The left does not hold any sort of moral high ground.

[PaNTuXIa]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3bZ7SQJe4s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0NpqCm2OeM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K1wEgDdO64

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zaAs9Nsyuw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFfPei8wQG0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Aw5J0YGryU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQmbn7ndvZQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISB3-51Sdhs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwXlW_rm0Rs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnszDZkjBDE

Let me be clear. I am by no means pro-Trump, and this is not a post promoting Trump. I am just disgusted by the hypocrisy and willful ignorance of the modern American left. It seems that every god damn day there's a news report of liberals assaulting someone for being a trump supporter. I can think of a single case of trump supporters physically lashing out; the black man who clocked the shit out of the klansman at the Arizona(?) rally.

Now I know what the response is going to be from the NSG community. You're going to decry and disown them, and claim that they're a minority and don't represent the majority left. But here's the problem. They are still the left. It doesn't matter whether their particular flavor is the exact same as yours, you both fall under the same umbrella of populist and progressive philosophies. It doesn't mean a thing if you claim to stand for the marginalized or someone too socially weak or what the hell ever when Bernie and Hillary supporters are willing to attack anyone in the trump camp, be they Latino, African American, female, or elderly.

I'm going to leave it here because I don't really feel any more elaboration is needed. Basically what it comes down to is the left simply can't claim to hold any moral superiority anymore. You can say you represent (as a whole) what you wish, but when members of your camps act the exact opposite it totally flies in the face of everything you're trying to profess.

Okay, I'm not sure why that means the left holds no moral high ground. It's not like the right has much going for them either.

[Stormopolis]

Okay, I'm not sure why that means the left holds no moral high ground. It's not like the right has much going for them either.

That's not a good..well, anything. "But they do (or do not) it too!" is not a valid point. Just because Apartheid South-Africa wasn't a great place to be, the ANC gets away with calling to kill the white Afrikaners? Would've been a hoot if Eisenhower reasoned like that. "The Nazis killed thousands of Soviets, so we get to do so too!"

[Lenciland]

So all those videos of trump supporters dragging minorities quite literally by the hair out of rallies and the other videos where trump supporters actively assault protestors don't count as assault? Trump's on air admission that he wouldn't mind it if the journalists "went away" and the Fields case where she was thrown around by a member of the Trump campaign don't count? Journalists have to go through self-defense training because so many of them are being accosted in rallies. I'd say the left is on some pretty high ground until Clinton or Sanders joke about killing journalists, make fun of a disabled journalist, tell their supporters to drag protestors out, joke about the size of their dicks on television, lie about their net worth, and all of the other awful things that Trump does. I don't remember the left bombing alternative choice centers like the right bombs abortion clinics. I don't remember the left passing laws to restrict the rights of minorities in the US.

[Ganos Lao]

Yet when you hear a lot of right wingers say things like this, they immediately propose that, instead, we have fundamentalist Christians control all aspects of life.

And they propose shit using God as an excuse that you know they'd raeg over if someone proposed it using Allah as an excuse.

And they propose shit using God as an excuse that you know they'd raeg over if someone proposed it using Allah as an excuse.

B-but muh Judeo-christian values that in no way involve loving your neighbor or sharing the bounty, and they are also better than everyone else's!

But they do love their neighbour. It's just that the best way to love him is to apparently cram your religion down his and his children's throats at any opportunity.

[Stormopolis]

And they propose shit using God as an excuse that you know they'd raeg over if someone proposed it using Allah as an excuse.

B-but muh Judeo-christian values that in no way involve loving your neighbor or sharing the bounty, and they are also better than everyone else's!

But they do love their neighbour. It's just that the best way to love him is to apparently cram your religion down his and his children's throats at any opportunity.

If dodging the doorbell is the worst Christians can put you through, you know you don't have to worry. So, what is the difference? The woman on the right is far more likely to buy into the slick promos on Youtube and actually go to a cess pit created by islamic fighters to become their unwilling breeding slave whereas the woman on the left is bigoted, judgmental, but ultimately harmless. In fact, I'm about 150% more likely to marry the woman on the left than on the right.

[Vassenor]

Also people on the left don't try and pass off set photos from a zombie movie as proof of the other side's violence.

[Gauthier]

Also people on the left don't try and pass off set photos from a zombie movie as proof of the other side's violence.

Hey, it worked in Wisconsin!

[Ralkovian Grand Island]

Also people on the left don't try and pass off set photos from a zombie movie as proof of the other side's violence.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.2315755

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/201 ... -hoax.html

http://twitchy.com/2012/10/22/black-wom ... tea-party/
http://twitchy.com/2012/10/23/update-po ... f-on-fire/

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/04/us/ohio-o ... incidents/
http://www.nationalreview.com/phi-beta- ... han-harden


http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Ga ... 40811.html

http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/03/23/co ... crime-hoax

http://www.pallywood.com/#!video-reel/c1cee

http://www.fakehatecrimes.org

etc. etc.

Again, the Left has no moral high ground and pulls the same ludicrous shit.

[Hakons]

And they propose shit using God as an excuse that you know they'd raeg over if someone proposed it using Allah as an excuse.

The woman on the left likely has the gun for defensive purposes, as is the case for the vast majority of American gun owners. The women on the right will be more likely to use her gun, given the current political situation where I'm assuming she lives. The woman on the right also has a hand grenade, which is practically always used for offensive purposes. The woman on the left is in casual American clothes while the woman on the right is in combat gear. This suggests they have vastly different intentions with their firearms. Furthermore, the woman on the left is holding a book that speaks strongly against violence while the same cannot be said for the woman on the right's book.

[Freefall11111]

The woman on the left likely has the gun for defensive purposes, as is the case for the vast majority of American gun owners. The women on the right will be more likely to use her gun, given the current political situation where I'm assuming she lives. The woman on the right also has a hand grenade, which is practically always used for offensive purposes. The woman on the left is in casual American clothes while the woman on the right is in combat gear. This suggests they have vastly different intentions with their firearms. Furthermore, the woman on the left is holding a book that speaks strongly against violence while the same cannot be said for the woman on the right's book.

I see you haven't read the Bible.

[Freefall11111]

Edit: Double post.

[Ralkovian Grand Island]

And they propose shit using God as an excuse that you know they'd raeg over if someone proposed it using Allah as an excuse.

B-but muh Judeo-christian values that in no way involve loving your neighbor or sharing the bounty, and they are also better than everyone else's!

But they do love their neighbour. It's just that the best way to love him is to apparently cram your religion down his and his children's throats at any opportunity.

I'll explain the difference. I can bang the one on the left, but the one on the right would probably *bang* me.

[Hakons]

The woman on the left likely has the gun for defensive purposes, as is the case for the vast majority of American gun owners. The women on the right will be more likely to use her gun, given the current political situation where I'm assuming she lives. The woman on the right also has a hand grenade, which is practically always used for offensive purposes. The woman on the left is in casual American clothes while the woman on the right is in combat gear. This suggests they have vastly different intentions with their firearms. Furthermore, the woman on the left is holding a book that speaks strongly against violence while the same cannot be said for the woman on the right's book.

I see you haven't read the Bible.

"But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you"
"The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these."
"Thou shalt not kill"

[Freefall11111]

I see you haven't read the Bible.

"But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you"
"The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these."
"Thou shalt not kill"

No violence in the Bible. No sir.

[Hakons]

"But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you"
"The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these."
"Thou shalt not kill"

No violence in the Bible. No sir.

My first two quotes were from God the Son. My third one was from God the Father. Your source was already biased. 90% of the examples were from the Old Testament. A quick read at the start of the source shows they're grasping at straws and conveniently leave out the reasons for the actions.

Regardless, no major sect of Christianity argues for violence against nonbelievers. Islam has a larger proportion of people that are OK with using violence.

[Freefall11111]

My first two quotes were from God the Son. My third one was from God the Father.

No, they were from whoever wrote the Bible.

Your source was already biased. 90% of the examples were from the Old Testament.

Which we can conveniently ignore, because cherrypicking is fun.

A quick read at the start of the source shows they're grasping at straws and conveniently leave out the reasons for the actions.

So you're saying violence is justified?

Regardless, no major sect of Christianity argues for violence against nonbelievers.

Any longer, that is. Didn't stop them a couple of centuries back.

[Impireacht]

Both parties have problems... far left views are generally shiny-happy and impossible, and far right is usually oppressive in some way. The center is beautiful.

As for current candidates, both Trump and Hillary are equally awful.

[Ostroeuropa]

HuffPo joins Vox Editor in celebrating and defending violence against Trump Supporters.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-ben ... 16186.html

Understanding European anti-fascists use of violent tactics to shut down large rallies from White Supremacists can be illustrative here.

Speaking of European anti-fascists, they also recently decided to demonstrate how tolerant and not prejudiced they are by beating the shit out of a music concert because participants were bald white guys.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06 ... ose-cover/

(Notably, the BBC is aware and has acknowledged they are misleadingly reporting the issue, but have not ammended the article they posted about it, merely refering to "Clashes" and "Arrests" without pointing out it was Leftist violence, and was unopposed.)

The anti-immigration protestors in Brighton that weekend were from a group called the “Pie and Mash Squad”. However, a peaceful, non-racist and non-political group had met for a music festival called the ‘Great Skin Head Reunion’ on the same day.

Ms. Ortiz admitted that her fellow left-wingers might have got “confused”.

[Hakons]

No, they were from whoever wrote the Bible.

The people who wrote the Bible were enlightened through the Holy Spirit. Thus, it is God's word. Though given you sourced a bias online "annotated Bible," I have to wonder whether you actual know much about Christianity.

Which we can conveniently ignore, because cherrypicking is fun.

Not cherrypicking, prioritizing by the instruction of Jesus.
"'Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?'
Jesus replied: ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

So you're saying violence is justified?

God created the world and demanded respect. If your child deliberately disobeyed you thousands of times, punishment is due.

Any longer, that is. Didn't stop them a couple of centuries back.

And state secularism gave us the USSR. But that's in the past. We're talking about right now.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAnyway, let's stop threadjacking.

[Liberaxia]

No, they were from whoever wrote the Bible.

The people who wrote the Bible were enlightened through the Holy Spirit. Thus, it is God's word. Though given you sourced a bias online "annotated Bible," I have to wonder whether you actual know much about Christianity.

Which we can conveniently ignore, because cherrypicking is fun.

Not cherrypicking, prioritizing by the instruction of Jesus.
"'Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?'
Jesus replied: ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

So you're saying violence is justified?

God created the world and demanded respect. If your child deliberately disobeyed you thousands of times, punishment is due.

Any longer, that is. Didn't stop them a couple of centuries back.

And state secularism gave us the USSR. But that's in the past. We're talking about right now.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAnyway, let's stop threadjacking.

Funny thing for a socialist to say.

[Hakons]

The people who wrote the Bible were enlightened through the Holy Spirit. Thus, it is God's word. Though given you sourced a bias online "annotated Bible," I have to wonder whether you actual know much about Christianity.


Not cherrypicking, prioritizing by the instruction of Jesus.
"'Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?'
Jesus replied: ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”


God created the world and demanded respect. If your child deliberately disobeyed you thousands of times, punishment is due.



And state secularism gave us the USSR. But that's in the past. We're talking about right now.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAnyway, let's stop threadjacking.

Funny thing for a socialist to say.

Dem Socialist, an American Dem Socialist, and Methodist resident of Indiana. Not surprising at all

[Kubra]

The people who wrote the Bible were enlightened through the Holy Spirit. Thus, it is God's word. Though given you sourced a bias online "annotated Bible," I have to wonder whether you actual know much about Christianity.


Not cherrypicking, prioritizing by the instruction of Jesus.
"'Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?'
Jesus replied: ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”


God created the world and demanded respect. If your child deliberately disobeyed you thousands of times, punishment is due.



And state secularism gave us the USSR. But that's in the past. We're talking about right now.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAnyway, let's stop threadjacking.

Funny thing for a socialist to say.

Is it?

[Zoice]

No, they were from whoever wrote the Bible.

The people who wrote the Bible were enlightened through the Holy Spirit. Thus, it is God's word. Though given you sourced a bias online "annotated Bible," I have to wonder whether you actual know much about Christianity.

How do you know they were enlightened through the Holy Spirit? Sounds like you're using a circuluar argument.

Which we can conveniently ignore, because cherrypicking is fun.

Not cherrypicking, prioritizing by the instruction of Jesus.
"'Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?'
Jesus replied: ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

So you're saying violence is justified?

God created the world and demanded respect. If your child deliberately disobeyed you thousands of times, punishment is due.

Maybe you should teach the child better, then.

Any longer, that is. Didn't stop them a couple of centuries back.

And state secularism gave us the USSR. But that's in the past. We're talking about right now.

No, state secularism gave us the USA.

[Heidisteinian Fempire]

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/crime/don ... -1.2473277
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/joh ... 5ebde593d4
Come on guys.

[UED]

Neither side holds the moral high ground, but to be honest I honestly feel that in general the American right claims to hold the moral high ground more (I know the left claims this a lot this election year though). Like Gay marriage is viewed as something that will "harm the children" and abortion rights is "baby killing". Now it's understandable why but given how many abortion clinics have been shot up it really downplays the argument.

On the left, the anti-Trump rallies are becoming a bit too violent. Fighting bigotry and racism with violence isn't the answer, so these anti-trump protestors should really stop attacking trump supporters. (Though To be honest Trump supporters also attack Anti-Trump supporters so basically both sides have a shitload of violence)