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Green October Z wrote:

Shanghai industrial complex wrote:There are some differences between it and cniht.
origin
Old English cniht ‘boy, youth, servant’, of West Germanic origin; related to Dutch knecht and German Knecht .From Oxford

Fun fact: Girl originally just meant child (regardless of sex).

I won't believe this until I hear it the voice of Kratos.

Neanderthaland wrote:

Sundiata wrote:Well, I ultimately think it means living the seven lively virtues: chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience, kindness, and humility. If a man lives in such a way and works to overcome sin, he effectively can be referred to as a good man.

You're unsuited for the rage of war
So pack up, go home, you're through
How could I make a man out of you?

You're not a man until you can quote Disney songs, damn it

Neanderthaland wrote:

Green October Z wrote:
Fun fact: Girl originally just meant child (regardless of sex).

I won't believe this until I hear it the voice of Kratos.

Replace "god" with "girl," instead.

"I am a girl, boy."

"We're girls! That means we can do whatever we want!"

"There are consequences to killing a girl!"

Atheris wrote:

Neanderthaland wrote:I won't believe this until I hear it the voice of Kratos.

Replace "god" with "girl," instead.

"I am a girl, boy."

"We're girls! That means we can do whatever we want!"

"There are consequences to killing a girl!"

"I made a deal with a girl that cost me my soul..."

"s'okay bro. We've all been there."

Being a man means being older than the point in a male's life that whatever society he is in has decided to place the boundary of boyhood and manhood. Manhood comes with no qualities that can be definitely attached to it.

Vetalia wrote:

Torisakia wrote:You measure a man by his ability to cook a steak. Anything higher than medium and they're not men, just cruel disappointments to the world of beef.

I go for medium rare or rare myself depending on the cut. I will say nothing else about our manly POTUS who eats his well-done with ketchup. My problem is I err on the side of caution and get bitched at when I grill for the steak being "too bloody".

Honestly if someone like to eat their steak well done with ketchup, then more power to them. Some people eat the whole steak raw. The point is that a man is measured by how he treats his meat.

Mzeusia wrote:Being a man means being older than the point in a male's life that whatever society he is in has decided to place the boundary of boyhood and manhood. Manhood comes with no qualities that can be definitely attached to it.

Valid point.

"Gender is a social construct"
Also:

Mzeusia wrote:Being a man means being older than the point in a male's life that whatever society he is in has decided to place the boundary of boyhood and manhood. Manhood comes with no qualities that can be definitely attached to it.

Manhood is a social role. That's why we call it manhood and not malehood. Or adultness.

Diopolis wrote:"Gender is a social construct"
Also:

Mzeusia wrote:Being a man means being older than the point in a male's life that whatever society he is in has decided to place the boundary of boyhood and manhood. Manhood comes with no qualities that can be definitely attached to it.

Manhood is a social role. That's why we call it manhood and not malehood. Or adultness.

I disagree. Being a man isn't a social role. Men can choose to adhere to that role, but they can choose not to. Adhering to it might make you a good man in your society's eyes, but not a man.

For those who missed Valentine Z's salient post, I second it.

What is a man? Watch and learn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_HL0wiK4Zc

Mzeusia wrote:

Diopolis wrote:"Gender is a social construct"
Also:

Manhood is a social role. That's why we call it manhood and not malehood. Or adultness.

I disagree. Being a man isn't a social role. Men can choose to adhere to that role, but they can choose not to. Adhering to it might make you a good man in your society's eyes, but not a man.

Maybe it makes you a mature man.

MGTOWia wrote:For those who missed Valentine Z's salient post, I second it.

What is a man? Watch and learn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_HL0wiK4Zc

I saw it the first time and I fully agree with it.

Rojava Free State wrote:

Mzeusia wrote:I disagree. Being a man isn't a social role. Men can choose to adhere to that role, but they can choose not to. Adhering to it might make you a good man in your society's eyes, but not a man.

Maybe it makes you a mature man.

Maturity is definitional to manhood.

Mzeusia wrote:

Diopolis wrote:"Gender is a social construct"
Also:

Manhood is a social role. That's why we call it manhood and not malehood. Or adultness.

I disagree. Being a man isn't a social role. Men can choose to adhere to that role, but they can choose not to. Adhering to it might make you a good man in your society's eyes, but not a man.

The fact that a body can choose to be nonconformist isn't an argument against the existence of social roles.

Diopolis wrote:

Rojava Free State wrote:
Maybe it makes you a mature man.

Maturity is definitional to manhood.

Mzeusia wrote:I disagree. Being a man isn't a social role. Men can choose to adhere to that role, but they can choose not to. Adhering to it might make you a good man in your society's eyes, but not a man.

The fact that a body can choose to be nonconformist isn't an argument against the existence of social roles.

Firstly, of course men can be immature. It happens all the time and you can look up the real definition of man. It says nothing about maturity. As for your nonconformist point, what would you say a grown adult male is who does not conform to those social roles? I'd still call them a man regardless of their behaviour.

Social roles exist and men and women are expected to conform to them, sure, but if men, in this case, do not, they still remain a man. Others might call them less of a man because of this, but saying that is a shaming tactic that is meant to get men to conform. It does not actually make a man suddenly not a man.

Being a man is just being yourself and not caring what others think.

You must have a penis to be a man.


That's it.

Alorgaze wrote:You must have a penis to be a man.


That's it.

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No. There's no such thing as a "true man," or any definition of "manhood" that could possibly encapsulate all men. As the OP observes, whenever you devise one definition, there are always people who fall through the cracks.

Alorgaze wrote:You must have a penis to be a man.


That's it.

How about futa

Alorgaze wrote:You must have a penis to be a man.


That's it.

Does it needs to be attached to your body or can it be in a jar on a shelf ?

The Alma Mater wrote:

Alorgaze wrote:You must have a penis to be a man.


That's it.

Does it needs to be attached to your body or can it be in a jar on a shelf ?

There's a museum in iceland that is very manly.

The Blaatschapen wrote:

The Alma Mater wrote:
Does it needs to be attached to your body or can it be in a jar on a shelf ?

There's a museum in iceland that is very manly.

In South Korea there is a very manly park.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haesindang_Park

Alorgaze wrote:You must have a penis to be a man.


That's it.

Gross. Very gross.

The Blaatschapen wrote:

The Alma Mater wrote:
Does it needs to be attached to your body or can it be in a jar on a shelf ?

There's a museum in iceland that is very manly.

Naturalis Leiden has a small wing devoted to reproduction. It has many manhoods. And a game where you use a skippyball to race your sperm to the egg.

Australian rePublic wrote:

Neanderthaland wrote:You're unsuited for the rage of war
So pack up, go home, you're through
How could I make a man out of you?

You're not a man until you can quote Disney songs, damn it

Agreed.

No one fights like Gaston
Douses lights like Gaston
In a wrestling match nobody bites like Gaston
When I hunt, I sneak up with my quiver
And beasts of the field say a prayer
First I carefully aimed for the liver
And I shot from behind
Is that fair?
I don't care

No one hits like Gaston
Matches wits like Gaston
In a spitting match nobody spits like Gaston
I'm especially good at expectorating
Ten points for Gaston