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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:10 pm

Olerand wrote:
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The citizens pay up my friend, not the States to pay into the Federal budget. They would, if that were a thing, definitely want that influence however if that were the case.

One member of the right, no different than Melenchon's lot crying foul over your own party bullying them :^)

And you would end up with the Articles of Confederation again. Didn't work the first time, won't work again, and it's not a good policy for the EU.

You mean against Valls? It's pathetic, but they're not claiming oppression. They're claiming the PS are social-traitors (or so) and not that they are being oppressed. Do you see the difference? Do you see how one is indecent and illogical, and the other simply childish and irritating?


Articles of Confederation were just fine in my opinion. Nothing bad happened, nothing to see here. They are really in the same league, shit bait that people keep taking.

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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:11 pm

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I thought you were fan of that sort of thing?

One sided chivalry is stupid suicide.


There we go, that is a winner's attitude! You're learning, I hope this holds true for the majority of the party.

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Postby Neo Balka » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:11 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Olerand wrote:And you would end up with the Articles of Confederation again. Didn't work the first time, won't work again, and it's not a good policy for the EU.

You mean against Valls? It's pathetic, but they're not claiming oppression. They're claiming the PS are social-traitors (or so) and not that they are being oppressed. Do you see the difference? Do you see how one is indecent and illogical, and the other simply childish and irritating?


Articles of Confederation were just fine in my opinion. Nothing bad happened, nothing to see here. They are really in the same league, shit bait that people keep taking.



i am detecting some serious treason right now.
The mere fact that i pissed someone off either means i stood for something or i said something offensive.
in this day and age it's both.
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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:11 pm

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You aren't involved in the spending of your own money? Merde, the situation is far worse than I thought.

Sure it is related. Its shameless, indecent and cowardly as well. You aren't even turning a profit via a corrupt arms deal ala Mitterand. Its so disappointing.


Honestly, giving money to the germans is like giving a psycho a loaded gun. We should have never let them into NATO.


It was a mistake to let Germans govern themselves, they should have just been annexed.

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Postby Olerand » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:12 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Olerand wrote:And you would end up with the Articles of Confederation again. Didn't work the first time, won't work again, and it's not a good policy for the EU.

You mean against Valls? It's pathetic, but they're not claiming oppression. They're claiming the PS are social-traitors (or so) and not that they are being oppressed. Do you see the difference? Do you see how one is indecent and illogical, and the other simply childish and irritating?


Articles of Confederation were just fine in my opinion. Nothing bad happened, nothing to see here. They are really in the same league, shit bait that people keep taking.

Well, clearly something went wrong for even the Demi-God Founding Fathers to have decided to abandon them.
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:12 pm

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Gauthier wrote:One sided chivalry is stupid suicide.


There we go, that is a winner's attitude! You're learning, I hope this holds true for the majority of the party.

Stop lying to yourself and register Republican.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:12 pm

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Greater Cesnica wrote:Ahh, political hatemongering, such a fine tradition.

"Right-wing" is hatemongering? I didn't know it was a bad word.

No. I mean both sides arguing with each other.
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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:13 pm

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There we go, that is a winner's attitude! You're learning, I hope this holds true for the majority of the party.

Stop lying to yourself and register Republican.


Why? Then people like you might run the party. I can't let that happen :^)

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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:14 pm

Olerand wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Articles of Confederation were just fine in my opinion. Nothing bad happened, nothing to see here. They are really in the same league, shit bait that people keep taking.

Well, clearly something went wrong for even the Demi-God Founding Fathers to have decided to abandon them.


Thats not true, they (PBUH) are infallible and always correct

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Postby Neo Balka » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:15 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
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Honestly, giving money to the germans is like giving a psycho a loaded gun. We should have never let them into NATO.


It was a mistake to let Germans govern themselves, they should have just been annexed.


quite. or break them into small chunks of country.
The mere fact that i pissed someone off either means i stood for something or i said something offensive.
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Postby USS Monitor » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:15 pm

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And you're just going on ahead ignoring the widespread, continuous attacks against Trump in the media? All right, your loss.

No, I am just finding extremely distasteful, indecent, shameful, and sick that someone would claim that someone speaking ill of Donald Trump is oppression when there are actual human beings fearing for their lives due to the oppression they face.
This is so indecent, so shameful. There once was a time when America would not stoop this low, but that time is long gone, unfortunately.


Did you miss all the whining (and the bloody war) about how white Southerners were being oppressed because the Damn Yankees wanted them to stop expanding slavery?
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Postby Neo Balka » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:16 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Olerand wrote:Well, clearly something went wrong for even the Demi-God Founding Fathers to have decided to abandon them.


Thats not true, they (PBUH) are infallible and always correct


But marches, the need to form a more perfect and perpetual union.
The mere fact that i pissed someone off either means i stood for something or i said something offensive.
in this day and age it's both.
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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:17 pm

Neo Balka wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Thats not true, they (PBUH) are infallible and always correct


But marches, the need to form a more perfect and perpetual union.


Was a mistake. The Southerners weren't worth the cost in blood.

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Postby Olerand » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:17 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
Olerand wrote:No, I am just finding extremely distasteful, indecent, shameful, and sick that someone would claim that someone speaking ill of Donald Trump is oppression when there are actual human beings fearing for their lives due to the oppression they face.
This is so indecent, so shameful. There once was a time when America would not stoop this low, but that time is long gone, unfortunately.


Did you miss all the whining about how white Southerners were being oppressed because the Damn Yankees wanted them to stop expanding slavery?

Ah right. I was thinking more along the post-WWII era, but it is absolutely true that this is not a unique occurrence in American history.

The East Marches II wrote:
Olerand wrote:Well, clearly something went wrong for even the Demi-God Founding Fathers to have decided to abandon them.


Thats not true, they (PBUH) are infallible and always correct

PBUT*. Peace Be Upon Them*. Not unless all of the Demi-God Founding Fathers are capable of merging into One full God or something.
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Postby Neo Balka » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:18 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
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But marches, the need to form a more perfect and perpetual union.


Was a mistake. The Southerners weren't worth the cost in blood.


i'd rather not have a rival power on the same piece of land. we couldve decimated them as punishment for the blood our (noble) people shed, but what would that have brought?
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Postby Staniel » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:18 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Geilinor wrote:"Right-wing" is hatemongering? I didn't know it was a bad word.

No. I mean both sides arguing with each other.


I remember you saying that I was "hatemongering" somehow back in the "Mosque" forum thread. Sigh...good times. :lol:
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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:22 pm

Olerand wrote:PBUT*. Peace Be Upon Them*. Not unless all of the Demi-God Founding Fathers are capable of merging into One full God or something.


They can but thats a rare occasion. We call that "Uncle Sam".

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Postby Salandriagado » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:31 pm

Staniel wrote:
Olerand wrote:... Persecution...

I wonder how the real persecuted peoples of the world would feel to see their enslavement/subjugation/slaughter/etc. be compared to... plays, videos, and photos.

Truly, it is becoming more and more apparent that not only do American politics have no decency, but no shame either.


Persecution doesn't have to be about slavery and other violence, you know. It can be hostility based on a political belief, such as this! You can ignore the Left's viciousness, but I will not rest until the mainstream media's approval of always putting Trump in a biased, negative light ceases.


None of your examples are either persecution, violence, or vicious. The media doesn't need to make Trump looks bad (and it's hilarious that you think that the mainstream media is predominantly left wing): he does that himself.


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Dylar wrote:No one's denying the backlash against the Republican Party, however, this backlash is really just a bunch of people from the left expressing their Constitutional right to Freedom of Speech. Meaning that you can say whatever you want about this country, or it's government, and you will not be arrested for hurting the President's feelings. It's not a persecution, otherwise we'd have people running around the streets killing anyone who even mentions the word "Republican." Also, persecution is usually committed against minority groups, not governments.



So Kathy Griffin holding the decapitated head of
our President is still under Free Speech?


Yes.

Isn't that inflammatory as it signifies the murder of someone?


Nope. Neither were all of those effigies of Obama that got lynched.

And speech inciting such an act is not under the Freedom of Speech clause.


It's not an incitement to violence.
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Postby Telconi » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:35 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Telconi wrote:

I stand to be hurt more over the next handful of years by Democrat policies than by Republican ones. And I've been hurt more by Democrat policies than by Republican ones thus far. So yeah, I fail to agree with people who think I should fear Trump.


It really and truly depends on the state.

California is not bad in comparison to other states. If you don't like California though, that's why there's plenty of red states in the South.

However, I very much doubt you're going to move to one of those red states.


In the south? No, too damn muggy.
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Postby Dylar » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:37 pm

Telconi wrote:
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It really and truly depends on the state.

California is not bad in comparison to other states. If you don't like California though, that's why there's plenty of red states in the South.

However, I very much doubt you're going to move to one of those red states.


In the south? No, too damn muggy.

How 'bout the Midwest? Freezing dry temps in the Winter, with hot, humid temps. in the Summer, while the Spring and Fall are just right. That and you also gotta deal with tornadoes in the Summer.
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Postby Telconi » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:39 pm

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And I've been harmed more by Republican policies than Democrat ones, and that pattern will continue for the foreseeable future. So forgive me for not buying into the whole "BUT THE LEFT IS WORSE!!!!!!!eleven1" bullshit.


You know it's getting kind of depressing how predictable the deflection is getting. Just about every criticism of the current government is immediately followed with BUT HER EMAILS or THE LEFT WAS WORSE rather than any attempt to defend the policy or practice on its own merits.


Why should I defend his policies? I'm not Sean Spicer, nobody pays me to defend his policies. They aren't good policies, so I have no desire to defend them on their own merits. They have the sole distinction of being less terrible than the Democrat's policies. Which given that I am offered two choices, is the only functional measurement.
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Postby Uxupox » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:39 pm

Dylar wrote:
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In the south? No, too damn muggy.

How 'bout the Midwest? Freezing dry temps in the Winter, with hot, humid temps. in the Summer, while the Spring and Fall are just right. That and you also gotta deal with tornadoes in the Summer.


That's why you live in a little tropical island and the only thing that you gotta worry about is the damn potholes the size of a crater.
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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:40 pm

Dylar wrote:
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In the south? No, too damn muggy.

How 'bout the Midwest? Freezing dry temps in the Winter, with hot, humid temps. in the Summer, while the Spring and Fall are just right. That and you also gotta deal with tornadoes in the Summer.


Oh God, I was in Wisconsin a few years ago, coldest winter in nearly 120 years. It snowed in fucking June. God damn Midwest.

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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:51 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Stop lying to yourself and register Republican.


Why? Then people like you might run the party. I can't let that happen :^)

You should do it, Marches, Gauth already did. Voted Huckabee he did, after I told him to. Why, we're almost chums!
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