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Who do you support?

Israel
547
55%
Palestine
452
45%
 
Total votes : 999

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Nazarethian
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Founded: Aug 02, 2012
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Postby Nazarethian » Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:24 pm

I support Israel, Israel is safest nation in the middle east for Christians. Palestinians have tried to get "their" land back for what 70 something years now and still have not got it. Israel has not lost a war that it has fought against the surrounding hostile countries, I think its safe to say... Palestinians Ol buddies, ol' pals, ol' friend of mines you are never going to have rule over that land.
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The Zeonic States
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Postby The Zeonic States » Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:33 pm

Nazarethian wrote:I support Israel, Israel is safest nation in the middle east for Christians. Palestinians have tried to get "their" land back for what 70 something years now and still have not got it. Israel has not lost a war that it has fought against the surrounding hostile countries, I think its safe to say... Palestinians Ol buddies, ol' pals, ol' friend of mines you are never going to have rule over that land.


One can never be sure of the future espeically in the middle east
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New Sapienta
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Founded: Sep 28, 2011
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Postby New Sapienta » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:12 pm

Spiritwolf wrote:
New Sapienta wrote:What ethnicity are you?

Very, very Pro-Israel....... any questions?

That doesn't count, what ethnicity are you, not your political opinion.

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Costa Fiero
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Founded: Nov 24, 2010
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Postby Costa Fiero » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:15 pm

New Sapienta wrote:
Spiritwolf wrote:Very, very Pro-Israel....... any questions?

That doesn't count, what ethnicity are you, not your political opinion.


Ethnicity has nothing to do with someone's opinion.

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New Sapienta
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Postby New Sapienta » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:18 pm

Costa Fiero wrote:
New Sapienta wrote:That doesn't count, what ethnicity are you, not your political opinion.


Ethnicity has nothing to do with someone's opinion.

That's what I said.

He just stated a political opinion and not his ethnicity, as I asked him.

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Costa Fiero
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Founded: Nov 24, 2010
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Postby Costa Fiero » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:20 pm

New Sapienta wrote:That's what I said.

He just stated a political opinion and not his ethnicity, as I asked him.


So then if it has no bearing on political opinions, why are you asking for his ethnicity?

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New Sapienta
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Postby New Sapienta » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:22 pm

Costa Fiero wrote:
New Sapienta wrote:That's what I said.

He just stated a political opinion and not his ethnicity, as I asked him.


So then if it has no bearing on political opinions, why are you asking for his ethnicity?

Because he has staed numerous times he has no problems with ethnic relocation.

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Costa Fiero
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Postby Costa Fiero » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:27 pm

New Sapienta wrote:Because he has staed numerous times he has no problems with ethnic relocation.


And anyone of any ethnicity can be supportive of that be they Hispanic, African, East Asian, Caucasian etc.

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New Sapienta
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Postby New Sapienta » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:28 pm

Costa Fiero wrote:
New Sapienta wrote:Because he has staed numerous times he has no problems with ethnic relocation.


And anyone of any ethnicity can be supportive of that be they Hispanic, African, East Asian, Caucasian etc.

Yes, and I wanted to see if he would still be supportive if he belonged to an ethnicity that has suffered ethnic re-location.

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Forster Keys
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Founded: Mar 08, 2010
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Postby Forster Keys » Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:15 pm

Varijnland wrote:
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What do you mean?

Well, the English are not native to where they live now.


Well there's evidence to suggest they've lived their since the Ice Age:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... hgene.html

But I suppose you could revive the Neanderthals and give it back to them if you were really keen on the whole idea.
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Socialist EU
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Founded: Aug 19, 2010
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Postby Socialist EU » Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:22 pm

Spiritwolf wrote:
New Sapienta wrote:What ethnicity are you?

Very, very Pro-Israel....... any questions?


I'm very aware of your petty-bourgeois nationalism, I see little difference to those who advocate a single national petty bourgeois Palestinian state.
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Gideus
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Postby Gideus » Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:27 pm

Socialist EU wrote:
Spiritwolf wrote:Very, very Pro-Israel....... any questions?


I'm very aware of your petty-bourgeois nationalism, I see little difference to those who advocate a single national petty bourgeois Palestinian state.


Ah, insults.

Made better when using the works proletariat, bourgeois, etc. etc.!

Wait, most people don't know the ACTUAL meanings of those words? Oh well, keep using them as insults!

Damn comminazifascistproletariatbourgeois.
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Evraim
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Founded: Dec 29, 2011
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Postby Evraim » Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:31 pm

Socialist EU wrote:
Spiritwolf wrote:Very, very Pro-Israel....... any questions?


I'm very aware of your petty-bourgeois nationalism, I see little difference to those who advocate a single national petty bourgeois Palestinian state.

What if I justify my petty-bourgeois nationalism? ;)

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Spiritwolf
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Founded: Nov 21, 2011
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Postby Spiritwolf » Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:52 pm

I had great hopes for Israel............. When Hamas continued to barrage Israel with rockets I looked on hopefully. When Israel killed Hamas top "Military" leader (if one can even associate a terrorist with a true military man) and Hamas rsponded by firing over 200 rockets into Israel, some even hitting Tel Aviv, I sat up and started to believe finally Israel might take action. Netanyahu and Barak mobilized the IDF reserves in their thousands and began massing them on the border with Gaza, clearly massing for an invasion, and I stood with Israel and believed the time had finally come for this madness to be ended. I hoped that Israel would launch a full scale ground invasion that would carry the IDF all the way to the sea....... crushing all of the Hamas fighters AND their so-called "civilian" population beneath the treads of Merkava main battle tanks. Morsi clearly wanted to involve Egypt in this fight and that would be ok with me, Egypt needs its ass kicked solidly and resoundingly for all the world to see. The "Arab Spring" will not be the end of Israel but rather the beginning of the end for those who would stand against Israel. Iran has supplied Hamas with rockets, weapons, munitions, and all sorts of other supplies in an effort to kill Israeli's. Iran is developing a nuclear weapon to use against Israel in an effort to "wipe her out". Iran must also die. All of it, all of them, no survivors. Only in this way will Israel survive in safety and security and in peace. But, alas, it is not to be............. Israel does not have the heart to even defend herself from massed rocket artillery barrages and cross border incursions by Hamas and other Guerillas seeking to kill and destroy. Israel has become complacent in her everyday routine and simply lacks the will to act. Meanwhile, Morsi is strengthening his hand in Egypt proper and is rallying all of those who oppose Israel to his side. Maybe this is what Israel really needs to bring her to action, a good solid kick in the nuts from a real arab strongman who is leading the militant Israel hating arab world into action against what he calls the "Zionist Aggressor". Or maybe even a mushroom cloud over the shattered remains of Tel Aviv after the Iranians deliver their nuclear bomb on the doorstep of the Knesset. Time will tell.
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Chronic Hypersomnia
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Founded: Sep 02, 2012
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Postby Chronic Hypersomnia » Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:54 pm

Spiritwolf wrote:I had great hopes for Israel............. When Hamas continued to barrage Israel with rockets I looked on hopefully. When Israel killed Hamas top "Military" leader (if one can even associate a terrorist with a true military man) and Hamas rsponded by firing over 200 rockets into Israel, some even hitting Tel Aviv, I sat up and started to believe finally Israel might take action. Netanyahu and Barak mobilized the IDF reserves in their thousands and began massing them on the border with Gaza, clearly massing for an invasion, and I stood with Israel and believed the time had finally come for this madness to be ended. I hoped that Israel would launch a full scale ground invasion that would carry the IDF all the way to the sea....... crushing all of the Hamas fighters AND their so-called "civilian" population beneath the treads of Merkava main battle tanks. Morsi clearly wanted to involve Egypt in this fight and that would be ok with me, Egypt needs its ass kicked solidly and resoundingly for all the world to see. The "Arab Spring" will not be the end of Israel but rather the beginning of the end for those who would stand against Israel. Iran has supplied Hamas with rockets, weapons, munitions, and all sorts of other supplies in an effort to kill Israeli's. Iran is developing a nuclear weapon to use against Israel in an effort to "wipe her out". Iran must also die. All of it, all of them, no survivors. Only in this way will Israel survive in safety and security and in peace. But, alas, it is not to be............. Israel does not have the heart to even defend herself from massed rocket artillery barrages and cross border incursions by Hamas and other Guerillas seeking to kill and destroy. Israel has become complacent in her everyday routine and simply lacks the will to act. Meanwhile, Morsi is strengthening his hand in Egypt proper and is rallying all of those who oppose Israel to his side. Maybe this is what Israel really needs to bring her to action, a good solid kick in the nuts from a real arab strongman who is leading the militant Israel hating arab world into action against what he calls the "Zionist Aggressor". Or maybe even a mushroom cloud over the shattered remains of Tel Aviv after the Iranians deliver their nuclear bomb on the dorrstep of the Knesset. Time will tell.

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Postby Transnapastain » Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:30 am

Gravedig, lets not. There are current threads on this topic.

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