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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:02 pm
by Hydesland
Ostroeuropa wrote:McDonnel Cambell interview:

"Last time you cried?" - C
"I saw a documentary on rail privatization and-" - M

"lol straight to privatization" - C
"...and the documentary contained one of my constituents. He was a victim of the privatization. He was a train driver. I attended his funeral, and seeing him again brought it all back." - M

<cue curb your enthusiasm music>


What is he even referring to? Trains have only become safer over time, for drivers and passengers.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:03 pm
by The Rich Port
Hydesland wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:McDonnel Cambell interview:

"Last time you cried?" - C
"I saw a documentary on rail privatization and-" - M

"lol straight to privatization" - C
"...and the documentary contained one of my constituents. He was a victim of the privatization. He was a train driver. I attended his funeral, and seeing him again brought it all back." - M

<cue curb your enthusiasm music>


What is he even referring to? Trains have only become safer over time, for drivers and passengers.


Apparently trains are overall somehow more deadly than planes.

I think people are forgetting that pedestrians are idiots and they're probably included in train accident reports.

Planes are death traps kids don't do them >_>

PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:16 pm
by Ostroeuropa
Hydesland wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:McDonnel Cambell interview:

"Last time you cried?" - C
"I saw a documentary on rail privatization and-" - M

"lol straight to privatization" - C
"...and the documentary contained one of my constituents. He was a victim of the privatization. He was a train driver. I attended his funeral, and seeing him again brought it all back." - M

<cue curb your enthusiasm music>


What is he even referring to? Trains have only become safer over time, for drivers and passengers.


The dude lost his livelihood. He was on the documentary to talk about his experience. Later, for unrelated reasons, he died, and McDonnell attended his funeral as he knew him personally. Then McDonnell saw the documentary.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:49 pm
by Greed and Death
Hydesland wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:McDonnel Cambell interview:

"Last time you cried?" - C
"I saw a documentary on rail privatization and-" - M

"lol straight to privatization" - C
"...and the documentary contained one of my constituents. He was a victim of the privatization. He was a train driver. I attended his funeral, and seeing him again brought it all back." - M

<cue curb your enthusiasm music>


What is he even referring to? Trains have only become safer over time, for drivers and passengers.


When a rail system is privatized the capitalist send goons to kill the former employees.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:53 pm
by Shrillland
The Rich Port wrote:
Hydesland wrote:
What is he even referring to? Trains have only become safer over time, for drivers and passengers.


Apparently trains are overall somehow more deadly than planes.

I think people are forgetting that pedestrians are idiots and they're probably included in train accident reports.

Planes are death traps kids don't do them >_>



Actually, the rail privitisation of the 90s did lead to a sharp increase in derailments and deadly collisions. So much so, in fact, that the government renationalised the railways while allowing the trains themselves to remain private.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:03 pm
by Greed and Death
Shrillland wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Apparently trains are overall somehow more deadly than planes.

I think people are forgetting that pedestrians are idiots and they're probably included in train accident reports.

Planes are death traps kids don't do them >_>



Actually, the rail privitisation of the 90s did lead to a sharp increase in derailments and deadly collisions. So much so, in fact, that the government renationalised the railways while allowing the trains themselves to remain private.



The data doesn't support that.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/m ... 607991.stm

Most analysis show 150 more people would have died if the government retained ownership. Government rail is sort of like government housing, inevitably the government encases it in something flammable to save money.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:35 pm
by Greater vakolicci haven
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Hydesland wrote:
What is he even referring to? Trains have only become safer over time, for drivers and passengers.


The dude lost his livelihood. He was on the documentary to talk about his experience. Later, for unrelated reasons, he died, and McDonnell attended his funeral as he knew him personally. Then McDonnell saw the documentary.

Sounds a lot like he was using the guys death for sympathy.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 3:22 am
by The Free Neanderthal Tribes
"You hate us, but if you vote for the guy who expects us to pay a reasonable and sustainable amount towards maintaining the system which supported us, and which allowed us to horde more wealth than we could snort in 12 lifetimes, we'll throw our toys out of the pram and leave. So... Don't vote for him. Vote for the other guy, the blond guy with the mistresses, and the suspicious business connections. No, not Trump, the other one. Ah crap, I'm not good at this..."

-Heavily abridged quote from billionaire Steve Stilton, who was interviewed in relation to today's Guardian article.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:15 am
by Greater vakolicci haven
The Free Neanderthal Tribes wrote:"You hate us, but if you vote for the guy who expects us to pay a reasonable and sustainable amount towards maintaining the system which supported us, and which allowed us to horde more wealth than we could snort in 12 lifetimes, we'll throw our toys out of the pram and leave. So... Don't vote for him. Vote for the other guy, the blond guy with the mistresses, and the suspicious business connections. No, not Trump, the other one. Ah crap, I'm not good at this..."

-Heavily abridged quote from billionaire Steve Stilton, who was interviewed in relation to today's Guardian article.

Being wealthy isn't hording.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:21 am
by Vassenor
The Free Neanderthal Tribes wrote:"You hate us, but if you vote for the guy who expects us to pay a reasonable and sustainable amount towards maintaining the system which supported us, and which allowed us to horde more wealth than we could snort in 12 lifetimes, we'll throw our toys out of the pram and leave. So... Don't vote for him. Vote for the other guy, the blond guy with the mistresses, and the suspicious business connections. No, not Trump, the other one. Ah crap, I'm not good at this..."

-Heavily abridged quote from billionaire Steve Stilton, who was interviewed in relation to today's Guardian article.


I believe the term you wanted was paraphrased. "Abridged" implies he said those words somewhere in the text and you've just condensed it.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:24 am
by Crysuko
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
The Free Neanderthal Tribes wrote:"You hate us, but if you vote for the guy who expects us to pay a reasonable and sustainable amount towards maintaining the system which supported us, and which allowed us to horde more wealth than we could snort in 12 lifetimes, we'll throw our toys out of the pram and leave. So... Don't vote for him. Vote for the other guy, the blond guy with the mistresses, and the suspicious business connections. No, not Trump, the other one. Ah crap, I'm not good at this..."

-Heavily abridged quote from billionaire Steve Stilton, who was interviewed in relation to today's Guardian article.

Being wealthy isn't hording.

When all you do is accrue massive amounts of money and do fuck all besides just sit on it, that sounds a wee bit like hording.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:27 am
by The Free Neanderthal Tribes
Vassenor wrote:
The Free Neanderthal Tribes wrote:"You hate us, but if you vote for the guy who expects us to pay a reasonable and sustainable amount towards maintaining the system which supported us, and which allowed us to horde more wealth than we could snort in 12 lifetimes, we'll throw our toys out of the pram and leave. So... Don't vote for him. Vote for the other guy, the blond guy with the mistresses, and the suspicious business connections. No, not Trump, the other one. Ah crap, I'm not good at this..."

-Heavily abridged quote from billionaire Steve Stilton, who was interviewed in relation to today's Guardian article.


I believe the term you wanted was paraphrased. "Abridged" implies he said those words somewhere in the text and you've just condensed it.
Oh jeez...
I know what abridged means...
It's by way of being a 'joke.' The word abridged is, in this context, being used for the purposes of comic understatement. (Hence the underlining, the bold, the italics... All the words that precede it...)
It's similar to saying 'I've slightly reformatted it.'

(I actually thought before I posted: Have I laid it on too thick and ruined the joke? Nope. People will still take a word you've written literally, and assume you are using it incorrectly by accident, rather than on purpose. Even when you make it this clear!)

PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:28 am
by Greater vakolicci haven
Crysuko wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Being wealthy isn't hording.

When all you do is accrue massive amounts of money and do fuck all besides just sit on it, that sounds a wee bit like hording.

Most people with vast amounts of wealth treat it like a tree. They water and feed it and it just keeps on growing! Really, how great is that?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:31 am
by Crysuko
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Crysuko wrote:When all you do is accrue massive amounts of money and do fuck all besides just sit on it, that sounds a wee bit like hording.

Most people with vast amounts of wealth treat it like a tree. They water and feed it and it just keeps on growing! Really, how great is that?

An actual tree at least generates oxygen and thus benefits the world. What good does a bunch of stuck up aristos sitting on absurdly large numbers do for anyone other than themselves and maybe their immediate circle.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:06 am
by The Archregimancy
I'm quietly relieved at the rugby result.

I had concerns about the impact of a victory parade in London in the middle of an election campaign; both on the broader result and on the result in Scotland.

It does raise an interesting technical point, though... Would it have been possible to hold a victory parade during the campaign, or would it have been necessary to postpone it to the second half of December?

I suppose one solution might have been to avoid having any politicians present, and simply have the parade led by the patron of the English Rugby Union (Prince Harry).

All a moot point now, of course.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:08 am
by Crysuko
The Archregimancy wrote:I'm quietly relieved at the rugby result.

I had concerns about the impact of a victory parade in London in the middle of an election campaign; both on the broader result and on the result in Scotland.

It does raise an interesting technical point, though... Would it have been possible to hold a victory parade during the campaign, or would it have been necessary to postpone it to the second half of December?

I suppose one solution might have been to avoid having any politicians present, and simply have the parade led by the patron of the English Rugby Union (Prince Harry).

All a moot point now, of course.

Let's go full accelerationist. All the spectacle! All the noise! All the drama!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:13 am
by Greater vakolicci haven
Crysuko wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Most people with vast amounts of wealth treat it like a tree. They water and feed it and it just keeps on growing! Really, how great is that?

An actual tree at least generates oxygen and thus benefits the world. What good does a bunch of stuck up aristos sitting on absurdly large numbers do for anyone other than themselves and maybe their immediate circle.

They often use it to benefit causes which they believe in.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:15 am
by Dumb Ideologies
Libdems announce plan to replay the rugby until it ends in the right result.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:24 am
by Crysuko
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Crysuko wrote:An actual tree at least generates oxygen and thus benefits the world. What good does a bunch of stuck up aristos sitting on absurdly large numbers do for anyone other than themselves and maybe their immediate circle.

They often use it to benefit causes which they believe in.

hahahhahahahahhahahhahahhhahhaha. Redistribute.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:25 am
by The Archregimancy
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Libdems announce plan to replay the rugby until it ends in the right result.


Alas, no amount of replaying would end with Scotland winning.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:36 am
by The Free Joy State
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Libdems announce plan to replay the rugby until it ends in the right result.

Nigel Farage, meanwhile, declares Murrayfield Stadium should be torn down, saying: "They lost. They should get over it and never try again."

PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:37 am
by Dumb Ideologies
The Archregimancy wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Libdems announce plan to replay the rugby until it ends in the right result.


Alas, no amount of replaying would end with Scotland winning.


After a few hundred thousand iterations the gods would get bored and start trying to sneak ringers into the tournament.

"As the new Scottish sensation Ochilleus scores his third try of the first half, pundits say only an unexpected heel injury could stop them now".

PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:38 am
by The New California Republic
The Archregimancy wrote:I'm quietly relieved at the rugby result.

I had concerns about the impact of a victory parade in London in the middle of an election campaign; both on the broader result and on the result in Scotland.

It does raise an interesting technical point, though... Would it have been possible to hold a victory parade during the campaign, or would it have been necessary to postpone it to the second half of December?

I suppose one solution might have been to avoid having any politicians present, and simply have the parade led by the patron of the English Rugby Union (Prince Harry).

All a moot point now, of course.

I care not for the sport of the throwing and kicking of the warped ball.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:40 am
by The Archregimancy
The Free Joy State wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Libdems announce plan to replay the rugby until it ends in the right result.

Nigel Farage, meanwhile, declares Murrayfield Stadium should be torn down, saying: "They lost. They should get over it and never try again."


While Jeremy Corbyn announces a plan to possibly reschedule the next Six Nations season, but only if he gets the opportunity to renegotiate the terms of the television deal, and then put it to a vote of party members as to whether not to accept the renegotiated deal, which will then impact whether or not he advises the participating unions whether they should accept his renegotiated deal.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:42 am
by An Alan Smithee Nation
The Free Joy State wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Libdems announce plan to replay the rugby until it ends in the right result.

Nigel Farage, meanwhile, declares Murrayfield Stadium should be torn down, saying: "They lost. They should get over it and never try again."


In Number 10 Boris Johnson says England are definitely going to win.