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UK Politics Thread IX: The Masses Against the Classes

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Who is your preferred Conservative Party leadership candidate?

Gove
5
4%
Hunt
11
9%
Javid
5
4%
Johnson
37
31%
Raab
11
9%
Stewart
50
42%
 
Total votes : 119

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:16 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Pretty sure Boris wanted the job.

Boris wants the job, but only if he doesn't have to do Brexit.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:18 am

Theresa May 'hopes' UK will leave EU with a deal.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47648565

Sorry May, not good enough.
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Postby Czechoslovakia and Zakarpattia » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:25 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Theresa May 'hopes' UK will leave EU with a deal.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47648565

Sorry May, not good enough.

Just revoke the fucking mess already and stop this shitshow before you completely destroy the nation as a whole, Theresa. My message to her.
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Postby Nimzonia » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:30 am

Ifreann wrote:Like it or not, petitions with more than 10,000 signatures get responded to, and petitions with more than 100,000 signatures get considered for Parliamentary debate.


Of course, they'll "respond" some time in the middle of August with "Whoops, we left already. Never mind, then."

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Postby Alvecia » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:35 am

Nimzonia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Like it or not, petitions with more than 10,000 signatures get responded to, and petitions with more than 100,000 signatures get considered for Parliamentary debate.


Of course, they'll "respond" some time in the middle of August with "Whoops, we left already. Never mind, then."

Oddly enough the page itself has the following:
Parliament will consider this for a debate

Parliament considers all petitions that get more than 100,000 signatures for a debate

Waiting for 1 day for a debate date

Government will respond

Government responds to all petitions that get more than 10,000 signatures

Waiting for 3 days for a government response

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Postby Vassenor » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:37 am

If it keeps going at the rate we've seen quoted it should tick over 1mil before 3PM.
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Postby Alvecia » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:38 am


That's quite the interesting map actually. I like things like that.
2% engagement in my area.
Edit: Well, 1.91%
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:41 am

The New California Republic wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I'll have a look at it and sign it if I agree.

Signed it but I need to click a link in the confirmation email to confirm the signature. The system has probably been overwhelmed by the number of people who are signing it, as the email on previous petitions has come through instantly, but I'm still waiting for this one.

Still waiting for my email...
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Postby Greater Loegria » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:43 am

Vassenor wrote:If it keeps going at the rate we've seen quoted it should tick over 1mil before 3PM.

Good God almighty. Mercifully my phone was destroyed the other day in a rather boozy sesh in the officers mess so I've been somewhat unplugged from instant news updates.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:44 am

Greater Loegria wrote:
Vassenor wrote:If it keeps going at the rate we've seen quoted it should tick over 1mil before 3PM.

Good God almighty. Mercifully my phone was destroyed the other day in a rather boozy sesh in the officers mess so I've been somewhat unplugged from instant news updates.


What's wrong with people making their voices heard?

Up past 990K now.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:47 am

Alvecia wrote:

That's quite the interesting map actually. I like things like that.
2% engagement in my area.
Edit: Well, 1.91%


There seems to be some difference between the map and the petition page - I presume the map is based on unverified signatures whereas the page records ones that have been verified.

Still, only another 7,000 signatures to reach a million.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:53 am

We've passed 1 million at 1453 GMT.
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Postby Alvecia » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:54 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
Alvecia wrote:That's quite the interesting map actually. I like things like that.
2% engagement in my area.
Edit: Well, 1.91%


There seems to be some difference between the map and the petition page - I presume the map is based on unverified signatures whereas the page records ones that have been verified.

Still, only another 7,000 signatures to reach a million.

Possibly, but I would expect more than 5k unverified if that is the case. Maybe the map is getting the data using an API that's more up to date than the programmed counter on the petition page.

Interesting either way. Thanks for sharing.

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Postby Gravlen » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:54 am

And the petition has hit one million.

Whomever was the one millionth signatory wins a bucket of Bangers and Mash, as well as a seat on the negotiating table.
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Postby Andsed » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:56 am

Vassenor wrote:We've passed 1 million at 1453 GMT.

Well damm that was fast.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:59 am

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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:02 am

The New California Republic wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Signed it but I need to click a link in the confirmation email to confirm the signature. The system has probably been overwhelmed by the number of people who are signing it, as the email on previous petitions has come through instantly, but I'm still waiting for this one.

Still waiting for my email...

I got my email, but clicking the verification link results in a 502 Bad Gateway error. Looks like the system is having problems again. :roll:

EDIT: Just tried it again, it eventually worked after a dozen or so page refreshes. :)
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Last edited by Sigmund Freud on Sat Sep 23, 1939 2:23 am, edited 999 times in total.

The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Czechoslovakia and Zakarpattia » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:10 am

The New California Republic wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Still waiting for my email...

I got my email, but clicking the verification link results in a 502 Bad Gateway error. Looks like the system is having problems again. :roll:

EDIT: Just tried it again, it eventually worked after a dozen or so page refreshes. :)

Seems something is deliberately trying to prevent us from signing the petition to revoke Article 50. Jacob Rees-Mogg, is that you? :shock:

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Postby Caracasus » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:14 am

Czechoslovakia and Zakarpattia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I got my email, but clicking the verification link results in a 502 Bad Gateway error. Looks like the system is having problems again. :roll:

EDIT: Just tried it again, it eventually worked after a dozen or so page refreshes. :)

Seems something is deliberately trying to prevent us from signing the petition to revoke Article 50. Jacob Rees-Mogg, is that you? :shock:


Pretty sure Mogg uses a typewriter...

Seriously though, given how damn quickly this has been getting people signing I'd reckon the system's simply got far too many people visiting the page at once. Bit like how whenever an obscure website makes the front page of Reddit or what have you, it crashes.
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Postby Chan Island » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:37 am

I'm genuinely really pleased how my constituency (Canterbury) has double the amount of people signing than any of the neighbouring ones.

Good job everyone. Now to shoot that thing up to 2 mill, then 5 mill, then 10, then 20 million and beyond!
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Postby Czechoslovakia and Zakarpattia » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:41 am

Chan Island wrote:I'm genuinely really pleased how my constituency (Canterbury) has double the amount of people signing than any of the neighbouring ones.

Good job everyone. Now to shoot that thing up to 2 mill, then 5 mill, then 10, then 20 million and beyond!

If we manage to pass that "17.3 million" number the Brexiteers keep hollering over and over ad anfinitum about and reach the upset number of 20 million, then I will eat my hat and push to give your constituency an Victoria's Cross. Literally.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:44 am

So it is the highest rate of signatures the petition site has ever had to deal with, at times reaching 2,000 signatures a minute.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:46 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:So it is the highest rate of signatures the petition site has ever had to deal with, at times reaching 2,000 signatures a minute.

And easily explains why I had to try repeatedly to get it to work. You'd think that someone in the IT department would have thought "hmm, this might be a very popular petition, perhaps we should allocate more system resources to it?"
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White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Greater Loegria » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:48 am

Vassenor wrote:
Greater Loegria wrote:Good God almighty. Mercifully my phone was destroyed the other day in a rather boozy sesh in the officers mess so I've been somewhat unplugged from instant news updates.


What's wrong with people making their voices heard?

Up past 990K now.

Nothing inherently wrong, I'm just glad I'm not a constant witness to the cockolorum going on.
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Postby Czechoslovakia and Zakarpattia » Thu Mar 21, 2019 8:50 am

The New California Republic wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:So it is the highest rate of signatures the petition site has ever had to deal with, at times reaching 2,000 signatures a minute.

And easily explains why I had to try repeatedly to get it to work. You'd think that someone in the IT department would have thought "hmm, this might be a very popular petition, perhaps we should allocate more system resources to it?"

Do you seriously expect a Tory government to fund a petition that may put a wrench into the gears of their Brexit plan? I don't think so, but we must get it to work, without all the intermittent crashes if possible, for the future of the Union is at stake here, heck, the British people themselves. I pray that when I wake up on the 29th of March, 2019, that I will receive the news of Article 50 being withdrawn in time and this fiasco ended once and for all. Otherwise, I will lose what little faith I had in British democracy surviving after this mess.

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