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Postby Novia Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:56 am

Lyrova wrote:I fully agree with the OP. Dogs, while being fun to own for the owner, are a net nuisance on the greater public because of their intrinsic attitude tendencies and, obviously, their excrement on public sidewalks. They should be banned from ownership.


I hope that was sarcasm.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:04 am

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Lyrova wrote:I fully agree with the OP. Dogs, while being fun to own for the owner, are a net nuisance on the greater public because of their intrinsic attitude tendencies and, obviously, their excrement on public sidewalks. They should be banned from ownership.

I hope that was sarcasm.

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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:06 am

I can't believe this is still going on....

Look kid, it was your own fault that you had that issue with that dog. You're acting naively, irrationally, and frankly as an entitled, selfish prick. You might not like Dogs, and that's fine, but the world doesn't revolve around your feelings or what you want, and it's not about to jump at your idiotic whims.

Dogs are necessary, maybe not for you, but for others, as companions, guides, guards, and they even protect YOUR safety as bomb and drug sniffers. So, have some respect.

Dogs are here to stay, deal with it.
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Postby Lavan Tiri » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:18 am

Salus Maior wrote:I can't believe this is still going on....

Look kid, it was your own fault that you had that issue with that dog. You're acting naively, irrationally, and frankly as an entitled, selfish prick. You might not like Dogs, and that's fine, but the world doesn't revolve around your feelings or what you want, and it's not about to jump at your idiotic whims.

Dogs are necessary, maybe not for you, but for others, as companions, guides, guards, and they even protect YOUR safety as bomb and drug sniffers. So, have some respect.

Dogs are here to stay, deal with it.



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Postby The raptors that eascaped jurassic park » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:27 am

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Cyrisnia wrote:Another statistic:
327 people were killed over a 20 year period by dogs in the US, according to the CDC.
Over 400 were killed in a week by plane crashes. Why not ban planes?

Because planes haven't affected IM personally, and their waste doesn't show up visibly.

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Postby Patistan » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:28 am

It's natural for dogs to bark just as natural for Humans to talk. It's natural for them to poop just like it's natural for Humans
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Postby Britanno » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:31 am

What would you do with the dogs? Incinerate them?
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Postby Limborg » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:32 am

by the logic of the OP we could ban pretty much everything including humans, or better said, especially humans.
Anyhow, dogs aren't dangerous at all, they never attack anyone without a reason. If you have been attacked on so many occasions like you claim then its probably you who does something wrong.
On the second thing, dogs need to poo, so do humans, i also hate it when people let their dog poo on a walking path, but its no reason to ban dogs, more like a reason to ban people who let their dogs poo there.

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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:34 am

Limborg wrote:by the logic of the OP we could ban pretty much everything including humans, or better said, especially humans.
Anyhow, dogs aren't dangerous at all, they never attack anyone without a reason. If you have been attacked on so many occasions like you claim then its probably you who does something wrong.
On the second thing, dogs need to poo, so do humans, i also hate it when people let their dog poo on a walking path, but its no reason to ban dogs, more like a reason to ban people who let their dogs poo there.


And I believe there are laws in certain places that require owners to pick up after their pets...So, that's solved.
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Postby Limborg » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:38 am

Salus Maior wrote:
Limborg wrote:by the logic of the OP we could ban pretty much everything including humans, or better said, especially humans.
Anyhow, dogs aren't dangerous at all, they never attack anyone without a reason. If you have been attacked on so many occasions like you claim then its probably you who does something wrong.
On the second thing, dogs need to poo, so do humans, i also hate it when people let their dog poo on a walking path, but its no reason to ban dogs, more like a reason to ban people who let their dogs poo there.


And I believe there are laws in certain places that require owners to pick up after their pets...So, that's solved.


Indeed, and while these laws are not Always followed ofcourse, in the end its just a bit of poo, i mean, not really a life threatening problem.

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Postby The raptors that eascaped jurassic park » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:43 am

Salus Maior wrote:I can't believe this is still going on....

Look kid, it was your own fault that you had that issue with that dog. You're acting naively, irrationally, and frankly as an entitled, selfish prick. You might not like Dogs, and that's fine, but the world doesn't revolve around your feelings or what you want, and it's not about to jump at your idiotic whims.

Dogs are necessary, maybe not for you, but for others, as companions, guides, guards, and they even protect YOUR safety as bomb and drug sniffers. So, have some respect.

Dogs are here to stay, deal with it.

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Postby The Underground Movement Union » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:45 am

Salus Maior wrote:I can't believe this is still going on....

Look kid, it was your own fault that you had that issue with that dog. You're acting naively, irrationally, and frankly as an entitled, selfish prick. You might not like Dogs, and that's fine, but the world doesn't revolve around your feelings or what you want, and it's not about to jump at your idiotic whims.

Dogs are necessary, maybe not for you, but for others, as companions, guides, guards, and they even protect YOUR safety as bomb and drug sniffers. So, have some respect.

Dogs are here to stay, deal with it.

Agreed. Besides, we can't ban every little thing just because we don't like them, or if they do one thing you don't like. It's like saying "a cat meowed at me ban all cats!!!!!!"

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Postby Feroxi » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:46 am

Dogs are amazing creatures. They assist those who cannot see, are loving companions, and save lives. The one's that end up biting or hurting people are poorly raised, usually. Similar to humans, many things are dictated by up-bringing.

Now, cats on the other hand… ;)
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Postby Lavan Tiri » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:53 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:by the way...

I suppose most of the people who oppose this have never been bitten by a dog? It might affect your opinion on this issue I suppose.


Hey stupid: I've been bitten by more dogs than you've ever been chased by when you're high and decided that we need to ban them. Erm....I mean no dog ban.

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Postby Indira » Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:55 am

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I hope that was sarcasm.

The common rule here in NationStates General is that if you wonder or hope if someone is being sarcastic, chances are they were dead serious.


Depressing, but true

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Postby Limborg » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:01 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:by the way...

I suppose most of the people who oppose this have never been bitten by a dog? It might affect your opinion on this issue I suppose.


Sorry, i oppose any ban on dogs and have been bitten many times at the time i still trained police, guard, army and rescue dogs. Point is, if you get bitten by a dog, then you are probably the one that did something wrong. If not, then you have to blame the owner of the dog.

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Postby Antarticaria » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:01 am

Lavan Tiri wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:by the way...

I suppose most of the people who oppose this have never been bitten by a dog? It might affect your opinion on this issue I suppose.


Hey stupid: I've been bitten by more dogs than you've ever been chased by when you're high and decided that we need to ban them. Erm....I mean no dog ban.


I agree. the majority of times when a dog bites its due to how the owner raised them (most likely with aggression and violence that created desensitization effects on the animal) or the person approaching them gave them reason to.

And I have been bitten by dogs as well and will never support a ban on dogs. *Edit
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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:06 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:by the way...

I suppose most of the people who oppose this have never been bitten by a dog? It might affect your opinion on this issue I suppose.


I've been bitten by a dog before. I also recognize that it was my own fault it happened (I was aggravating a stressed-out dog).
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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:12 am

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Tiami wrote:Because all dogs are a nuisance. Yes, we should obviously ban dogs. :roll:


In addition to ignoring history, it has the brilliant lack of ecological forethought straight out of PETA's Animal Liberation schtick.

I'm pretty sure PETA, ALF, and the like aren't for banning dog ownership, what with them being domesticated animals and all. I may be wrong though.

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Postby Liberated Counties » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:12 am

Salus Maior wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:by the way...

I suppose most of the people who oppose this have never been bitten by a dog? It might affect your opinion on this issue I suppose.


I've been bitten by a dog before. I also recognize that it was my own fault it happened (I was aggravating a stressed-out dog).


My German Shepard bit me once, granted 5-year old me tried to pull his ear off, so it was pretty justified on the dogs part.
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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:13 am

Liberated Counties wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
I've been bitten by a dog before. I also recognize that it was my own fault it happened (I was aggravating a stressed-out dog).


My German Shepard bit me once, granted 5-year old me tried to pull his ear off, so it was pretty justified on the dogs part.

Ban 5-year olds.

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Postby Scomagia » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:15 am

Merizoc wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
In addition to ignoring history, it has the brilliant lack of ecological forethought straight out of PETA's Animal Liberation schtick.

I'm pretty sure PETA, ALF, and the like aren't for banning dog ownership, what with them being domesticated animals and all. I may be wrong though.

I think they are, actually.
http://www.peta.org/about-peta/why-peta/pets/

Edit: While not against pet ownership per-se, they do state that ownership of pets shouldn't have ever existed. Close enough.
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Postby Liberated Counties » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:15 am

Merizoc wrote:
Liberated Counties wrote:
My German Shepard bit me once, granted 5-year old me tried to pull his ear off, so it was pretty justified on the dogs part.

Ban 5-year olds.


NO BRUH DEMOCRACY SUX AND PPL WILL CRI so bring in legislation phasing out five year olds like the op said :bow:
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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:18 am

Scomagia wrote:
Merizoc wrote:I'm pretty sure PETA, ALF, and the like aren't for banning dog ownership, what with them being domesticated animals and all. I may be wrong though.

I think they are, actually.
http://www.peta.org/about-peta/why-peta/pets/

Edit: While not against pet ownership per-se, they do state that ownership of pets shouldn't have ever existed. Close enough.

Not really.
Contrary to myth, PETA does not want to confiscate animals who are well cared for and “set them free.” What we want is for the population of dogs and cats to be reduced through spaying and neutering and for people to adopt animals (preferably two so that they can keep each other company when their human companions aren’t home) from pounds or animal shelters—never from pet shops or breeders—thereby reducing suffering in the world.

They have very legitimate concerns about how pets are treated.

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Postby Limborg » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:23 am

Liberated Counties wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
I've been bitten by a dog before. I also recognize that it was my own fault it happened (I was aggravating a stressed-out dog).


My German Shepard bit me once, granted 5-year old me tried to pull his ear off, so it was pretty justified on the dogs part.


Did he/she bit you or just snapped at you?

Alot of people don't see the difference between a bite out of fear/pain ect. and a real bite. There is however a clear difference between the two.
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