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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:32 am
by Calladan
Zaldakki wrote:Use birth control. If you have children eventually everyone will statistically become your descendant. You don't want that because then you wouldn't be able to be attracted to anyone anymore.


I have to disagree - I think that if you are going to live forever, after a while you would definitely start to develop an entirely new morality. Or at least a very lax version of the old one. Concepts like not being intimate with "family" members (especially given how weak and watered down the connection would be) would pretty much vanish.

Or at least that's where I see it going. And by "after a while" I mean ten, twenty decades or so, not five or ten years :)

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:32 am
by Gim
Conscentia wrote:
Gim wrote:I go with the theory of YOLO.

YOLO.

:lol:

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:40 am
by Vonehad She
Calladan wrote:
Zaldakki wrote:Use birth control. If you have children eventually everyone will statistically become your descendant. You don't want that because then you wouldn't be able to be attracted to anyone anymore.


I have to disagree - I think that if you are going to live forever, after a while you would definitely start to develop an entirely new morality. Or at least a very lax version of the old one. Concepts like not being intimate with "family" members (especially given how weak and watered down the connection would be) would pretty much vanish.

Or at least that's where I see it going. And by "after a while" I mean ten, twenty decades or so, not five or ten years :)

I would have to agree with you on that. Given time, people would adapt to their circumstances. I mean - and I'm sorry for using this - look at Rick Grimes from The Walking Dead. At the beginning of the show, Rick was moral and tried to keep everyone, and I do mean everyone, alive. Didn't matter to him if he knew you or not. Fast forward to season three and you start to see his morals changing. He went from 'keep everyone alive' to 'keep this group alive'.

And the only reason why I even mentioned The Walking Dead would be because of all the psychology used in writing out the characters. (And I'm not just talking about the main characters, like Rick's group, but also the 'villains' and the 'background people'.) Living forever is a bit like that - it wears down on someone's mental state and, well, we get changed morals because of it.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:45 am
by Vonehad She
Conscentia wrote:
Gim wrote:I go with the theory of YOLO.

YOLO.

Well - I found a new song to obsess over...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:47 am
by Gim
Vonehad She wrote:
Conscentia wrote:YOLO.

Well - I found a new song to obsess over...


Well, you only live once. Now go and enjoy the song. :p

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:48 am
by Vonehad She
Gim wrote:
Vonehad She wrote:Well - I found a new song to obsess over...


Well, you only live once. Now go and enjoy the song. :p

Already listening to it for the second time and I can't stop smiling. And you do only live once, true. :lol2:

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:48 am
by Gim
Vonehad She wrote:
Gim wrote:
Well, you only live once. Now go and enjoy the song. :p

Already listening to it for the second time and I can't stop smiling. And you do only live once, true. :lol2:


Good, good. :p

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:24 am
by Australian rePublic
Apu don't Yolo
And, as I said before, we already have the option of living forever-the after life

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:26 am
by Gim
Australian Republic wrote:Apu don't Yolo
And, as I said before, we already have the option of living forever-the after life


However, that's not living forever. There's dying involved.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:29 am
by Wansul
Democratic East-Asia wrote:YES. I have an infinite amount of time to turn myself from a lowly student into the supreme ruler of the universe.

But your freinds gonton different ages. And they forget about you.
Why I would choose no.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:32 am
by Mezonpotania
Arctica-Aleutia wrote:
Oldenfranck wrote:
No, eventually your brain would forget stuff.

That implies some disturbing things. For example, eventually you might forget your childhood, your family, who you even are.

Hmm... that sounds like a good plot for a novel or something... and novels can make you money... ha ha... bwa ha ha...

*types furiously on typewriter without blinking*

Doctor who character asheilda!
Forgot here name and everything about herself! Lived to be 100 trillion years old, then the universe got destroyed, but she lived! Plot already taken! just watch doctor who!!!!!!!
/skip

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:55 am
by Nordengrund
Nah, because I'd eventually get bored enough and become a sadist or serial killer so I have something to do.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:55 am
by Gim
Nordengrund wrote:Nah, because I'd eventually get bored enough and become a sadist or serial killer so I have something to do.


You won't become a serial killer, if people can live forever.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:16 am
by Australian rePublic
Gim wrote:
Australian Republic wrote:Apu don't Yolo
And, as I said before, we already have the option of living forever-the after life


However, that's not living forever. There's dying involved.

Initially, yes, but after that, you never die again, because, you're already dead, you just live in Heaven, uninterupted, forever, never dying again

Eternal cycles of reincarnation, on the other hand may or may not be living forever (I suppose it depends on jow you look at it)

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:17 am
by Gim
Australian Republic wrote:
Gim wrote:
However, that's not living forever. There's dying involved.

Initially, yes, but after that, you never die again, because, you're already dead, you just live in Heaven, uninterupted, forever, never dying again

Eternal cycles of reincarnation, on the other hand may or may not be living forever (I suppose it depends on jow you look at it)


Hmm, okay. i guess, technically, it's living forever. I'm fine with that.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:56 am
by Nordengrund
Gim wrote:
Nordengrund wrote:Nah, because I'd eventually get bored enough and become a sadist or serial killer so I have something to do.


You won't become a serial killer, if people can live forever.


Well, I was implying if only I lived forever

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:57 am
by Gim
Nordengrund wrote:
Gim wrote:
You won't become a serial killer, if people can live forever.


Well, I was implying if only I lived forever


That won't happen. I want to live forever, too.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:23 am
by Khalisako
No.

I'm already working on shortening my life span through various means. The idea of living forever would be like burning in a hell for eternity.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:23 am
by Gim
Khalisako wrote:No.

I'm already working on shortening my life span through various means. The idea of living forever would be like burning in a hell for eternity.


Are you not happy in life right now? :(

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:37 am
by Khalisako
Gim wrote:
Khalisako wrote:No.

I'm already working on shortening my life span through various means. The idea of living forever would be like burning in a hell for eternity.


Are you not happy in life right now? :(

Uhhh, no.

An honest answer never hurts tho.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:39 am
by Victorious Decepticons
USS Monitor wrote:
Victorious Decepticons wrote:OP's version is the one version I would not want: The kind that combines immortality with partial invincibility - giving me the ability to get almost deathly sick from an excruciating disease, get stuck under earthquake rubble for 1500 years or more, lose all of my mental data, end up absorbed by the sun, etc. and STILL not die.

In exchange for such eventualities, I only MAY get to see my enemies age and die around me. OP, alas, has given all humans the chance to be immortal, too.

I'll pass. OP's offer is the worst version of immortality.

My goal is immortality without any sickness or physical pain, and that includes immortality for all of my mental data - and I want an "exit clause" for crazy-making situations like being buried under the ashes of Mt. Vesuvius for millennia or for if I don't get off of Earth before the sun expands so close that staying on the planet would be hellacious. Since this offer doesn't have any of that, no thanks.


Wouldn't getting absorbed by the sun or trapped where you can't breathe cause you to pass out even if you're not technically dead? IRL, if you can't breathe, you pass out before you die.


Hmmm...you do have a point there. But he also mentioned things like diseases that would normally be terminal, but now won't be. Some of those involve excruciating pain or total disability, but not the loss of awareness. And eventually you'd get too used to painkillers for those to work anymore, even if you assume that someone's around to administer them to you.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:40 am
by Gim
Khalisako wrote:
Gim wrote:
Are you not happy in life right now? :(

Uhhh, no.

An honest answer never hurts tho.


I'm sure, with immortality, you will have many opportunities to try and live a happy life. You have all the time to start anew. :)

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:45 am
by Ifreann
gib immortality pls

Maybe I'd later come to regret it. But I would literally have all the time in the world to come to terms with that.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:46 am
by The State of Communism
Yeah, uh, no.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:47 am
by Gim
Ifreann wrote:gib immortality pls

Maybe I'd later come to regret it. But I would literally have all the time in the world to come to terms with that.


I'd find something else about which I'd be happy, since life is interminable.