Do U Believe in Aliens?

[Norstal]

You can feel numbers. Math is a universal language that requires you to shape and mold objects. As for the color, you're right, they probably don't see colors. Maybe they do it in black and white. We wouldn't know.

A blind person is able to see the trajectory of an object entering the atmosphere, regardless if they are blind or not. They are able to explain extraterrestrial phenomenons without resorting to "aliens did it." They're blind, not stupid.

I never made the claim that nutters who see UFOs and say "aliens" are true.

I merely said that the existence of extraterrestrial life, in the form of single celled organisms, is an almost absolute certainty.

So you're drawing conclusions from nothing. Nice. Habitable planet != alien civilization must exist.

[Jordsindia]

of course there are aliens, its mathamatics use Drakes equation.
The Drake equation states that:



http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious/Topics/SETI/drake_equation.html

So since only a fraction of NSGers will actually click on the link I'll have to explain it in brief
there are 100 Billion Stars in the Milky Way
thats 100,000,000,000
now according to available data, there are 20% to 50% of Stars with planets around them, for now we'll use 20%
thats 20,000,000,000 or 20 Billion
now then how many of those planets are capable of sustaining life the current evidance points to between 1 to 5
thats around 20,000,000,000 or 20 Billion using the lowest evidence
now we come to how many lifeforms will evolve, the answer is either 100% or 0% because anything that can evolve will, and the only thing that can't evolve is non-lifeforms
so again 20 Billion
then how many of those life forms that evolve will be inteligent, this can range from 100% to 0% if life is intelligent than it has a survival edge, for now I am going to go with .5%, I am a skeptic myslef
so thats 1 Billion or 1,000,000,000
then which intelligent life has the means or desire to communicate this ranges from 10% to 20%, I am going to use 10%
so thats 100,000,000 or 100 million
then the last part is a little more complicated, how long does the species have to develope before its planet dies, so in this equation I am giving the civilization 1 million years to develope
after sorting through all these parameters based on accurate information, this equation shows that 1000 intelligent communicating species exist in this galaxy alone, you can run all sorts of scenarios, I also ran an alternative equation for you optimists out there and I will not exlain it step by step becasue that would take too long, but assuming everything is optimistic using Drakes equation, there could be 400 million intelligent communicating species in our galaxy alone, the point is, there are millions if not billions of galaxies all with Billions of stars, if you look at it mathematically it makes sense, if you are still a skeptic and think we are even the only species that is in our galaxy, then that would mean that there could still be billions of intelligent species out there, to answer the original question

Yes, I most certainly do believe there is life,
thousands of species cannot be good or bad, so the answer would be sometimes
I don't think they are visiting Earth, though they may have in the past, there are some unexplainable phenomenas that has happened in the history of humanity, it is most certainly possible
there are most definately more than one species, that is unless one species that was super advanced invented hyper faster than light technology and conquered all the other alien races in the galaxy and are preparing an invasion fo Earth as we type, but that is highly unlikely, or is it?

Your research is interesting

[Great Nepal]

Yes, aliens do exist. Universe is vast, and our ball of rock is not even equivalent to a grain of sand in the universe. There will be a lot more life out there. However, they certainly are not visiting earth - if they haven't got FTL/ wormhole generator: they are as stuck with their ball of rock as we are; if they have got FTL/wormhole generator: they would be too goddamn advanced to care about us - ie. for same reason why you dont fly from Saudi to California just to poke a stick in colony of ants.

[Galla-]

I never made the claim that nutters who see UFOs and say "aliens" are true.

I merely said that the existence of extraterrestrial life, in the form of single celled organisms, is an almost absolute certainty.

So you're drawing conclusions from nothing. Nice. Habitable planet != alien civilization must exist.

Cool cool.

You're putting words in my mouth.

Or are you just incapable of reading?

A microbe isn't going to have a civilisation. It is still life.

[Legionica]

Yes, aliens do exist. Universe is vast, and our ball of rock is not even equivalent to a grain of sand in the universe. There will be a lot more life out there. However, they certainly are not visiting earth - if they haven't got FTL/ wormhole generator: they are as stuck with their ball of rock as we are; if they have got FTL/wormhole generator: they would be too goddamn advanced to care about us - ie. for same reason why you dont fly from Saudi to California just to poke a stick in colony of ants.

Great analogy, pretty much sums it up. Replace ants with nuclear, explosive, red, bomber ants.

[The Grand World Order]

Do I believe in aliens? Of course.

Do I think they've ever even come close to the Solar System? Not at all.

[Jenrak]

So, i was watching this Phil Sneider guy, maybe you've heard of him, and he talks about how he once worked for the government with top secret programs about aliens.

Goddamn government secret programs.

So i decided to see if you guys believe in aliens.

Yer goddamn right I do.

So, do you?

Goddamn it I goddamn do.

If so, do you think they are friendly?

Yer goddamn right I don't.

If so, do you think they are visiting earth?

Goddamn probes all up in this bitch.

Are they hostile?

Goddamn tripods everywhere, and I'm not talk about the crappy site host from 1999.

Are their more than one species?

Better be or we're goddamn fucked.

Just tell us, do you BELIEVE!

I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favourite thread on the Citadel.

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Sorry, I'm tired as shit.

[Galla-]

So, i was watching this Phil Sneider guy, maybe you've heard of him, and he talks about how he once worked for the government with top secret programs about aliens.

Goddamn government secret programs.

So i decided to see if you guys believe in aliens.

Yer goddamn right I do.

So, do you?

Goddamn it I goddamn do.

If so, do you think they are friendly?

Yer goddamn right I don't.

If so, do you think they are visiting earth?

Goddamn probes all up in this bitch.

Are they hostile?

Goddamn tripods everywhere, and I'm not talk about the crappy site host from 1999.

Are their more than one species?

Better be or we're goddamn fucked.

Just tell us, do you BELIEVE!

I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favourite thread on the Citadel.

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Sorry, I'm tired as shit.

i love you

[Legionica]

The Commander Shepard thing was something I planned to sneak in here, but you beat me to it. Contrary to prior beleifs, I can have a favorite mod. And that is you.

[Jagalonia]

Meh, there has to be some other lifeform out there, somewhere. But who's to say that they're more advanced than us? By that logic, even if they could, why would they even consider coming to earth? It's a rock with little real value...

[Aethrys]

It's only a matter of time until we find the charon relay and begin developing extra solar colonies. Then a passing Turian patrol will find the Shan Xi colony, and well... you know the rest.

[Euronion]

Meh, there has to be some other lifeform out there, somewhere. But who's to say that they're more advanced than us? By that logic, even if they could, why would they even consider coming to earth? It's a rock with little real value...

perhaps they are curious as to other species and we are the closest

[Euronion]

of course there are aliens, its mathamatics use Drakes equation.
The Drake equation states that:



http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious/Topics/SETI/drake_equation.html

So since only a fraction of NSGers will actually click on the link I'll have to explain it in brief
there are 100 Billion Stars in the Milky Way
thats 100,000,000,000
now according to available data, there are 20% to 50% of Stars with planets around them, for now we'll use 20%
thats 20,000,000,000 or 20 Billion
now then how many of those planets are capable of sustaining life the current evidance points to between 1 to 5
thats around 20,000,000,000 or 20 Billion using the lowest evidence
now we come to how many lifeforms will evolve, the answer is either 100% or 0% because anything that can evolve will, and the only thing that can't evolve is non-lifeforms
so again 20 Billion
then how many of those life forms that evolve will be inteligent, this can range from 100% to 0% if life is intelligent than it has a survival edge, for now I am going to go with .5%, I am a skeptic myslef
so thats 1 Billion or 1,000,000,000
then which intelligent life has the means or desire to communicate this ranges from 10% to 20%, I am going to use 10%
so thats 100,000,000 or 100 million
then the last part is a little more complicated, how long does the species have to develope before its planet dies, so in this equation I am giving the civilization 1 million years to develope
after sorting through all these parameters based on accurate information, this equation shows that 1000 intelligent communicating species exist in this galaxy alone, you can run all sorts of scenarios, I also ran an alternative equation for you optimists out there and I will not exlain it step by step becasue that would take too long, but assuming everything is optimistic using Drakes equation, there could be 400 million intelligent communicating species in our galaxy alone, the point is, there are millions if not billions of galaxies all with Billions of stars, if you look at it mathematically it makes sense, if you are still a skeptic and think we are even the only species that is in our galaxy, then that would mean that there could still be billions of intelligent species out there, to answer the original question

Yes, I most certainly do believe there is life,
thousands of species cannot be good or bad, so the answer would be sometimes
I don't think they are visiting Earth, though they may have in the past, there are some unexplainable phenomenas that has happened in the history of humanity, it is most certainly possible
there are most definately more than one species, that is unless one species that was super advanced invented hyper faster than light technology and conquered all the other alien races in the galaxy and are preparing an invasion fo Earth as we type, but that is highly unlikely, or is it?

Your research is interesting

thanks, took a while to type though

[Intangelon]

No. Why? Because they don't exist. Next?

Prove that extraterrestrial life doesn't exist.

I'm including single-celled organisms.

The burden of proof is on the psychotics who think it exists. Sorry, but that's your problem. I'm including single-celled organisms. Any proof you like, so long as it's real.

[Intangelon]

NASA found bacterial life on MArs, didn't they?

They found what they THINK are bacterial fossils. That's not life, that's paleontology, and utterly irrelevant since bacteria probably can't pilot starships.

[Galla-]

Prove that extraterrestrial life doesn't exist.

I'm including single-celled organisms.

The burden of proof is on the psychotics who think it exists. Sorry, but that's your problem. I'm including single-celled organisms. Any proof you like, so long as it's real.

Nice flamebait.

Do you always try to "debate" with such crass and vulgar insults, or is that just some subconscious thing that NSG'ers do?

[Intangelon]

Yes, aliens do exist. Universe is vast, and our ball of rock is not even equivalent to a grain of sand in the universe. There will be a lot more life out there. However, they certainly are not visiting earth - if they haven't got FTL/ wormhole generator: they are as stuck with their ball of rock as we are; if they have got FTL/wormhole generator: they would be too goddamn advanced to care about us - ie. for same reason why you dont fly from Saudi to California just to poke a stick in colony of ants.

That doesn't mean they exist. That means it's kinda probable that they might exist. Difference.

Saying "they must be there, look at the odds" does not equal "they're here".

[Aethrys]

NASA found bacterial life on MArs, didn't they?

They found what they THINK are bacterial fossils. That's not life, that's paleontology, and utterly irrelevant since bacteria probably can't pilot starships.

...What?

Finding fossilized bacteria on Mars is evidence that alien life existed at one point, and is an indicator that it likely does elsewhere.

And, despite lacking starship piloting abilities, bacteria is still life.

[Galla-]

They found what they THINK are bacterial fossils. That's not life, that's paleontology, and utterly irrelevant since bacteria probably can't pilot starships.

...What?

Finding fossilized bacteria on Mars is evidence that alien life existed at one point, and is an indicator that it likely does elsewhere.

Actually, what they think they found are microfissures in the rock and mineral composition, iirc.

[Intangelon]

The burden of proof is on the psychotics who think it exists. Sorry, but that's your problem. I'm including single-celled organisms. Any proof you like, so long as it's real.

Nice flamebait.

Do you always try to "debate" with such crass and vulgar insults, or is that just some subconscious thing that NSG'ers do?

It is a sign of mental instability to invest fantasy with pseudoscience in order to give it some kind of legitimate-sounding realism. They don't exist, there's no proof: UFO buffs are not that much different than God buffs.

[Norstal]

So you're drawing conclusions from nothing. Nice. Habitable planet != alien civilization must exist.

Cool cool.

You're putting words in my mouth.

Or are you just incapable of reading?

A microbe isn't going to have a civilisation. It is still life.

Same thing. You can't conclude that either. You can hypothesize, but not conclude.

[Hathradic States]

So, do you?
If so, do you think they are friendly?
If so, do you think they are visiting earth?
Are they hostile?
Are their more than one species?

Yes.
No.
No.
Yes.
Yes.

[Scientific socks]

The current known ratio between stars and plannets that contain life is 1:1
There are meant to be billions or stars
So is there a chance that aliens exist? I would have to say yes.

Is there a chance that crackpots, mentally unstable, gulliable or attention seeking individuals have made up stories about seeing aliens? Yes, thats even more likely!

[Zirconim]

I don't really care, at this point, but I honestly don't think we can be alone in the Universe. But I don't think we have, or maybe will, make contact with them.

[Zirconim]

So, do you?
If so, do you think they are friendly?
If so, do you think they are visiting earth?
Are they hostile?
Are their more than one species?

Yes.
No.
No.
Yes.
Yes.

So, basically this.