote:

Floofybit wrote:Lol, FA always has the HOTTEST takes

What, May I Ask, happens to Be What you are saying here?