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Favourite Right-Wing Revolution/Uprising/Coup?

War In The Vendée, 1793 (France)
8
7%
Southern Secession, 1860 (USA)
18
15%
Boxer Rebellion, 1899 (China)
6
5%
March On Rome, 1922 (Italy)
15
12%
National Revolution, 1926 (Portugal)
1
1%
Spanish Nationalist Coup, 1936 (Spain)
16
13%
May 16 Coup, 1961 (S. Korea)
5
4%
Chilean Coup, 1973 (Chile)
14
11%
Autumn Of Nations, 1989 (International)
29
24%
Other (Please State)
11
9%
 
Total votes : 123

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Postby Wulfenia » Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:25 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
Wulfenia wrote:
Changing material conditions and the fact that no economic system has ever been permanent.

I think you got me and Conscentia mixed up, though the irony of a transhumanist accusing me of "utopian rubbish" is not lost on me.


Remarkably, I don't believe utopia to be humanly possible.

And I didn't get you lot mixed up -- Cons makes concise, intelligent arguments that at least make sense. Even if I may disagree with them.


While believing in sci-fi fantasies about turning people into robots?

Conscentia, from what I remember, is a Communist, his system is centered around achieving post-scarcity. My politics are the opposite, so it does not make much sense for me to advocate for reaching post-scarcity.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:26 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Wulfenia wrote:
Changing material conditions and the fact that no economic system has ever been permanent.

I think you got me and Conscentia mixed up, though the irony of a transhumanist accusing me of "utopian rubbish" is not lost on me.

I don't think Scylla is a full-on transhumanist.


I just want us to be the Gods of our own destiny. :unsure:

And maybe laser arms. That'd be cool too.

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Postby Wulfenia » Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:28 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Wulfenia wrote:
Changing material conditions and the fact that no economic system has ever been permanent.

I think you got me and Conscentia mixed up, though the irony of a transhumanist accusing me of "utopian rubbish" is not lost on me.

I don't think Scylla is a full-on transhumanist.


Well he calls himself a transhumanist, so it felt like a safe assumption to make.
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Postby Conscentia » Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:31 pm

Wulfenia wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:Probably some post-scarcity utopian rubbish.

I think you got me and Conscentia mixed up, though the irony of a transhumanist accusing me of "utopian rubbish" is not lost on me.

I'm actually critical of literal post-scarcity utopianism.

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Postby Lady Scylla » Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:40 pm

Wulfenia wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
Remarkably, I don't believe utopia to be humanly possible.

And I didn't get you lot mixed up -- Cons makes concise, intelligent arguments that at least make sense. Even if I may disagree with them.


While believing in sci-fi fantasies about turning people into robots?

Conscentia, from what I remember, is a Communist, his system is centered around achieving post-scarcity. My politics are the opposite, so it does not make much sense for me to advocate for reaching post-scarcity.


The opposite, yet critical of Capitalism. So a fascist I take it. Autarky is a bunch of bullshit as well, mind.

>Improve humans via technology past our natural limits
>Corporatist
>Statist
>Militarist
>Pragmatist

Clearly utopian *nodnod*. It's funny because under my ideal view of the future -- I expect a world with more violence and inequality. :^)


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Postby Wulfenia » Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:46 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:Autarky is a bunch of bullshit as well, mind.


I'm not that interested in autarky, it's not pragmatic and has a lot of problems. Though it wasn't as much a failure for Italy as it's made out to be.
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Postby Questers » Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:46 pm

Cons probably has more consistent views than the majority of people who post here.

I.e. the "right wingers" who want to legalise drugs and prostitution lol
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Postby Wulfenia » Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:48 pm

Questers wrote:Cons probably has more consistent views than the majority of people who post here.

I.e. the "right wingers" who want to legalise drugs and prostitution lol


I think you're conflating the entire right-wing with social conservatism.
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Postby Questers » Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:48 pm

Libertarianism isn't a real ideology, jsyk.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:51 pm

Conscentia wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:[...] So a fascist I take it. [...]

... Well, yeah. It says so in her signature.


Didn't take it seriously because of the P2TM.

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Postby Wulfenia » Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:56 pm

Questers wrote:Libertarianism isn't a real ideology, jsyk.


No, it's a political philosophy, you can be right-wing or left-wing while being one.
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Postby Questers » Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:57 pm

Mmm.

Libertarianism is like one of the games you play when you're a child. Real - because you're there, playing it. Fictional because it has no bearing or application to the real world. It's just that - play.
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Postby Conscentia » Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:07 pm

Wulfenia wrote:While believing in sci-fi fantasies about turning people into robots?
Conscentia, from what I remember, is a Communist, his system is centered around achieving post-scarcity. My politics are the opposite, so it does not make much sense for me to advocate for reaching post-scarcity.

Communism is centered around abolishing the class system through the abolition of private property. Anything beyond that is debatable.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:14 pm

Questers wrote:Cons probably has more consistent views than the majority of people who post here.

I.e. the "right wingers" who want to legalise drugs and prostitution lol

Legalization sounds good to me.
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Postby Wulfenia » Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:22 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Questers wrote:Cons probably has more consistent views than the majority of people who post here.

I.e. the "right wingers" who want to legalise drugs and prostitution lol

Legalization sounds good to me.


For drugs, I'd prefer decriminalization rather than outright legalization. They're still awful and should be eliminated to the best of our abilities, but the whole War on Drugs has gone nowhere. Brothels should be legalized and regulated, with unionized prostitutes owning them.
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Postby Luminesa » Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:45 pm

Wulfenia wrote:
Luminesa wrote:I don't think Scylla is a full-on transhumanist.


Well he calls himself a transhumanist, so it felt like a safe assumption to make.

She.
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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:01 pm

Conscentia wrote:The thread is 12 pages away from перестро́йка.


I don't speak Commie. English please.

(mods this is a joke no bully)


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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:03 pm

Conscentia wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:I don't speak Commie. English please.
(mods this is a joke no bully)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perestroika


Will we suffer a thread collapse with people leaving and nobody posting for 15 years?

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Postby Germanic Templars » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:05 pm

The East Marches II wrote:


Will we suffer a thread collapse with people leaving and nobody posting for 15 years?


No, just an end to commie rule over the thread and a more Putin right-wing owned thread again... Just like the Tsar's.

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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:05 pm

Conscentia wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:Will we suffer a thread collapse with people leaving and nobody posting for 15 years?

This specific iteration will be locked, so ... technically, yes.


Very accurate then tbh.

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