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Which candidate would you vote for in the 2026 Holborn and St Pancras By-election? (Actual)

Sagal Abdi-Wali (Labour)
18
17%
Peter Newman (Reform UK)
2
2%
Zack Polanski (Green Party of England and Wales)
15
14%
Ewan Cameron (Conservatives)
3
3%
Patrick Stillman (Liberal Democrats)
7
6%
George Galloway (Workers Party)
4
4%
Tyler Johnson (Restore)
41
38%
Barmy Brunch (Monster Raving Loony Party)
4
4%
T.M Opera O (O Sole Suo! Overlord of the Century's end, Senior Autumn Triple Crown Winner. Stand proud, for you have the privilege of falling before her and becoming yet another page in the tale of her Supremacy!)
13
12%
Other (Communist league, Rejoin EU, UKIP etc)
2
2%
 
Total votes : 109

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The Notorious Mad Jack
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Postby The Notorious Mad Jack » Thu Oct 01, 2026 9:28 am

Greater Britannian Realm wrote:It was all performative crap.
No it isn't.
Our emmisions just end up exported.
No they don't.
Because you need to mine all the rare earth metals for those fancy new solar panels from somewhere.
Still less invasive and damaging for the environment than mining for coal and gas and oil, plus when kesterite solar cells become commercially viable they will be made with much smaller amounts of rare earth metals - or even none at all - with most of the metals used commonly available in the UK.
Net zero is a lie.

No it isn't, you just don't understand it.
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Celritannia
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Postby Celritannia » Thu Oct 01, 2026 9:29 am

The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:
Greater Britannian Realm wrote:It was all performative crap.
No it isn't.
Our emmisions just end up exported.
No they don't.
Because you need to mine all the rare earth metals for those fancy new solar panels from somewhere.
Still less invasive and damaging for the environment than mining for coal and gas and oil, plus when kesterite solar cells become commercially viable they will be made with much smaller amounts of rare earth metals - or even none at all - with most of the metals used commonly available in the UK.
Net zero is a lie.

No it isn't, you just don't understand it.

A sweet lie is easier to swallow than the bitter truth.

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Vassenor
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Vassenor » Thu Oct 01, 2026 9:29 am

Greater Britannian Realm wrote:
NewAlbion wrote:"Hey, stop using plastic straws! You are destroying the planet!"

Meanwhile India:

It was all performative crap.
Our emmisions just end up exported.
Because you need to mine all the rare earth metals for those fancy new solar panels from somewhere.
Net zero is a lie.


And all because you were asked to make changes to your life to benefit others.
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Greater Britannian Realm
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Postby Greater Britannian Realm » Thu Oct 01, 2026 9:42 am

Vassenor wrote:
Greater Britannian Realm wrote:It was all performative crap.
Our emmisions just end up exported.
Because you need to mine all the rare earth metals for those fancy new solar panels from somewhere.
Net zero is a lie.


And all because you were asked to make changes to your life to benefit others.

If that change is allowing corporations an excuse to make things horrible like the paper straws that dissolve in five seconds sure.
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Dumb Ideologies
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Mother Knows Best State

Postby Dumb Ideologies » Thu Oct 01, 2026 9:45 am

refuse to tidy your room or do your homework because it's performative and helps CHINA win
Furthermore, I consider that feminism must be destroyed.

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Velstrania
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Anarchy

Postby Velstrania » Thu Oct 01, 2026 9:45 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:"Why are you complaining about my child-mangling machine? Do you know how many children are mangled every day in China? The one child mangled a day by my machine is basically a rounding error!"

I've been looking for one of those since mine broke, I've not been able to mangle any children for months now. Where did you get yours from?

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Old Tyrannia
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Thu Oct 01, 2026 9:47 am

Greater Britannian Realm wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And all because you were asked to make changes to your life to benefit others.

If that change is allowing corporations an excuse to make things horrible like the paper straws that dissolve in five seconds sure.

If paper straws are such an inconvenience to you, buy a reusable metal or plastic straw and carry it around with you. It's far from the end of the world (unlike climate change, which might well be- or at least the end of human civilisation as we know it).
"Classicist in literature, royalist in politics, and Anglo-Catholic in religion" (T.S. Eliot).
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Let all the ends thou aim'st at be thy country's,
Thy God's and truth's."
- 'Henry VIII' (1613) act 3, sc. 2, l. 441, William Shakespeare
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Cole Whyte-Gurney
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Postby Cole Whyte-Gurney » Thu Oct 01, 2026 9:50 am

UK-Iranian dual national arrested over RAF Fairford incident, police say

A UK-Iranian dual national has been arrested on suspicion of preparation of terrorist acts in connection with the incident at RAF Fairford, Counter Terrorism Policing have said.

The 27-year-old man was arrested in the borough of Westminster, London.

A second man, a 26-year-old UK national, has also been questioned under caution, and two properties in the area have been searched.


Breaking story

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Greater Britannian Realm
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Postby Greater Britannian Realm » Thu Oct 01, 2026 9:53 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Greater Britannian Realm wrote:If that change is allowing corporations an excuse to make things horrible like the paper straws that dissolve in five seconds sure.

If paper straws are such an inconvenience to you, buy a reusable metal or plastic straw and carry it around with you. It's far from the end of the world (unlike climate change, which might well be- or at least the end of human civilisation as we know it).

Its a joke.
I know i can just use my own straws.
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Kriegsreich of Iron
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Postby Kriegsreich of Iron » Thu Oct 01, 2026 9:53 am

Greater Britannian Realm wrote:
Kriegsreich of Iron wrote:What world are you living in?

Modern britain.
The main pollution issue we have is light pollution

An absurdly incorrect statement, as has been point out to you multiple times.
You just lost the Game. :)

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Ifreann
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 01, 2026 10:08 am

Cole Whyte-Gurney wrote:UK-Iranian dual national arrested over RAF Fairford incident, police say

A UK-Iranian dual national has been arrested on suspicion of preparation of terrorist acts in connection with the incident at RAF Fairford, Counter Terrorism Policing have said.

The 27-year-old man was arrested in the borough of Westminster, London.

A second man, a 26-year-old UK national, has also been questioned under caution, and two properties in the area have been searched.


Breaking story

No doubt these arrests are thanks to President Trump.
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Ulania
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Postby Ulania » Thu Oct 01, 2026 10:13 am


I was really hoping for this to have nothing more than some knuckle-draggers stealing fuel.

It’s kind of unbelievable and alarming that three vans worth of terrorists were able to get this close to a military base.
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Greater Britannian Realm
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Postby Greater Britannian Realm » Thu Oct 01, 2026 10:21 am

Ulania wrote:

I was really hoping for this to have nothing more than some knuckle-draggers stealing fuel.

It’s kind of unbelievable and alarming that three vans worth of terrorists were able to get this close to a military base.

Welcome to modern britain.
If we cant protect our own beaches, its quite obvious we would not be able to protect our interior.
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Forsher
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Postby Forsher » Thu Oct 01, 2026 10:32 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Greater Britannian Realm wrote:If that change is allowing corporations an excuse to make things horrible like the paper straws that dissolve in five seconds sure.

If paper straws are such an inconvenience to you, buy a reusable metal or plastic straw and carry it around with you. It's far from the end of the world (unlike climate change, which might well be- or at least the end of human civilisation as we know it).


Do British paper straws still, ahem, stuck?

When we were in London in 2018 they were awful. It was such a relief to come home and escape the bastard things.

We, of course, now have paper straws here, too. They're not even worth raising an eyebrow at. This presents three major explanations:

  • paper straws have improved
  • I've hardened the fuck up
  • British paper straws suck
That it Could be What it Is, Is What it Is

Stop making shit up, though. Links, or it's a God-damn lie and you know it.

The normie life is heteronormie

We won't know until 2053 when it'll be really obvious what he should've done. [...] We have no option but to guess.

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Ifreann
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 01, 2026 10:34 am

Ulania wrote:

I was really hoping for this to have nothing more than some knuckle-draggers stealing fuel.

It’s kind of unbelievable and alarming that three vans worth of terrorists

Five people.
were able to get this close to a military base.

This isn't Area 51, anyone is allowed to be nearby.


Greater Britannian Realm wrote:
Ulania wrote:I was really hoping for this to have nothing more than some knuckle-draggers stealing fuel.

It’s kind of unbelievable and alarming that three vans worth of terrorists were able to get this close to a military base.

Welcome to modern britain.
If we cant protect our own beaches, its quite obvious we would not be able to protect our interior.

Racist drivel.
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He descends bringing our salvation
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Kriegsreich of Iron
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Postby Kriegsreich of Iron » Thu Oct 01, 2026 10:40 am

Ifreann wrote:
Ulania wrote:I was really hoping for this to have nothing more than some knuckle-draggers stealing fuel.

It’s kind of unbelievable and alarming that three vans worth of terrorists

Five people.
were able to get this close to a military base.

This isn't Area 51, anyone is allowed to be nearby.


Greater Britannian Realm wrote:Welcome to modern britain.
If we cant protect our own beaches, its quite obvious we would not be able to protect our interior.

Racist drivel.

Racist drivel is when you don't want hordes of fighting age men who don't speak the language, who don't respect the culture, and who don't understand consent to flood into the country, got it
You just lost the Game. :)

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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 01, 2026 10:48 am

Kriegsreich of Iron wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Five people.

This isn't Area 51, anyone is allowed to be nearby.



Racist drivel.

Racist drivel is when you don't want hordes of fighting age men who don't speak the language, who don't respect the culture, and who don't understand consent to flood into the country, got it

We all know you're also a racist, yes. You don't need to try and convince anyone.
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He descends bringing our salvation
With heart of nuclear thunder
Iron will made of steel

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Ulania
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Postby Ulania » Thu Oct 01, 2026 10:54 am

Ifreann wrote:
Ulania wrote:I was really hoping for this to have nothing more than some knuckle-draggers stealing fuel.

It’s kind of unbelievable and alarming that three vans worth of terrorists

Five people.
were able to get this close to a military base.

This isn't Area 51, anyone is allowed to be nearby.

Three vans full of accelerant with their occupants suspected of preparing a terrorist attack.

The saving grace would be that the police potentially already knew of their presence, hence they didn’t answer the call from the concerned resident.

I get that you’re deciding to downplay it for whatever reason, but it’s still alarming, just the same as it was when another base was broken into so people could throw paint over the aircraft inside.

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Platypus Bureaucracy
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Postby Platypus Bureaucracy » Thu Oct 01, 2026 10:55 am

Greater Britannian Realm wrote:

Never said air pollution is not an issue.
Just that It wont get worse.

You said the main issue was light pollution. You would rank that over 500 deaths a week, would you?

Dumb Ideologies wrote:refuse to tidy your room or do your homework because it's performative and helps CHINA win

Much of the right is at "but Katie's mum doesn't make her eat vegetables and lets her have McDonald's every night!" levels of puerility. Evidently no one ever asked GBR if he'd jump off a bridge just because all his friends did.
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NewAlbion
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Postby NewAlbion » Thu Oct 01, 2026 11:06 am

Ifreann wrote:
Kriegsreich of Iron wrote:Racist drivel is when you don't want hordes of fighting age men who don't speak the language, who don't respect the culture, and who don't understand consent to flood into the country, got it

We all know you're also a racist, yes. You don't need to try and convince anyone.

You certainly are, since what you stand for results in ethnic decline.
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Vassenor
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Oct 01, 2026 11:10 am

Kriegsreich of Iron wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Five people.

This isn't Area 51, anyone is allowed to be nearby.



Racist drivel.

Racist drivel is when you don't want hordes of fighting age men who don't speak the language, who don't respect the culture, and who don't understand consent to flood into the country, got it


But that's enough about Patriot Front.
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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 01, 2026 11:25 am

Ulania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Five people.

This isn't Area 51, anyone is allowed to be nearby.

Three vans full of accelerant with their occupants suspected of preparing a terrorist attack.

Don't believe we've gotten any official word on the volume of petrol involved.

The saving grace would be that the police potentially already knew of their presence, hence they didn’t answer the call from the concerned resident.

It's been reported that one of those arrested was the first to call 999.

I get that you’re deciding to downplay it for whatever reason,

I'm trying to balance your attempts to up-play this. You're talking about vans full of terrorists and accelerant as if some massive catastrophe was barely thwarted. There's no reason to suppose that except to stoke fear.
but it’s still alarming, just the same as it was when another base was broken into so people could throw paint over the aircraft inside.

RAF Fairford wasn't broken into. They were up the road from it. On a public road that anyone is allowed to be on.
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He descends bringing our salvation
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Ulania
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Postby Ulania » Thu Oct 01, 2026 11:32 am

Ifreann wrote:I'm trying to balance your attempts to up-play this. You're talking about vans full of terrorists and accelerant as if some massive catastrophe was barely thwarted. There's no reason to suppose that except to stoke fear.

It’s not “stoking fear” to want better security for military bases because of things like this.

RAF Fairford wasn't broken into. They were up the road from it. On a public road that anyone is allowed to be on.

I was referring to when Brize Norton was broken into by two idiots on electric scooters to spray paint all over a plane inside.
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Kriegsreich of Iron
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Postby Kriegsreich of Iron » Thu Oct 01, 2026 11:33 am

Ifreann wrote:
Kriegsreich of Iron wrote:Racist drivel is when you don't want hordes of fighting age men who don't speak the language, who don't respect the culture, and who don't understand consent to flood into the country, got it

We all know you're also a racist, yes. You don't need to try and convince anyone.

What about that statement was racist?
You just lost the Game. :)

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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 01, 2026 11:37 am

Ulania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I'm trying to balance your attempts to up-play this. You're talking about vans full of terrorists and accelerant as if some massive catastrophe was barely thwarted. There's no reason to suppose that except to stoke fear.

It’s not “stoking fear” to want better security for military bases because of things like this.

It is the way you're doing it. It's also just a bad idea.

RAF Fairford wasn't broken into. They were up the road from it. On a public road that anyone is allowed to be on.

I was referring to when Brize Norton was broken into by two idiots on electric scooters to spray paint all over a plane inside.

I know what you're referring to. I'm saying that this incident was not the same, in that the five people arrested were never on the base.
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He descends bringing our salvation
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Iron will made of steel

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