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Postby Natapoc » Sun May 02, 2010 12:28 pm

The Galirandi wrote:Image

Economic Left/Right: 1.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.13

Last time I took it I was somewhere in the vicinity of (0.88, -5.69), I think. Based on my political views relative to those of the rest of my family and friends, though, I've always felt my social scores to be a few points too high, with the -9 to -10 range being more accurate.

I wonder how they calculate these things?


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Postby Our L Lawliet » Sun May 02, 2010 12:31 pm

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Hmm, I'm a bit more to the left than last time, but I still have the same libertarian score. It looks about right to me, though I don't really know how the scoring works.

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Postby The Adrian Empire » Sun May 02, 2010 12:31 pm

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A little bit from my previous, I think I was wishy washy on a few more economic issues, that one shareholder question I always answer differently
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Postby The Galirandi » Sun May 02, 2010 12:36 pm

Natapoc wrote:
The Galirandi wrote:
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Economic Left/Right: 1.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.13

Last time I took it I was somewhere in the vicinity of (0.88, -5.69), I think. Based on my political views relative to those of the rest of my family and friends, though, I've always felt my social scores to be a few points too high, with the -9 to -10 range being more accurate.

I wonder how they calculate these things?


Do you believe the government should not exist, prisons should not exist, ect.

Government? Ideally it wouldn't be necessary. In practice, some government is desirable, although honestly I don't trust it as far as I can throw it, and the ultimate aim of society should be to reach a state where we can get rid of government altogether. Prisons? No reason for them. Violation of basic human rights and waste of resources -- the reason criminal actions are criminal is because of the harm they do to people and society, but causing more harm to people and society to deal with them seems pointless.

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Postby The Tofu Islands » Sun May 02, 2010 12:42 pm

The Galirandi wrote:I wonder how they calculate these things?

Not having access to their exact method, I can't be sure, however the way that I think it's done is each proposition has an axis and a direction attached to it. The axis determines which axis it affects, and the direct determines which way around agreeing and disagreeing works. When you select the option, it either adds or subtracts 10 (if you strongly agree/disagree) or 5 (if you only normally do). At the end of the test, the totals for each axis are taken, they are divided by the number of questions affecting that axis, and the result is given.

It might be a bit more complex then that, with different questions altering the scores by different amounts, however that is probably the general method.

(Hopefully that made at least some sense...)
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Postby Natapoc » Sun May 02, 2010 12:59 pm

The Galirandi wrote:
Natapoc wrote:
The Galirandi wrote:
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Economic Left/Right: 1.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.13

Last time I took it I was somewhere in the vicinity of (0.88, -5.69), I think. Based on my political views relative to those of the rest of my family and friends, though, I've always felt my social scores to be a few points too high, with the -9 to -10 range being more accurate.

I wonder how they calculate these things?


Do you believe the government should not exist, prisons should not exist, ect.

Government? Ideally it wouldn't be necessary. In practice, some government is desirable, although honestly I don't trust it as far as I can throw it, and the ultimate aim of society should be to reach a state where we can get rid of government altogether. Prisons? No reason for them. Violation of basic human rights and waste of resources -- the reason criminal actions are criminal is because of the harm they do to people and society, but causing more harm to people and society to deal with them seems pointless.


You must have picked some measures that indicated you supported the existence of governments, prisons, restrictions on use of substances, death penalty, ect.

To get -10 you cannot support any authoritarian power structure (not even a little bit).
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Postby Volnotov » Sun May 02, 2010 2:46 pm

Let's see.

Political Compass:

Left-Right: -5.50
Authoritarian-Libertarian: 2.67

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Left: 4.4, Authoritarian: 5.98

I'm sure this suprised everyone... :roll:

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Postby The Zoogie People » Sun May 02, 2010 2:51 pm

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EC -0.5, SOC -4.97

I'm a bit surprised myself so I've always been on the right of the EC side. That's still what I consider myself. Guess I've gotten a little soft.

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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Sun May 02, 2010 3:18 pm

hmm... apparently i never posted in this thread...

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Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 7.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.51


Sounds about right, although the authoritarian score is skewed by morality questions I think, as oppsoed to what I think the government should be allowed to regulate.
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Postby Hex Omega » Sun May 02, 2010 3:24 pm

I always disliked this compass... I always wanted one that measured politics against its economic and social value instead of such arbitrary and transient cultural stigmas like "left" and "right."

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Postby The Grand World Order » Sun May 02, 2010 3:25 pm

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Economic: 4.38
Social Authoritarian: 8.13

Just what I expected. I'm apparently right between Hitler and Thatcher.
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Postby The Adrian Empire » Sun May 02, 2010 3:28 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:hmm... apparently i never posted in this thread...

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Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 7.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.51


Sounds about right, although the authoritarian score is skewed by morality questions I think, as oppsoed to what I think the government should be allowed to regulate.

I have the same problem too, I have morals reservations about certain things, but I don't want the government to enforce those morals, that's why I have started answering the questions not in concern for my morals but in concern for what I think the nation should enforce, it pushed me quite a bit further down the spectrum
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Sun May 02, 2010 3:30 pm

The Adrian Empire wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:hmm... apparently i never posted in this thread...

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Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 7.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.51


Sounds about right, although the authoritarian score is skewed by morality questions I think, as oppsoed to what I think the government should be allowed to regulate.

I have the same problem too, I have morals reservations about certain things, but I don't want the government to enforce those morals, that's why I have started answering the questions not in concern for my morals but in concern for what I think the nation should enforce, it pushed me quite a bit further down the spectrum

I've done that before as well, I think I got around -3.5 social, which makes sense, since I do believe in some power structure as necessary.
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Postby Liinajalad » Sun May 02, 2010 3:31 pm

Economic Left/Right: -6.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.21
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Not that unexpected.
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Sun May 02, 2010 3:31 pm

Hex Omega wrote:I always disliked this compass... I always wanted one that measured politics against its economic and social value instead of such arbitrary and transient cultural stigmas like "left" and "right."

:eyebrow:

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you here, but it does measure economic and social values.
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Postby Conservative Alliances » Sun May 02, 2010 4:14 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
The Adrian Empire wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:hmm... apparently i never posted in this thread...

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Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 7.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.51


Sounds about right, although the authoritarian score is skewed by morality questions I think, as oppsoed to what I think the government should be allowed to regulate.

I have the same problem too, I have morals reservations about certain things, but I don't want the government to enforce those morals, that's why I have started answering the questions not in concern for my morals but in concern for what I think the nation should enforce, it pushed me quite a bit further down the spectrum

I've done that before as well, I think I got around -3.5 social, which makes sense, since I do believe in some power structure as necessary.

I have the same problem. My personal views are very conservative, but I do not believe the federal government should enforce them. It is a code to live by, not word of law.
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Postby Qwcasd » Sun May 02, 2010 4:20 pm

Conservative Alliances wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:
The Adrian Empire wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:hmm... apparently i never posted in this thread...

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Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 7.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.51


Sounds about right, although the authoritarian score is skewed by morality questions I think, as oppsoed to what I think the government should be allowed to regulate.

I have the same problem too, I have morals reservations about certain things, but I don't want the government to enforce those morals, that's why I have started answering the questions not in concern for my morals but in concern for what I think the nation should enforce, it pushed me quite a bit further down the spectrum

I've done that before as well, I think I got around -3.5 social, which makes sense, since I do believe in some power structure as necessary.

I have the same problem. My personal views are very conservative, but I do not believe the federal government should enforce them. It is a code to live by, not word of law.


I remember you old score.. you seem to moved a little left economically... only like 0.75 though.

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Postby Natapoc » Sun May 02, 2010 4:23 pm

Conservative Alliances wrote:I have the same problem. My personal views are very conservative, but I do not believe the federal government should enforce them. It is a code to live by, not word of law.


Yes this is a huge problem with most tests. They fail to separate: I find behavior x unethical, immoral, evil, ect from I want government to pass laws restricting the ability of people to do x.
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Postby Conservative Alliances » Sun May 02, 2010 4:34 pm

Natapoc wrote:
Conservative Alliances wrote:I have the same problem. My personal views are very conservative, but I do not believe the federal government should enforce them. It is a code to live by, not word of law.


Yes this is a huge problem with most tests. They fail to separate: I find behavior x unethical, immoral, evil, ect from I want government to pass laws restricting the ability of people to do x.

So, the question is, am I a libertarian or a conservative?
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Postby Natapoc » Sun May 02, 2010 4:36 pm

Conservative Alliances wrote:
Natapoc wrote:
Conservative Alliances wrote:I have the same problem. My personal views are very conservative, but I do not believe the federal government should enforce them. It is a code to live by, not word of law.


Yes this is a huge problem with most tests. They fail to separate: I find behavior x unethical, immoral, evil, ect from I want government to pass laws restricting the ability of people to do x.

So, the question is, am I a libertarian or a conservative?


I don't know what you want the government(or others with equivalent power) to enforce so I don't know. Answer any question with "should" as if it said "should the government allow"
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Postby Central Slavia » Sun May 02, 2010 4:39 pm

The Galirandi wrote:

Government? Ideally it wouldn't be necessary. In practice, some government is desirable, although honestly I don't trust it as far as I can throw it, and the ultimate aim of society should be to reach a state where we can get rid of government altogether. Prisons? No reason for them. Violation of basic human rights and waste of resources -- the reason criminal actions are criminal is because of the harm they do to people and society, but causing more harm to people and society to deal with them seems pointless.


Please tell me you are not serious, or at least that you support execution or at least exile of villains.
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Postby Faith Hope Charity » Sun May 02, 2010 4:48 pm

I'm Far Right Libertarian, a bit more Minarchist then this test would suggest tho.
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Postby South Qantar » Sun May 02, 2010 4:49 pm

I always fluctuate around the same area. I tend to interperet the questions a little differently each time. Usually further to the right and to the south. I guess I was feeling unusually utilitarian today.

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It makes sense that I fluctuate, as I'm still looking for where exactly in that quadrant I belong. I don't see necessity in the state, and find it to be generally coercive and abusive, but at the same time I do fear for the very very core services that the government provides, i.e, military, police and court going to the private sector. We'll iron it all out soon enough, I hope.
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Postby Volnotov » Sun May 02, 2010 5:01 pm

South Qantar wrote:I always fluctuate around the same area. I tend to interperet the questions a little differently each time. Usually further to the right and to the south. I guess I was feeling unusually utilitarian today.

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It makes sense that I fluctuate, as I'm still looking for where exactly in that quadrant I belong. I don't see necessity in the state, and find it to be generally coercive and abusive, but at the same time I do fear for the very very core services that the government provides, i.e, military, police and court going to the private sector. We'll iron it all out soon enough, I hope.


I do not per definition fear the goverment, but this may well change per country.

I abhor the current goverment, and I am hugely in favor of a huge omnipresent fiercly nationalistic/patriotic goverment that put it's citizens and nation's interests above everything else. Including goverment owned companies and using the profits of those companies to pay for goverment expenses, thus making it able to lower tax without having decrease education, healthcare, defence and law & order spending(I am also of a minimum wage and labour laws and in favour of social welfare, but only a little, meaning no over the top unemployment benefits. I am in favour of free goverment owned day care though, mostly because it makes it able for women to work.).

I am also in favour of private enterprise, including private healthcare, education, security(as long as they abide law) and even mercenary armies. But I do believe corporations should abide by certain laws and restrictions to prevent environmental damage and the exploitation of workers.

And I oppose all taxes except income tax(wich should be progressive in my opinion) and tax on unhealthy goods like alcohol and tobacco(if you wan't to live unhealthy, fine - but atleast pay for your healthcare expences).

So the question is, am I left, right or both? Because my laws favour both capitalism and socialism in my opinion. Sure, I am socially authoritarian. But I am not too sure about my economic policy.
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