Why atheists must believe in God

[TriStates]

“Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.”-Albert Einstein

I hope that quote is real because it is bloody awesome.

Want me to produce sources to you?

[Sodankyla]

Einstein, you clever son of a bitch.

[TriStates]

Einstein, you clever son of a bitch.

I enjoyed the quote sparing, and await your tour-de-force

[Madnolia]

I hope that quote is real because it is bloody awesome.

Want me to produce sources to you?

Cheers just CBA to google it myself

[TriStates]

Want me to produce sources to you?

Cheers just CBA to google it myself

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quote ... 61289.html

[Greater Beggnig]

If you ask an atheist why they disavow belief in God, they will undoubtably undoubtedly cite either their reason or science. Here are some thing things that need to be around in order for science to make sense. Possibly the most basic of these Absolute truth (Truth being that which conforms to reality)

Science can tell us almost any trait we want to know about anything, it can tell us the size, shape, weight, colorcolour, temperature, density and even the molecular structure of an object, but none of these things even matter if we can not be sure that the object even exists. Science is irrelevant if absolute truth does not exist.

The entire study of any science depends on truth being absolute, but their there is no atheistic justification for believing in it. It is ironic that those who say their alleged disbelief in God is based on reason have absolutely no reason to believe in the very things on which they base their reason!

What do you think about this line of reasoning? I think it makes a lot of sense.

So in your mind, Absolute Truth means that God exists? To use Ukrainian: Що? І навіть не розуміють. Absolute truth does not imply God. It doesn't even imply one God or a group of Gods. Absolute truth could exist without God. Science is considered objective because if it was considered subjective we would revert to the dark ages. I mean, let's be honest here, is it not better to test things and come up with explanations of the things around us which change according to available evidence, or to have one book, the interpretation of which has fluctuated wildly over the hundreds of years it has existed, as a supposed basis for absolute truth?

[TriStates]

If you ask an atheist why they disavow belief in God, they will undoubtably undoubtedly cite either their reason or science. Here are some thing things that need to be around in order for science to make sense. Possibly the most basic of these Absolute truth (Truth being that which conforms to reality)

Science can tell us almost any trait we want to know about anything, it can tell us the size, shape, weight, colorcolour, temperature, density and even the molecular structure of an object, but none of these things even matter if we can not be sure that the object even exists. Science is irrelevant if absolute truth does not exist.

The entire study of any science depends on truth being absolute, but their there is no atheistic justification for believing in it. It is ironic that those who say their alleged disbelief in God is based on reason have absolutely no reason to believe in the very things on which they base their reason!

What do you think about this line of reasoning? I think it makes a lot of sense.

So in your mind, Absolute Truth means that God exists? To use Ukrainian: Що? І навіть не розуміють. Absolute truth does not imply God. It doesn't even imply one God or a group of Gods. Absolute truth could exist without God. Science is considered objective because if it was considered subjective we would revert to the dark ages. I mean, let's be honest here, is it not better to test things and come up with explanations of the things around us which change according to available evidence, or to have one book, the interpretation of which has fluctuated wildly over the hundreds of years it has existed, as a supposed basis for absolute truth?

Color is actually spelled correctly, since he is North American.

[Madnolia]

So in your mind, Absolute Truth means that God exists? To use Ukrainian: Що? І навіть не розуміють. Absolute truth does not imply God. It doesn't even imply one God or a group of Gods. Absolute truth could exist without God. Science is considered objective because if it was considered subjective we would revert to the dark ages. I mean, let's be honest here, is it not better to test things and come up with explanations of the things around us which change according to available evidence, or to have one book, the interpretation of which has fluctuated wildly over the hundreds of years it has existed, as a supposed basis for absolute truth?

Color is actually spelled correctly, since he is North American.

England invented english so our version of colour is the correct one.

[Greater Beggnig]

Color is actually spelled correctly, since he is North American.

England invented english so our version of colour is the correct one.

Rule Britannia!
EDIT: I shall flog myself later.

[Greater Beggnig]

/thread.

[Breadknife]

Rule Britannia!
EDIT: I shall flog myself later.

Of course you shall not.

A gentleman has a man for that...

[Greater Beggnig]

Rule Britannia!
EDIT: I shall flog myself later.

Of course you shall not.

A gentleman has a man for that...

I'm sorry, I'm from the colonies:

[Volnotova]

If you ask an atheist why they disavow belief in God, they will undoubtably cite either their reason or science. Here are some thing that need to be around in order for science to make sense. Possibly the most basic of these Absolute truth (Truth being that which conforms to reality)

Science can tell us almost any trait we want to know about anything, it can tell us the size, shape, weight, color, temperature, density and even the molecular structure of an object, but none of these things even matter if we can not be sure that the object even exists. Science is irrelevant if absolute truth does not exist.
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewforum.php?f=20
The entire study of any science depends on truth being absolute, but their is no atheistic justification for believing in it. It is ironic that those who say their alleged disbelief in God is based on reason have absolutely no reason to believe in the very things on which they base their reason!

What do you think about this line of reasoning? I think it makes a lot of sense.

I am still trying to figure out how this relates to as to why atheists should believe in "god".

[Dalcaria]

1. THIS ARGUMENT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I do not care what religion you belong to, what race you are, what sexuality you prefer, or what political leaning you have, can we finally bury this debate already!!!! I am so sick of seeing this everywhere on the net! I used to think NS was worst for it, but after seeing the political thread sections of others sites (like game sites of all things) I realized it actually got a whole lot worse. Anyways, point is that everyone, religious or non-religious, should get together, hold hands, and collectively stop having a whine fest over this topic! To the poster of this thread, why must you keep this debate going! Why drag out an argument that always reaches the same conclusion, that conclusion being that nobody can prove a point! And posters, why would you AGAIN post in something that you've already debated, you already know will go nowhere, and serves no actual purpose other than to create more unnecessary internet drama! And me! Why am I again posting something in a thread like this! Obviously nobody cares! Obviously everyone else is always right, and we should just accept everyone else's view! Well, I mean this in a more sarcastic "why post when it's redundant?" sort of self-destructive way, in case I wasn't clear enough.

2. Because it makes any thread better, thank you for the British stuff there at the end folks. Always brings a little twinkle to my eye to see a Union Jack flying high. Oh, and respect to the colonies too. You guys are alright.

PS. Also, glad to see some of us are on the same page on the Ukraine. Russia really should just get lost. And before anyone starts talking about the Russians living there, maybe they should ask the Tartars living there how the felt about being kicked out of a homeland (which they have more birth right too than anyone, save for the Ukrainians. Russians just colonized the area) and then finally being able to come back after USSR collapsed, only to now have their home being sent back to the very people who kicked the out last time! I know this is off topic, just wanted to address it.

[Verloren]

^Well said.

[Dalcaria]

^Well said.

Danke (thanks).

[Svrije]

What do you think about this line of reasoning? I think it makes a lot of sense.

It's nonsensical at best. I'm having a hard time discerning the point you're trying to make, OP. Your line of reasoning, or more like a strand of illogic, goes as follows: "Atheists say their lack of belief is based on reason. They have no reason to believe in it." Therefore, what? What's the conclusion? With the second premise not making a whole lot of sense, I'm assuming you have a hard time constructing a conclusion which follows the premises you gave.

There's no atheistic justification for believing in the absolute truth? Irrelevant, since there is no theistic justification for it either. All these viewpoints are promoting is either a belief in a god or lack thereof. Also, the term is 'objective truth'. Don't confuse atheists with subjectivists.

[The United American Social Republic]

Color is actually spelled correctly, since he is North American.

England invented english so our version of colour is the correct one.

We need to start calling our thing American. We've invented a few thousand words now that you stupid Brits don't use. They're distinct enough to be called different things.

[Miiren]

If you ask an atheist why they disavow belief in God, they will undoubtably cite either their reason or science. Here are some thing that need to be around in order for science to make sense. Possibly the most basic of these Absolute truth (Truth being that which conforms to reality)

Science can tell us almost any trait we want to know about anything, it can tell us the size, shape, weight, color, temperature, density and even the molecular structure of an object, but none of these things even matter if we can not be sure that the object even exists. Science is irrelevant if absolute truth does not exist.

The entire study of any science depends on truth being absolute, but their is no atheistic justification for believing in it. It is ironic that those who say their alleged disbelief in God is based on reason have absolutely no reason to believe in the very things on which they base their reason!

What do you think about this line of reasoning? I think it makes a lot of sense.

You are completely aware that with science, one) we have something other then broad leaps to explain why we believe in something 2) you can be nihlist, like me, who believes in absolutely nothing existing, and 3) Science is always changing. what we think is the truth today might be discovered to be a lie tomorrow. that's why we pursue science. to truly understand the world around us. to look at the world at surface value, you can never truly understand how complicated, and how pinpoint perfect it all is.

in other words; I believe your reasons are very much invalid. I will not lambaste you for being a christian, just the same as I do not want you to lambaste me for being atheist. I am simply explaining my thoughts.

[Conscentia]

We need to start calling our thing American. We've invented a few thousand words now that

Like what? We know all the words you use.

you stupid Brits don't use.

Don't flame.

They're distinct enough to be called different things.

Because color is sooooo different to colour.

Anyway, this is off-topic.

[Greater Istanistan]

Color is actually spelled correctly, since he is North American.

Ahem. Nope. In the USA, you have colors. But really, us Canadians are more colourful people.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

Stop gravedigging the topic, please. This is at least twice now.