Should the government fund arts?

[The New California Republic]

I spent some time thinking about what would be considered as art by the government
I now have the mental image of our tax money funding sonic fan art

And that would be a problem...why exactly?

[Petrolheadia]

Implying that has been the case for all artists or works of art.

Some of the best have sought their financing through private donors and sponsors.

And some of the best have sought their financing through public donation and sponsoring.

And some of the best have been denied by private donors and sponsors.

And some of the best have died penniless and unrecognized in their lifetimes because of private donors and sponsors.

And some of them actually found a job to fund their artistic pursuits.

[Ifreann]

They have. Electing governments that support the arts.

Implying that has been the case for all artists or works of art.

You might be inferring that, but I was not implying anything of the sort.

Some of the best have sought their financing through private donors and sponsors.

And some were commissioned by the government of the day. Sometimes the private donor effectively was the government.

[Mike the Progressive]

Implying that has been the case for all artists or works of art.

You might be inferring that, but I was not implying anything of the sort.

Some of the best have sought their financing through private donors and sponsors.

And some were commissioned by the government of the day. Sometimes the private donor effectively was the government.

The problem is how do you determine who will be the next great artist? You can't just fund everybody because they call themselves one and their works "art."

[Conserative Morality]

And some of them actually found a job to fund their artistic pursuits.

Yes, I'm so glad Kafka ended up working with asbestos and dying from complications regarding his lungs, truly a worthy use of his time and talents. =^)

[Conserative Morality]

The problem is how do you determine who will be the next great artist? You can't just fund everybody because they call themselves one and their works "art."

Because that's what government art funding is.

[Ifreann]

You might be inferring that, but I was not implying anything of the sort.


And some were commissioned by the government of the day. Sometimes the private donor effectively was the government.

The problem is how do you determine who will be the next great artist?

You don't...

You can't just fund everybody because they call themselves one and their works "art."

I dunno, governments have a lot of money. They probably could.

[Internationalist Bastard]

And some of them actually found a job to fund their artistic pursuits.

Yes, I'm so glad Kafka ended up working with asbestos and dying from complications regarding his lungs, truly a worthy use of his time and talents. =^)

That was just premature justice for ruining my summer in 9th grade

[Mike the Progressive]

The problem is how do you determine who will be the next great artist?

You don't...

You can't just fund everybody because they call themselves one and their works "art."

I dunno, governments have a lot of money. They probably could.

Probably, I just don't know if they should.

[Ifreann]

You don't...

I dunno, governments have a lot of money. They probably could.

Probably, I just don't know if they should.

Probably not.

[Petrolheadia]

And some of them actually found a job to fund their artistic pursuits.

Yes, I'm so glad Kafka ended up working with asbestos and dying from complications regarding his lungs, truly a worthy use of his time and talents. =^)

What about the artists who didn't get jobs that were unknown to be dangerous?

Richard Serra worked at moving. Ai Weiwei played blackjack. Keith Haring was a busboy. Jackson Pollock was a babysitter. B. B. King drove a tractor. Rod Stewart was a gravedigger.

[Mike the Progressive]

Probably, I just don't know if they should.

Probably not.

It's why I said early back," yes I kind of favor it."

I don't think everybody should just get their art funded, however I also don't believe all art should rely on private funding.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Yes, I'm so glad Kafka ended up working with asbestos and dying from complications regarding his lungs, truly a worthy use of his time and talents. =^)

What about the artists who didn't get jobs that were unknown to be dangerous?

Richard Serra worked at moving. Ai Weiwei played blackjack. Keith Haring was a busboy. Jackson Pollock was a babysitter. B. B. King drove a tractor. Rod Stewart was a gravedigger.

Weiwei is an artist? My husband loves him, I thought he a documentary guy

[Petrolheadia]

What about the artists who didn't get jobs that were unknown to be dangerous?

Richard Serra worked at moving. Ai Weiwei played blackjack. Keith Haring was a busboy. Jackson Pollock was a babysitter. B. B. King drove a tractor. Rod Stewart was a gravedigger.

Weiwei is an artist? My husband loves him, I thought he a documentary guy

He is actually most famous as a modern artist critical of the Chinese state of affairs.

[The New California Republic]

What about the artists who didn't get jobs that were unknown to be dangerous?

Richard Serra worked at moving. Ai Weiwei played blackjack. Keith Haring was a busboy. Jackson Pollock was a babysitter. B. B. King drove a tractor. Rod Stewart was a gravedigger.

Weiwei is an artist? My husband loves him, I thought he a documentary guy

I thought it was common knowledge and widely accepted that AI Weiwei is famous because he is an artist. Huh. It is akin to thinking Bill Clinton is famous because of his charity work...

[Internationalist Bastard]

Weiwei is an artist? My husband loves him, I thought he a documentary guy

He is actually most famous as a modern artist critical of the Chinese state of affairs.

Huh
I now need to apologize to my husband for not listening properly

[Ethel mermania]

Weiwei is an artist? My husband loves him, I thought he a documentary guy

I thought it was common knowledge and widely accepted that AI Weiwei is famous because he is an artist. Huh. It is akin to thinking Bill Clinton is famous because of his charity work...

Bill gave at the office.

[Kramanica]

Lol no

If your "art" can't survive in the private sector then my tax money shouldn't be funding it. Completely useless endeavor.

[Ifreann]

Lol no

If your "art" can't survive in the private sector then my tax money shouldn't be funding it. Completely useless endeavor.

You heard him, people, blast the heads off Mount Rushmore.

[Kramanica]

Lol no

If your "art" can't survive in the private sector then my tax money shouldn't be funding it. Completely useless endeavor.

You heard him, people, blast the heads off Mount Rushmore.

Mount Rushmore was supposed to be a tourist attraction. It wasn't done for the sake of funding arts. And it technically wasn't even finished since the funding dried up anyway.

[The Parkus Empire]

I think the community should fund the preservation of art which has importance in their tradition and culture. Just funding art in general sounds pointless, though.

[Ifreann]

You heard him, people, blast the heads off Mount Rushmore.

Mount Rushmore was supposed to be a tourist attraction. It wasn't done for the sake of funding arts. And it technically wasn't even finished since the funding dried up anyway.

It's a giant fucking sculpture. It's art. And the gubbmint funded it.


"Completely useless endeavor." - Kramanica, 2018

[The Parkus Empire]

Lol no

If your "art" can't survive in the private sector then my tax money shouldn't be funding it. Completely useless endeavor.

You heard him, people, blast the heads off Mount Rushmore.

And tear down statues of Robert E. Lee.

[Kramanica]

Mount Rushmore was supposed to be a tourist attraction. It wasn't done for the sake of funding arts. And it technically wasn't even finished since the funding dried up anyway.

It's a giant fucking sculpture. It's art. And the gubbmint funded it.


"Completely useless endeavor." - Kramanica, 2018

It's a tourist attraction. That's what it was meant to be. That's what it is.

It wasn't done for the purpose of giving a bunch of liberal arts majors something to sit around and pontificate about. It was done purely for the purpose of making money.

[Kramanica]

You heard him, people, blast the heads off Mount Rushmore.

And tear down statues of Robert E. Lee.

Isn't that what we already do?

Or is that the joke?