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Postby Frisivisia » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:20 pm

North California wrote:
Dominion of Nova Scotia wrote:
Yes, but the US government in general (but especially Republicans) have failed to do anything to change these policies, even though the knowledge has been publicly available for decades. It's racist policy; racist through inaction, yet still racism.


Democrats support the War on Drugs as well, you know.

Did you read the dealy at the convention? You libertarians think you're so good on pot, you're just democrats with a poor understanding of economics. And also aren't pussies and aren't really cared about.
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Postby North California » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:20 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
North California wrote:Not what happened to Republicans, but what the fuck happened to America in the last 50 years?

We used to be loved by everybody, now everyone hates us.

Only the people we've invaded and their neighbors. So, we've still got Europe.


Eh...Europe hates us.

Oh well, every I hear Johnny Foreigner whine about how much they hate America, I just stick it to them.
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Postby Long Island Nation » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:20 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Long Island Nation wrote:They're fighting taxes and restrictions instead of slavery and fighting terrorists instead of rebels.

Also, Lincoln was a Christian.

Invading countries for little to no reasoning =/= Civil War

Also, the current Republican Party does its best to disenfranchise those that they once freed.


Think of it this way: in 150 years the world is a lot smaller. The rebs were a threat to us and the world, Iraq wasn't a real threat to us but it was being run by a bloody tyrant and major league azzhole.

Also, I find it funny that most blacks are Dems yet black poverty has risen under Obama. What have they done for African Americans? Also, there are plenty of black people who will vote for Obama because of his (half) race - even Samuel L. Jackson.

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Postby Maurepas » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:20 pm

North California wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:If you really want to do something, stop 9/11 and Bush's election. That's where I think the idealism died.


But Gore can win either, he's bad to.

If Ralph Nader won it, we'd be okay. And 9/11 didn't make people hate America, Bush's reaction to it did.

Meh, Kennedy started the Vietnam War, he would've been the same or worse than Johnson(who actually gets a pretty bad rep, unfairly) and his administration.

I think when Reagan beat Carter, that's when we started to go down a bad path. Not because Reagan was necessarily "bad" Carter necessarily "good", just the ideological switch that occurred as a result was bad for the country as a whole I think.

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Postby Frisivisia » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:20 pm

North California wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Only the people we've invaded and their neighbors. So, we've still got Europe.


Eh...Europe hates us.

Oh well, every I hear Johnny Foreigner whine about how much they hate America, I just stick it to them.

You go get 'em, ace! Fucking foreigners!
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Postby North California » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:21 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
North California wrote:
Democrats support the War on Drugs as well, you know.

Did you read the dealy at the convention? You libertarians think you're so good on pot, you're just democrats with a poor understanding of economics. And also aren't pussies and aren't really cared about.


Obama has increased activity on the border, continued to jail drug users, has armed cartels, and has deported more people than any other administration. He is very supportive of the Drug War.
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Postby Maurepas » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:21 pm

North California wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Only the people we've invaded and their neighbors. So, we've still got Europe.


Eh...Europe hates us.

Oh well, every I hear Johnny Foreigner whine about how much they hate America, I just stick it to them.

I agree, screw foreign countries. That's why we should cut off all the wars, cut off Israel and the rest of the Middle East, and get back to the Monroe Doctrine. It'd be cheaper, more effective, and have a much greater positive effect on the debt.

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Postby North California » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:23 pm

Maurepas wrote:
North California wrote:
But Gore can win either, he's bad to.

If Ralph Nader won it, we'd be okay. And 9/11 didn't make people hate America, Bush's reaction to it did.

Meh, Kennedy started the Vietnam War, he would've been the same or worse than Johnson(who actually gets a pretty bad rep, unfairly) and his administration.

I think when Reagan beat Carter, that's when we started to go down a bad path. Not because Reagan was necessarily "bad" Carter necessarily "good", just the ideological switch that occurred as a result was bad for the country as a whole I think.


My beef with Reagan is the Drug War and arming bin Laden to fight the Russians. If he hadn't done either of those, pot would be legal, and 9/11 wouldn't have happened.

Other than those two things, he was alright.
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Postby Frisivisia » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:23 pm

Long Island Nation wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Invading countries for little to no reasoning =/= Civil War

Also, the current Republican Party does its best to disenfranchise those that they once freed.


Think of it this way: in 150 years the world is a lot smaller. The rebs were a threat to us and the world, Iraq wasn't a real threat to us but it was being run by a bloody tyrant and major league azzhole.

Also, I find it funny that most blacks are Dems yet black poverty has risen under Obama. What have they done for African Americans? Also, there are plenty of black people who will vote for Obama because of his (half) race - even Samuel L. Jackson.

It never ceases to amaze me, your unwillingness to type a swear word.

Guess what? In a recession, poverty goes up. And black people are people! So when Obama came into office during a recession, black poverty went up! Holy shit dude! And it's ridiculous to think that Samuel L. Jackson is voting for Obama on race. If I remember correctly, the same black celebrities supported Clinton, Gore, and Kerry. But Obama's black, so, affirmative action, duh.
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Postby North California » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:24 pm

Maurepas wrote:
North California wrote:
Eh...Europe hates us.

Oh well, every I hear Johnny Foreigner whine about how much they hate America, I just stick it to them.

I agree, screw foreign countries. That's why we should cut off all the wars, cut off Israel and the rest of the Middle East, and get back to the Monroe Doctrine. It'd be cheaper, more effective, and have a much greater positive effect on the debt.


Agreed. :clap: :bow:
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Postby Frisivisia » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:26 pm

North California wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Did you read the dealy at the convention? You libertarians think you're so good on pot, you're just democrats with a poor understanding of economics. And also aren't pussies and aren't really cared about.


Obama has increased activity on the border, continued to jail drug users, has armed cartels, and has deported more people than any other administration. He is very supportive of the Drug War.

You think that if given unilateral control of the country, Obama would legalize Marijuana? I do. However, there is this thing called congress. It disables the President from passing laws. Don't expect the president to get the results of a King.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:26 pm

Eisenhower left office, that's what.

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Postby Frisivisia » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:27 pm

North California wrote:
Maurepas wrote:Meh, Kennedy started the Vietnam War, he would've been the same or worse than Johnson(who actually gets a pretty bad rep, unfairly) and his administration.

I think when Reagan beat Carter, that's when we started to go down a bad path. Not because Reagan was necessarily "bad" Carter necessarily "good", just the ideological switch that occurred as a result was bad for the country as a whole I think.


My beef with Reagan is the Drug War and arming bin Laden to fight the Russians. If he hadn't done either of those, pot would be legal, and 9/11 wouldn't have happened.

Other than those two things, he was alright.

Never mind that he raised taxes multiple times to get out of the recession he created.
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Postby Frisivisia » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:28 pm

North California wrote:
Maurepas wrote:I agree, screw foreign countries. That's why we should cut off all the wars, cut off Israel and the rest of the Middle East, and get back to the Monroe Doctrine. It'd be cheaper, more effective, and have a much greater positive effect on the debt.


Agreed. :clap: :bow:

The massive hole created by such a reclusion would destroy the fabric of the world stage.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:28 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
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Agreed. :clap: :bow:

The massive hole created by such a reclusion would destroy the fabric of the world stage.

That'd be a mix up.

Mind you, I'm in Africa, I'd be fucked. But it'd be a curiosity.
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Postby Frisivisia » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:31 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:The massive hole created by such a reclusion would destroy the fabric of the world stage.

That'd be a mix up.

Mind you, I'm in Africa, I'd be fucked. But it'd be a curiosity.

Massive Russian Power grab? Kim Jong Un and his army of giant farm animals hold New York hostage? Kazakhstan number one, better than America?
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Postby North California » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:34 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
North California wrote:
Agreed. :clap: :bow:

The massive hole created by such a reclusion would destroy the fabric of the world stage.


Who gives a damn? The Middle East and Africa are hell holes anyways, run despots, and no matter much aid we give them or how many times we take someone out of power, that is not going to change for a long time.

We should give up the Middle East and let it work things out on its own. And Israel can take care of itself. They don't need our money.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:35 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:That'd be a mix up.

Mind you, I'm in Africa, I'd be fucked. But it'd be a curiosity.

Massive Russian Power grab? Kim Jong Un and his army of giant farm animals hold New York hostage? Kazakhstan number one, better than America?


Pfff....Everyone knows Argentina will take over the world if the US isolates itself. 8)
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:36 pm

North California wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:The massive hole created by such a reclusion would destroy the fabric of the world stage.


Who gives a damn? The Middle East and Africa are hell holes anyways, run despots, and no matter much aid we give them or how many times we take someone out of power, that is not going to change for a long time.

We should give up the Middle East and let it work things out on its own. And Israel can take care of itself. They don't need our money.

I'd just prefer you don't completely draw out because I live in SA and my wife is an American national and I work for a company that does a lot of trade in America.
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Postby North California » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:36 pm

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My beef with Reagan is the Drug War and arming bin Laden to fight the Russians. If he hadn't done either of those, pot would be legal, and 9/11 wouldn't have happened.

Other than those two things, he was alright.

Never mind that he raised taxes multiple times to get out of the recession he created.


Yeah that sucked too. He kind of through his whole libertarian thing under the bus.

Still, other presidents have done worse... at least Reagan didn't start a ten year occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:36 pm

North California wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:The massive hole created by such a reclusion would destroy the fabric of the world stage.


Who gives a damn? The Middle East and Africa are hell holes anyways, run despots, and no matter much aid we give them or how many times we take someone out of power, that is not going to change for a long time.

We should give up the Middle East and let it work things out on its own. And Israel can take care of itself. They don't need our money.


Well....Israel does have a history of consistently beating their enemies despite being outnumbered most of the time but, while I hardly consider myself a Hawk in the political sense, I do believe even then Israel might need help in the hypothetical case of an invasion.
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Postby North California » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:38 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
North California wrote:
Who gives a damn? The Middle East and Africa are hell holes anyways, run despots, and no matter much aid we give them or how many times we take someone out of power, that is not going to change for a long time.

We should give up the Middle East and let it work things out on its own. And Israel can take care of itself. They don't need our money.

I'd just prefer you don't completely draw out because I live in SA and my wife is an American national and I work for a company that does a lot of trade in America.


What? Trade would flourish. The Monroe Doctrine was a foreign policy like Switzerland's. We trade with everybody, but we don't invade their countries.

That company would still be in South Africa. You'd still see American companies everywhere. You just wouldn't see the American military everywhere.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:39 pm

North California wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:I'd just prefer you don't completely draw out because I live in SA and my wife is an American national and I work for a company that does a lot of trade in America.


What? Trade would flourish. The Monroe Doctrine was a foreign policy like Switzerland's. We trade with everybody, but we don't invade their countries.

That company would still be in South Africa. You'd still see American companies everywhere. You just wouldn't see the American military everywhere.

Much better. I figured you were saying complete withdrawal.
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Postby North California » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:40 pm

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North California wrote:
What? Trade would flourish. The Monroe Doctrine was a foreign policy like Switzerland's. We trade with everybody, but we don't invade their countries.

That company would still be in South Africa. You'd still see American companies everywhere. You just wouldn't see the American military everywhere.

Much better. I figured you were saying complete withdrawal.


Nope. Just withdraw our military. Keep the embassies and trade going though. We need that shit, bro :)
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Postby United Middle East » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:42 pm

Dominion of Nova Scotia wrote:The War on Drugs disproportionately harms People of Color.

Ah..why?
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