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Postby Vassenor » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:17 pm

Shofercia wrote:If it's five years, pardoning him would be moronic. Trump, who kicked Democrat ass during elections, certainly understands what to do, and what not to do, when it comes to winning Presidential Elections.


Kicked them so hard they got more votes than him.
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Postby Sneudal » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:20 pm

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No and no (The Swedish case solely because it's expired).

Apparently it isn't.


No?

I read that it was, but it wasn't a Swedish source that mentioned it.
If it isn't expired then i'm kind of unsure on it as Sweden might as well extradite him to the U.S.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:23 pm

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Ifreann wrote:Apparently it isn't.


No?

I read that it was, but it wasn't a Swedish source that mentioned it.
If it isn't expired then i'm kind of unsure on it as Sweden might as well extradite him to the U.S.

The statute of limitations has, as I understand it, passed on all but one of the charges.
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Postby Juristonia » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:24 pm

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No?

I read that it was, but it wasn't a Swedish source that mentioned it.
If it isn't expired then i'm kind of unsure on it as Sweden might as well extradite him to the U.S.

The statute of limitations has, as I understand it, passed on all but one of the charges.

I think the molestation charge has expired, but not the rape one.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:28 pm

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Shofercia wrote:If it's five years, pardoning him would be moronic. Trump, who kicked Democrat ass during elections, certainly understands what to do, and what not to do, when it comes to winning Presidential Elections.


Kicked them so hard they got more votes than him.


I just really want to know where Shof's antipathy for Democrats comes from. Has he just been really right wing this whole time and I've never noticed?
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:33 pm

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Kicked them so hard they got more votes than him.


I just really want to know where Shof's antipathy for Democrats comes from. Has he just been really right wing this whole time and I've never noticed?


Given how hard they shill for the Russian narrative?
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Postby Sneudal » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:33 pm

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No?

I read that it was, but it wasn't a Swedish source that mentioned it.
If it isn't expired then i'm kind of unsure on it as Sweden might as well extradite him to the U.S.

The statute of limitations has, as I understand it, passed on all but one of the charges.


Juristonia wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The statute of limitations has, as I understand it, passed on all but one of the charges.

I think the molestation charge has expired, but not the rape one.



Ah i see, thanks.

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Postby Gormwood » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:37 pm

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I just really want to know where Shof's antipathy for Democrats comes from. Has he just been really right wing this whole time and I've never noticed?


Given how hard they shill for the Russian narrative?

Browsing through the forum history it seems he's been accused of being a part of the Internet Research Agency.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:42 pm

It's a shame that Assange is likely not going to face serious consequences, Wikileaks is a force of good in the world (imo, and would be better without doxxing) but Assange is rumored to have gone way off the deep end.
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Postby Caracasus » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:00 pm

Valrifell wrote:It's a shame that Assange is likely not going to face serious consequences, Wikileaks is a force of good in the world (imo, and would be better without doxxing) but Assange is rumored to have gone way off the deep end.


Well he's been stuck inside with no contact with the outside world apart from the internet for 7 years. A quick look at NS General should tell you that's not good for anyone.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:04 pm

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Valrifell wrote:It's a shame that Assange is likely not going to face serious consequences, Wikileaks is a force of good in the world (imo, and would be better without doxxing) but Assange is rumored to have gone way off the deep end.


Well he's been stuck inside with no contact with the outside world apart from the internet for 7 years. A quick look at NS General should tell you that's not good for anyone.


First of all - ouch.

Second of all - yeah, but the man has a degree of clout in several circles in the Internet. His jumping at shadows is what most likely spurred the 2016 email stuff.
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Postby Caracasus » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:08 pm

Valrifell wrote:
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Well he's been stuck inside with no contact with the outside world apart from the internet for 7 years. A quick look at NS General should tell you that's not good for anyone.


First of all - ouch.

Second of all - yeah, but the man has a degree of clout in several circles in the Internet. His jumping at shadows is what most likely spurred the 2016 email stuff.


I was only teasing! But in all seriousness I can't imagine he is in great shape, mentally. Spending nearly a decade trapped in an embassy with the only superpower in the world wanting to put you on trial and probably wanting to execute you isn't great for anyone's state of mind.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:10 pm

Caracasus wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
First of all - ouch.

Second of all - yeah, but the man has a degree of clout in several circles in the Internet. His jumping at shadows is what most likely spurred the 2016 email stuff.


I was only teasing! But in all seriousness I can't imagine he is in great shape, mentally. Spending nearly a decade trapped in an embassy with the only superpower in the world wanting to put you on trial and probably wanting to execute you isn't great for anyone's state of mind.

I'd say he's a few special characters short of a secure password.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:12 pm

Caracasus wrote:
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First of all - ouch.

Second of all - yeah, but the man has a degree of clout in several circles in the Internet. His jumping at shadows is what most likely spurred the 2016 email stuff.


I was only teasing! But in all seriousness I can't imagine he is in great shape, mentally. Spending nearly a decade trapped in an embassy with the only superpower in the world wanting to put you on trial and probably wanting to execute you isn't great for anyone's state of mind.


And it's scary to think that such a man wrecked with fears was at the helm of one of the world's forefront of political transparency. We already know he let it get to his head and he started to play king, I wonder how much that god complex got to him.
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Postby Caracasus » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:14 pm

Ifreann wrote:
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I was only teasing! But in all seriousness I can't imagine he is in great shape, mentally. Spending nearly a decade trapped in an embassy with the only superpower in the world wanting to put you on trial and probably wanting to execute you isn't great for anyone's state of mind.

I'd say he's a few special characters short of a secure password.


It's not a happy beard is it?
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:17 pm

Caracasus wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I'd say he's a few special characters short of a secure password.


It's not a happy beard is it?

It does not spark joy.
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Postby Shofercia » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:22 pm

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Just going to save this response the next time you whine about journalists being oppressed somewhere.



Are you keeping tabs on people around here?


If a poster is going to attack me, as you've done in the past, I will defend myself. Remember your post about how NSG is a Russian Propaganda Mill?

NSG is basically Shof & co. spamming Russian propaganda non-stop. I'm tired of watching the same people spamming the same crap in every single thread. And watching anyone calling them out be warned or banned. A bunch of outsiders have taken control of an entire subforum and, because of the way rules in NS forums work, you aren't even allowed to call them out.

Just like other users who have already left or have been banned, I'll refrain from posting on the forum from now on. There is no point arguing against people who push propaganda and aren't interested in real discussion. But I'll make this final post to voice my complaint, even though I don't expect the mods to do anything about it. If the mods are ok with their subforum becoming Sputnik 2.0, who am I to say otherwise?


You seemed to have refrained alright, making 172 posts since you refrained. That's one mighty refrain right there, Ocelot.


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If it's five years, pardoning him would be moronic. Trump, who kicked Democrat ass during elections, certainly understands what to do, and what not to do, when it comes to winning Presidential Elections.

Wanting to close the southern border before getting talked out of it not to mention exacerbating migration by cutting off Central American aid is definitely a trait of someone who knows what to do. And you're rather generous calling a minimal win an ass-kicking.


304-227 is a minimal win? I'd say that was an ass-kicking. As for Trump being anti-illegal immigration, dude have you not seen his base? And it's not like most of America is going to care about illegal immigration in an odd year. And when Obama annihilated McCain 365-173, that was also an ass kicking.


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Shofercia wrote:If it's five years, pardoning him would be moronic. Trump, who kicked Democrat ass during elections, certainly understands what to do, and what not to do, when it comes to winning Presidential Elections.


Kicked them so hard they got more votes than him.


Not the Electoral Votes, and those are the ones that count. You can get all the yards you want in a football game, but if all you can do in the red zone is kick field goals, you will lose.


Valrifell wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Kicked them so hard they got more votes than him.


I just really want to know where Shof's antipathy for Democrats comes from. Has he just been really right wing this whole time and I've never noticed?


How does pointing out the obvious equate with antipathy for Democrats? Trump knows how to win elections. I even pointed out the names of the three Democrats who can beat him. I'm just tired of posters making nonsensical arguments, like Trump pardoning Assange over a sentence of five years - which will cause Trump to lose votes.
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Postby US-SSR » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:36 pm

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:The UK has pledged not to extradite him to a country with the death penalty. That will cause a war of words with Trump.


He's not under indictment for any charge carrying a death penalty so that is moot. The UK has stated it arrested him on the behalf of the US. He's being held for violating bail and will soon be extradited to the US and tried there. Here's hoping he's also subpoenaed before Congress so he can tell us who in the Russian government or elsewhere he was acting for as a cutout to Roger Stone and the Trump campaign. P.S. BIll Barr is right, there was spying going on, spying by the Russians against the US.
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Postby US-SSR » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:38 pm

Shofercia wrote:Trump knows how to win elections.


He just doesn't know how to get the most votes. Hillary won the election; Trump won the office, thanks to Putin with assists from the FBI and Electoral College.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:43 pm

Shofercia wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:
Are you keeping tabs on people around here?


If a poster is going to attack me, as you've done in the past, I will defend myself. Remember your post about how NSG is a Russian Propaganda Mill?

NSG is basically Shof & co. spamming Russian propaganda non-stop. I'm tired of watching the same people spamming the same crap in every single thread. And watching anyone calling them out be warned or banned. A bunch of outsiders have taken control of an entire subforum and, because of the way rules in NS forums work, you aren't even allowed to call them out.

Just like other users who have already left or have been banned, I'll refrain from posting on the forum from now on. There is no point arguing against people who push propaganda and aren't interested in real discussion. But I'll make this final post to voice my complaint, even though I don't expect the mods to do anything about it. If the mods are ok with their subforum becoming Sputnik 2.0, who am I to say otherwise?


You seemed to have refrained alright, making 172 posts since you refrained. That's one mighty refrain right there, Ocelot.


Gormwood wrote:Wanting to close the southern border before getting talked out of it not to mention exacerbating migration by cutting off Central American aid is definitely a trait of someone who knows what to do. And you're rather generous calling a minimal win an ass-kicking.


304-227 is a minimal win? I'd say that was an ass-kicking. As for Trump being anti-illegal immigration, dude have you not seen his base? And it's not like most of America is going to care about illegal immigration in an odd year. And when Obama annihilated McCain 365-173, that was also an ass kicking.


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Kicked them so hard they got more votes than him.


Not the Electoral Votes, and those are the ones that count. You can get all the yards you want in a football game, but if all you can do in the red zone is kick field goals, you will lose.


Valrifell wrote:
I just really want to know where Shof's antipathy for Democrats comes from. Has he just been really right wing this whole time and I've never noticed?


How does pointing out the obvious equate with antipathy for Democrats? Trump knows how to win elections. I even pointed out the names of the three Democrats who can beat him. I'm just tired of posters making nonsensical arguments, like Trump pardoning Assange over a sentence of five years - which will cause Trump to lose votes.


If he knows how to win elections, why was so much voter suppression needed to get him wins?
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:44 pm

All threads lead to Trump. :(
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Postby Gormwood » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:45 pm

Ifreann wrote:All threads lead to Trump. :(

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Postby Shofercia » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:47 pm

US-SSR wrote:
Shofercia wrote:Trump knows how to win elections.


He just doesn't know how to get the most votes. Hillary won the election; Trump won the office, thanks to Putin with assists from the FBI and Electoral College.


Putin secretly sent a Russian Spy back in time, to create the Electoral College, so that Trump can win the election in 2016. Sources: Christopher Steele & Aliens.

When I say that Trump knows how to win elections, I am specifically referring to the Electoral College Victory in the Presidential Elections. Comey's role is really not the subject of this thread.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:48 pm

Shofercia wrote:
US-SSR wrote:
He just doesn't know how to get the most votes. Hillary won the election; Trump won the office, thanks to Putin with assists from the FBI and Electoral College.


Putin secretly sent a Russian Spy back in time, to create the Electoral College, so that Trump can win the election in 2016. Sources: Christopher Steele & Aliens.

When I say that Trump knows how to win elections, I am specifically referring to the Electoral College Victory in the Presidential Elections. Comey's role is really not the subject of this thread.

Praising Trump's brain isn't the subject of this thread either.
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