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This is cool. By arriving back on the scene, cutting in right when everyone is talking about Lamar Jackson's amazing skills, I'm doing the same thing my favorite team did.

Anyway, why are the Colts more hyped than the Titans? Doesn't make sense to me.

RiderSyl wrote:Anyway, why are the Colts more hyped than the Titans? Doesn't make sense to me.

Cause a lot of people think Tennessee were a fluke last season.

RiderSyl wrote:This is cool. By arriving back on the scene, cutting in right when everyone is talking about Lamar Jackson's amazing skills, I'm doing the same thing my favorite team did.

Anyway, why are the Colts more hyped than the Titans? Doesn't make sense to me.

One had Peyton Manning and currently has the bum known as Philip Rivers, the other had One Yard Short and currently has Ryan Tannehill.

Ranoria wrote:

Jerzylvania wrote:
huh? Lethally accurate must be some kind of new terminology no one understands. Lethal in football = winning. Jackson is 21-5 (.808 win percentage) as a starter and unanimous NFL MVP. If that isn't lethal, then I just don't know how to be accurate.

Matt Cassel went 11-5. So did Josh Allen. Let’s not get carried away here with lethally accurate meaning wins.

Your fishing without any bait.

Ameriganastan wrote:

RiderSyl wrote:Anyway, why are the Colts more hyped than the Titans? Doesn't make sense to me.

Cause a lot of people think Tennessee were a fluke last season.

Based on what, exactly? We changed quarterbacks, then we were miles better with him under center. We still have that quarterback as our starter going into this season. Even if there's regression, Tannehill was so ridiculously good back there for us, it'll still make for a repeat performance.

Impaled Nazarene wrote:One had Peyton Manning and currently has the bum known as Philip Rivers, the other had One Yard Short and currently has Ryan Tannehill.

Derrick Henry

RiderSyl wrote:

Ameriganastan wrote:Cause a lot of people think Tennessee were a fluke last season.

Based on what, exactly? We changed quarterbacks, then we were miles better with him under center. We still have that quarterback as our starter going into this season. Even if there's regression, Tannehill was so ridiculously good back there for us, it'll still make for a repeat performance.

Impaled Nazarene wrote:One had Peyton Manning and currently has the bum known as Philip Rivers, the other had One Yard Short and currently has Ryan Tannehill.

Derrick Henry

Lol Mariota was so bad he lost the starting job to Tannehill.

Outer Sparta wrote:Lol Mariota was so bad he lost the starting job to Tannehill.

Thankfully Tannehill decided he didn't want to go out like Mariota, and started playing the best football of his life

RiderSyl wrote:

Outer Sparta wrote:Lol Mariota was so bad he lost the starting job to Tannehill.

Thankfully Tannehill decided he didn't want to go out like Mariota, and started playing the best football of his life

At least they have a decent QB instead of those washed-up journeymen who always get signed and tossed into the scrap heap.

RiderSyl wrote:

Ameriganastan wrote:Cause a lot of people think Tennessee were a fluke last season.

Based on what, exactly? We changed quarterbacks, then we were miles better with him under center. We still have that quarterback as our starter going into this season. Even if there's regression, Tannehill was so ridiculously good back there for us, it'll still make for a repeat performance.

Impaled Nazarene wrote:One had Peyton Manning and currently has the bum known as Philip Rivers, the other had One Yard Short and currently has Ryan Tannehill.

Derrick Henry

Quarterback.

RiderSyl wrote:Derrick Henry

Exactly. Face it, Henry was your entire offense last season. And people know that now. So your boys better learn some new tricks if they wanna prove they're for real.

Ameriganastan wrote:

RiderSyl wrote:Derrick Henry

Exactly. Face it, Henry was your entire offense last season. And people know that now. So your boys better learn some new tricks if they wanna prove they're for real.

Then why couldnt he do squat when it was Mariota under center. Because Tannehill runs a pretty good passing game. A game good enough he did better against the Cheifs D than Jimmy G did.

Minimark wrote:

Ameriganastan wrote:Exactly. Face it, Henry was your entire offense last season. And people know that now. So your boys better learn some new tricks if they wanna prove they're for real.

Then why couldnt he do squat when it was Mariota under center. Because Tannehill runs a pretty good passing game. A game good enough he did better against the Cheifs D than Jimmy G did.

Something we all should have learned over the years is that an elite QB surely helps a team, but isn't necessarily required to be a contender. The Ravens won the Super Bowl with Trent Dilfer. The Bears made it to the big game with ol' Sexy Rexy Grossman. Joe Flacco isn't exactly a superstar either, but he's got a ring. If the running game and defense are good enough, all you really need is for your QB to make a few decent throws here and there, avoid missing open guys and not throw the ball to the wrong team. Tannehill seems like he can manage that.

Idzequitch wrote:

Minimark wrote:
Then why couldnt he do squat when it was Mariota under center. Because Tannehill runs a pretty good passing game. A game good enough he did better against the Cheifs D than Jimmy G did.

Something we all should have learned over the years is that an elite QB surely helps a team, but isn't necessarily required to be a contender. The Ravens won the Super Bowl with Trent Dilfer. The Bears made it to the big game with ol' Sexy Rexy Grossman. Joe Flacco isn't exactly a superstar either, but he's got a ring. If the running game and defense are good enough, all you really need is for your QB to make a few decent throws here and there, avoid missing open guys and not throw the ball to the wrong team. Tannehill seems like he can manage that.

You do need a whole team, for sure. If you don't, not even Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees can carry you all the way there.

*Cries in desperate need of a solid secondary that doesn't glitch in big games.*

Luminesa wrote:

Idzequitch wrote:Something we all should have learned over the years is that an elite QB surely helps a team, but isn't necessarily required to be a contender. The Ravens won the Super Bowl with Trent Dilfer. The Bears made it to the big game with ol' Sexy Rexy Grossman. Joe Flacco isn't exactly a superstar either, but he's got a ring. If the running game and defense are good enough, all you really need is for your QB to make a few decent throws here and there, avoid missing open guys and not throw the ball to the wrong team. Tannehill seems like he can manage that.

You do need a whole team, for sure. If you don't, not even Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees can carry you all the way there.

*Cries in desperate need of a solid secondary that doesn't glitch in big games.*

*Marcus Williams enters the chat*

Outer Sparta wrote:

Luminesa wrote:You do need a whole team, for sure. If you don't, not even Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees can carry you all the way there.

*Cries in desperate need of a solid secondary that doesn't glitch in big games.*

*Marcus Williams enters the chat*

*SCREAMS.*

RiderSyl wrote:This is cool. By arriving back on the scene, cutting in right when everyone is talking about Lamar Jackson's amazing skills, I'm doing the same thing my favorite team did.

Anyway, why are the Colts more hyped than the Titans? Doesn't make sense to me.

Colts have a very strong roster. Offensive line is nasty, TY Hilton doesn't get a ton of press but he's still over there, and Darius Leonard and Justin Houston. Mack's a bit overrated but he can get the job done, and I'm 100% a believer in Rivers. Besides that, Tennessee is a small market team, relatively, so they don't get near as much press.

Other is people thinking Tennessee was a fluke. I think with Tannehill under center, even if he regresses to somewhere between last season and his norm, we'll be good to go. Mariota's 2017 and 2018 production was a sin against god and we went 9-7, so I think we'll be okay.

Outer Sparta wrote:

RiderSyl wrote:Based on what, exactly? We changed quarterbacks, then we were miles better with him under center. We still have that quarterback as our starter going into this season. Even if there's regression, Tannehill was so ridiculously good back there for us, it'll still make for a repeat performance.


Derrick Henry

Lol Mariota was so bad he lost the starting job to Tannehill.

Please don't remind me. I'm still really sad about Mariota. That guy had the potential to take over the league, but he just got beaten into the dirt again and again, lost his confidence, Tim Couch or David Carr like. Very sad. I mean, at his best he could pull Lamar like crap* with his athleticism and the guy made some of the stupidest throws I've ever seen. Just completely lost it after that injury and the sacks the next season.

*Disclaimer: Granted, Mariota's peak athletic feats were more Lamar's highlight every week or three.

Idzequitch wrote:

Minimark wrote:
Then why couldnt he do squat when it was Mariota under center. Because Tannehill runs a pretty good passing game. A game good enough he did better against the Cheifs D than Jimmy G did.

Something we all should have learned over the years is that an elite QB surely helps a team, but isn't necessarily required to be a contender. The Ravens won the Super Bowl with Trent Dilfer. The Bears made it to the big game with ol' Sexy Rexy Grossman. Joe Flacco isn't exactly a superstar either, but he's got a ring. If the running game and defense are good enough, all you really need is for your QB to make a few decent throws here and there, avoid missing open guys and not throw the ball to the wrong team. Tannehill seems like he can manage that.

But Joe Flacco won a Super Bowl MVP and broke Joe Montana's record of TD passes in a post season without an int. Furthermore, Joe Flacco and even Trent Dilfer should never EVER be in the same sentence with Rex Grossman. Rex was a loser. He finished his SB with 165 yards a touchdown, two ints and two fumbles. That's a 68.3 quarterback rating. Flacco did far better than that. As a Raven fan, I know you (a Steeler fan) would want to make these kind of bogus comparisons. But it does let me know what teams player's own space inside your head.

Jerzylvania wrote:

Idzequitch wrote:Something we all should have learned over the years is that an elite QB surely helps a team, but isn't necessarily required to be a contender. The Ravens won the Super Bowl with Trent Dilfer. The Bears made it to the big game with ol' Sexy Rexy Grossman. Joe Flacco isn't exactly a superstar either, but he's got a ring. If the running game and defense are good enough, all you really need is for your QB to make a few decent throws here and there, avoid missing open guys and not throw the ball to the wrong team. Tannehill seems like he can manage that.

But Joe Flacco won a Super Bowl MVP and broke Joe Montana's record of TD passes in a post season without an int. Furthermore, Joe Flacco and even Trent Dilfer should never EVER be in the same sentence with Rex Grossman. Rex was a loser. He finished his SB with 165 yards a touchdown, two ints and two fumbles. That's a 68.3 quarterback rating. Flacco did far better than that. As a Raven fan, I know you (a Steeler fan) would want to make these kind of bogus comparisons. But it does let me know what teams player's own space inside your head.

One being inside one other's head...

Ah...

Two words, offensive shifts

Jerzylvania wrote:But Joe Flacco won a Super Bowl MVP and broke Joe Montana's record of TD passes in a post season without an int. Furthermore, Joe Flacco and even Trent Dilfer should never EVER be in the same sentence with Rex Grossman. Rex was a loser. He finished his SB with 165 yards a touchdown, two ints and two fumbles. That's a 68.3 quarterback rating. Flacco did far better than that. As a Raven fan, I know you (a Steeler fan) would want to make these kind of bogus comparisons. But it does let me know what teams player's own space inside your head.

And after that Super Bowl, he got paid too damn much and proceeded to implode as a player.

Ameriganastan wrote:

Jerzylvania wrote:But Joe Flacco won a Super Bowl MVP and broke Joe Montana's record of TD passes in a post season without an int. Furthermore, Joe Flacco and even Trent Dilfer should never EVER be in the same sentence with Rex Grossman. Rex was a loser. He finished his SB with 165 yards a touchdown, two ints and two fumbles. That's a 68.3 quarterback rating. Flacco did far better than that. As a Raven fan, I know you (a Steeler fan) would want to make these kind of bogus comparisons. But it does let me know what teams player's own space inside your head.

And after that Super Bowl, he got paid too damn much and proceeded to implode as a player.

Indeed, he did get paid too much. And it hurt the team. And that's what an agent is paid to do, fucking a$$holes. He had a damn good season in '14 but got both sides of a knee blowed up the next November. Never been the same since. But Joe was always massively better than small contract Rex Grossman... whose agent had absolutely nothing at all to work with. I don't know what the Jets had in mind signing Joe. They have loaded up on former Raven personnel in the front office. Maybe they know something we don't. Like, for instance, Sam Darnold isn't getting Mono again, or never ever missing a game again? Cause that's the only way I'd have signed Flacco as their back-up. But I am sure glad the Jets took Darnold instead of Lamar too. Obviously the Jets know what they're doing, right?

Ameriganastan wrote:

RiderSyl wrote:Derrick Henry

Exactly. Face it, Henry was your entire offense last season.

That'll be news to AJ Brown.

Jerzylvania wrote:

Ameriganastan wrote:And after that Super Bowl, he got paid too damn much and proceeded to implode as a player.

Indeed, he did get paid too much. And it hurt the team. And that's what an agent is paid to do, fucking a$$holes. He had a damn good season in '14 but got both sides of a knee blowed up the next November. Never been the same since. But Joe was always massively better than small contract Rex Grossman... whose agent had absolutely nothing at all to work with. I don't know what the Jets had in mind signing Joe. They have loaded up on former Raven personnel in the front office. Maybe they know something we don't. Like, for instance, Sam Darnold isn't getting Mono again, or never ever missing a game again? Cause that's the only way I'd have signed Flacco as their back-up. But I am sure glad the Jets took Darnold instead of Lamar too. Obviously the Jets know what they're doing, right?

The NY Jete* do not understand what the draft is all about, they never have.

Tombradyonia wrote:

Jerzylvania wrote:
Indeed, he did get paid too much. And it hurt the team. And that's what an agent is paid to do, fucking a$$holes. He had a damn good season in '14 but got both sides of a knee blowed up the next November. Never been the same since. But Joe was always massively better than small contract Rex Grossman... whose agent had absolutely nothing at all to work with. I don't know what the Jets had in mind signing Joe. They have loaded up on former Raven personnel in the front office. Maybe they know something we don't. Like, for instance, Sam Darnold isn't getting Mono again, or never ever missing a game again? Cause that's the only way I'd have signed Flacco as their back-up. But I am sure glad the Jets took Darnold instead of Lamar too. Obviously the Jets know what they're doing, right?

The NY Jete* do not understand what the draft is all about, they never have.

New York Jets first round selection... fullback... *OH NOOOOO!!!* Roger Vick, Texas A&M.

Outer Sparta wrote:

Tombradyonia wrote:
The NY Jete* do not understand what the draft is all about, they never have.

New York Jets first round selection... fullback... *OH NOOOOO!!!* Roger Vick, Texas A&M.

I miss Rozelle and Tagliabue. They trolled the fuck out of the Jete

Jerzylvania wrote:

Idzequitch wrote:Something we all should have learned over the years is that an elite QB surely helps a team, but isn't necessarily required to be a contender. The Ravens won the Super Bowl with Trent Dilfer. The Bears made it to the big game with ol' Sexy Rexy Grossman. Joe Flacco isn't exactly a superstar either, but he's got a ring. If the running game and defense are good enough, all you really need is for your QB to make a few decent throws here and there, avoid missing open guys and not throw the ball to the wrong team. Tannehill seems like he can manage that.

But Joe Flacco won a Super Bowl MVP and broke Joe Montana's record of TD passes in a post season without an int. Furthermore, Joe Flacco and even Trent Dilfer should never EVER be in the same sentence with Rex Grossman. Rex was a loser. He finished his SB with 165 yards a touchdown, two ints and two fumbles. That's a 68.3 quarterback rating. Flacco did far better than that. As a Raven fan, I know you (a Steeler fan) would want to make these kind of bogus comparisons. But it does let me know what teams player's own space inside your head.

I tried to differentiate between the likes of Dilfer/Grossman and Flacco. All I said was that he wasn't a superstar (he wasn't, isn't, and never will be). Don't get me wrong, Joe was solid enough for you. Which just sort of proves the point I was making about Tannehill. At the end of the day, take it as a complement that your team was good enough to win the big game, once with an average QB, and once with a subpar one.