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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:46 pm

Ard al Islam wrote:
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Conversion therapy does not work period.

That wasn't the question. How does conversion therapy work, exactly? The kind that was mentioned in the beginning of the thread.

Watch the film Boy Erased. It will tell all you want to know
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Postby Ard al Islam » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:48 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Ard al Islam wrote:Male or female hormones influence how you feel about yourself, more masculine or feminine.

That's not true at all. How would you explain transgender people if that is the case?

People with more testosterone feel more masculine, and people with more estrogen feel more feminine.

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Postby Cekoviu » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:49 pm

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Cekoviu wrote:That's not true at all. How would you explain transgender people if that is the case?

People with more testosterone feel more masculine, and people with more estrogen feel more feminine.

So... you wouldn't?
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Postby Ard al Islam » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:51 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ard al Islam wrote:That wasn't the question. How does conversion therapy work, exactly? The kind that was mentioned in the beginning of the thread.

Watch the film Boy Erased. It will tell all you want to know

From what I've heard, a boy gets raped by another man and becomes gay because of it. Is that was the film is about? I haven't watched it.

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Postby Ethan Allen » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:55 pm

A quick google search should answer that for you.
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Postby Nakena » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:19 pm

Ard al Islam wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Watch the film Boy Erased. It will tell all you want to know

From what I've heard, a boy gets raped by another man and becomes gay because of it. Is that was the film is about? I haven't watched it.


Do you think you could become gay through consensual gay sex?

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Postby Cekoviu » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:20 pm

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Ard al Islam wrote:From what I've heard, a boy gets raped by another man and becomes gay because of it. Is that was the film is about? I haven't watched it.


Do you think you could become gay through consensual gay sex?

Only if the parties involved touch each other.
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Postby Union of Sovereign States and Republics » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:22 pm

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Do you think you could become gay through consensual gay sex?

Only if the parties involved touch each other.

And don't say no homo.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:36 pm

Ard al Islam wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Watch the film Boy Erased. It will tell all you want to know

From what I've heard, a boy gets raped by another man and becomes gay because of it. Is that was the film is about? I haven't watched it.

No that’s completely ludicrous. Do you honestly think sexual relations can change sexual orientation?

It’s about a young man who comes out to his parents whose father is a pastor is in Arkansas and his parents force him into conversion therapy.

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Postby Ard al Islam » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:48 pm

Nakena wrote:
Ard al Islam wrote:From what I've heard, a boy gets raped by another man and becomes gay because of it. Is that was the film is about? I haven't watched it.


Do you think you could become gay through consensual gay sex?

Does it sound like it? No.

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Postby Stylan » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:49 pm

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Postby Ard al Islam » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:49 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ard al Islam wrote:From what I've heard, a boy gets raped by another man and becomes gay because of it. Is that was the film is about? I haven't watched it.

No that’s completely ludicrous. Do you honestly think sexual relations can change sexual orientation?

It’s about a young man who comes out to his parents whose father is a pastor is in Arkansas and his parents force him into conversion therapy.

I only asked a question based on what I heard the movie was about.
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Postby Stylan » Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:51 pm

Ard al Islam wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:That's not true at all. How would you explain transgender people if that is the case?

People with more testosterone feel more masculine, and people with more estrogen feel more feminine.

not always the case
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:49 pm

Ard al Islam wrote:
San Lumen wrote:No that’s completely ludicrous. Do you honestly think sexual relations can change sexual orientation?

It’s about a young man who comes out to his parents whose father is a pastor is in Arkansas and his parents force him into conversion therapy.

I only asked a question based on what I heard the movie was about.

Ok and but don’t you think what you wrote was a bit ludicrous? If you want to know what conversion therapy entails watch that movie

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Postby Ard al Islam » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:14 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ard al Islam wrote:I only asked a question based on what I heard the movie was about.

Ok and but don’t you think what you wrote was a bit ludicrous? If you want to know what conversion therapy entails watch that movie

I read the Wikipedia summary of the plot and I am horrified.

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:16 pm

Ard al Islam wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Ok and but don’t you think what you wrote was a bit ludicrous? If you want to know what conversion therapy entails watch that movie

I read the Wikipedia summary of the plot and I am horrified.

Why not just watch the movie instead of reading the plot on Wikipedia? It has even more effect watching it
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Postby Nakena » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:23 pm

Ard al Islam wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:That's not true at all. How would you explain transgender people if that is the case?

People with more testosterone feel more masculine, and people with more estrogen feel more feminine.


This corresponds to the roles of top and bottom in homosexual relationship. The top is the masculine, the yang, active part, the bottom is the feminine, the yin, passive part.

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Postby Ard al Islam » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:29 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ard al Islam wrote:I read the Wikipedia summary of the plot and I am horrified.

Why not just watch the movie instead of reading the plot on Wikipedia? It has even more effect watching it

It's been literally 3 hours since you told me about it. In 3 hours I had class, badminton practice, and homework. In what realm would I have enough time to watch the movie between then and now? I read the Wikipedia summary to get an idea of the movie.

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:30 pm

Ard al Islam wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Why not just watch the movie instead of reading the plot on Wikipedia? It has even more effect watching it

It's been literally 3 hours since you told me about it. In 3 hours I had class, badminton practice, and homework. In what realm would I have enough time to watch the movie between then and now? I read the Wikipedia summary to get an idea of the movie.

I didnt need to know all that. I would still suggest watching the film at some point

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Postby Ard al Islam » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:31 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ard al Islam wrote:It's been literally 3 hours since you told me about it. In 3 hours I had class, badminton practice, and homework. In what realm would I have enough time to watch the movie between then and now? I read the Wikipedia summary to get an idea of the movie.

I didnt need to know all that. I would still suggest watching the film at some point

Simply reading the summary of a movie doesn't discredit the notion of watching it.

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:32 pm

Ard al Islam wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I didnt need to know all that. I would still suggest watching the film at some point

Simply reading the summary of a movie doesn't discredit the notion of watching it.


Yeah but Wikipedia tell you absolutely everything and there is no surprise and in my view ruins the effect but at least you know what this quackery entails and why it should be banned

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Postby Nakena » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:42 pm

I havent watched the movie either and I don't need to. I know already more than enough about the conversion camps.

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:46 pm

Nakena wrote:I havent watched the movie either and I don't need to. I know already more than enough about the conversion camps.

That movie is based on a memoir from someone who actually experienced it. I thought I knew to and I was shocked

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Postby New Paine » Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:06 pm

Conversion therapy should only be legal for adults, period and end of story.
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