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Greater American Union
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Postby Greater American Union » Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:25 pm

Duartistan wrote:
Tartonica wrote:I'm skeptical at the possibility of sleeping before 4AM.

I can totally relate to that!

As can I.

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Postby Wilgrove » Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:36 pm

So is this a society about septic tanks?

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Postby Greater American Union » Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:37 pm

Wilgrove wrote:So is this a society about septic tanks?

That's what I thought. But, I was wrong apparently.
Greater American Union wrote:Did anyone else see the thread title and think, NSG Septic Society?

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Postby Xsyne » Sun Jan 02, 2011 8:51 pm

I'm skeptical about my own existence.
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Free Soviets wrote:according to both the law library of congress and wikipedia, both automatics and semi-autos that can be easily converted are outright banned in norway.


Source?

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:27 pm

The Southron Nation wrote:
Katganistan wrote:.........
In Manhattan, New York? I'm pretty skeptical of that. New Yorkers are considered rude by most other people because by and large, we don't talk to anyone and wish them a good day the way they do in many other parts of the country. And asking a mixed race person if they'd been to a lynching?

I'm also skeptical that you've never heard of Mexicans (upper case M, it's a proper name) being treated as if they're all potentially illegal aliens, or the depiction that most Italians (again, proper name, upper case I) are in the Mafia.



im a southerner. once anyone from elsewhere in the country finds that out, they immediately assume that life in the south is exactly like .

please note that i did not say that racism did not exist. im saying that it isn't the CNN society devastating-like phenomena that we all think of when we hear the term. we only think of it like that b/c we've all been indoctrinated to view it in such a manner. it's my fault for not being clear enough. racism exists. im skeptical of its effect on individuals. im skeptical of it systemic effects. i don't believe that anyone's life is ruined b/c of it.


I'm Southern too. One of my friends in college once told me and some other people how he was going to have to leave because his car was being vandalized, at least once with a threat IIRC, because he married a white woman.
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I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:28 pm

Scolopendra wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:I like having my blood at a pH between 7.35 to 7.45

I prefer my blood pH to be between either 7.35 to 7.39 or 7.43 to 7.45. Just in case.


Pffh, that happened once, and it eats plastic now anyway...
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Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Gagatron » Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:40 pm

I'm skeptical of the idea that the Messiah hasn't come yet. I'm also skeptical that Mohammed wrote the Quran. I am further skeptical about the veracity of carbon dating.
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Zilam wrote:It always strikes me funny when people always complain "If God is good, why does he allow evil to exist"....Yet when God destroys every evil person in a flood, its a bad thing.

All sin is deserving of death.

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Postby Science-Oriented Scots » Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:41 pm

Gagatron wrote:I am further skeptical about the veracity of carbon dating.


You've got to be freaking kidding me. Are you also skeptical about whether or not electrons exist or all living things are made up of cells?
Let's be honest. Bigtopians do say the darndest things.

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Postby Gagatron » Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:44 pm

Science-Oriented Scots wrote:
Gagatron wrote:I am further skeptical about the veracity of carbon dating.


You've got to be freaking kidding me. Are you also skeptical about whether or not electrons exist or all living things are made up of cells?


It is logically impossible for carbon to decay at a set rate if it is in contact with the weather of the Earth and other living things.
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Zilam wrote:It always strikes me funny when people always complain "If God is good, why does he allow evil to exist"....Yet when God destroys every evil person in a flood, its a bad thing.

All sin is deserving of death.

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Postby Science-Oriented Scots » Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:46 pm

Gagatron wrote:
Science-Oriented Scots wrote:
You've got to be freaking kidding me. Are you also skeptical about whether or not electrons exist or all living things are made up of cells?


It is logically impossible for carbon to decay at a set rate if it is in contact with the weather of the Earth and other living things.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_dating

Please actually read this and be acquainted with the matter on which you are speaking.

EDIT: Read this for other dating methods: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiometric_dating
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Postby Xsyne » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:06 pm

Gagatron wrote:
Science-Oriented Scots wrote:
You've got to be freaking kidding me. Are you also skeptical about whether or not electrons exist or all living things are made up of cells?


It is logically impossible for carbon to decay at a set rate if it is in contact with the weather of the Earth and other living things.

I don't think you understand logic.
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Source?

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Postby New Manvir » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:07 pm

I am skeptical that you people actually exist you and aren't all part of a secret conspiracy to keep me confined in some sort of fantasy world a la the Truman Show.
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Postby Science-Oriented Scots » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:09 pm

New Manvir wrote:I am skeptical that you people actually exist you and aren't all part of a secret conspiracy to keep me confined in some sort of fantasy world a la the Truman Show.


Shh of course not. Now go back to bed. You have work in the morning.

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:19 pm

Gagatron wrote:
Science-Oriented Scots wrote:
You've got to be freaking kidding me. Are you also skeptical about whether or not electrons exist or all living things are made up of cells?


It is logically impossible for carbon to decay at a set rate if it is in contact with the weather of the Earth and other living things.


Chemical processes have no effect on sub-atomic ones.
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Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Xenohumanity wrote:
Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby UCUMAY » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:22 pm

Concordeia wrote:I am VERY skeptical of this thread... :eyebrow:

No kidding...
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Postby Gagatron » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:23 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Gagatron wrote:
It is logically impossible for carbon to decay at a set rate if it is in contact with the weather of the Earth and other living things.


Chemical processes have no effect on sub-atomic ones.


Carbon is not subatomic, and yes they do. Ever heard of the effects of fire?
God, I want to dream again,
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Zilam wrote:It always strikes me funny when people always complain "If God is good, why does he allow evil to exist"....Yet when God destroys every evil person in a flood, its a bad thing.

All sin is deserving of death.

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Postby UCUMAY » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:24 pm

Gagatron wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:
Chemical processes have no effect on sub-atomic ones.


Carbon is not subatomic, and yes they do. Ever heard of the effects of fire?


Fire simply oxidizes.
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I may be young, and that's okay. Since age does not always bring wisdom. I may be stubborn to the point of stupidity; but at least I fight for my beliefs. I may be fooled by a lie; but I can then say I trusted. My heart may get broken however, then I can say I truly loved. With all this said I have lived. :D

I'm politically syncretic so stop asking. :)
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:25 pm

God.
Hi! I'm Khan, your local misanthropic Indian.
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It's Nightkill. He's been there so long he rents out rooms to other people at a flat rate, but demands cash up front.

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:26 pm

Gagatron wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:
Chemical processes have no effect on sub-atomic ones.


Carbon is not subatomic, and yes they do. Ever heard of the effects of fire?


Radioactive decay is a subatomic process, fire is a chemical process. Fire does not turn one element into another.
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Please don't confuse my country for my politics; my country is being run as a parody, my posts aren't.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Xenohumanity wrote:
Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Gagatron » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:27 pm

UCUMAY wrote:
Gagatron wrote:
Carbon is not subatomic, and yes they do. Ever heard of the effects of fire?


Fire simply oxidizes.


Thus removing some of the carbon, and BOOM carbon dating has a flaw.
God, I want to dream again,
Take me where I've never been.
I wanna go there,
This time I'm not scared.
Music, love, peace, joy, history, religion, foreign cultures, foreign language, philosophy, debating, etc.


Zilam wrote:It always strikes me funny when people always complain "If God is good, why does he allow evil to exist"....Yet when God destroys every evil person in a flood, its a bad thing.

All sin is deserving of death.

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Postby UCUMAY » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:29 pm

Gagatron wrote:
UCUMAY wrote:
Fire simply oxidizes.


Thus removing some of the carbon, and BOOM carbon dating has a flaw.


:eyebrow: I can only find said effect on textiles.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_o ... archtype=a
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I may be young, and that's okay. Since age does not always bring wisdom. I may be stubborn to the point of stupidity; but at least I fight for my beliefs. I may be fooled by a lie; but I can then say I trusted. My heart may get broken however, then I can say I truly loved. With all this said I have lived. :D

I'm politically syncretic so stop asking. :)
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:30 pm

Gagatron wrote:
UCUMAY wrote:
Fire simply oxidizes.


Thus removing some of the carbon, and BOOM carbon dating has a flaw.


Fire removes some of the everything, it's not all that picky. And we carbon date fossils, not ashes. Fossils are notoriously non-flammable.
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Please don't confuse my country for my politics; my country is being run as a parody, my posts aren't.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Xenohumanity wrote:
Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Xarithis » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:31 pm

Gagatron wrote:Thus removing some of the carbon, and BOOM carbon dating has a flaw.

I'm not sure you understand the process of radioactive decay.
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Postby UCUMAY » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:32 pm

Xarithis wrote:
Gagatron wrote:Thus removing some of the carbon, and BOOM carbon dating has a flaw.

I'm not sure you understand the process of radioactive decay.

Gagatron is right... but for fabrics. Not necessarily for other things.
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I may be young, and that's okay. Since age does not always bring wisdom. I may be stubborn to the point of stupidity; but at least I fight for my beliefs. I may be fooled by a lie; but I can then say I trusted. My heart may get broken however, then I can say I truly loved. With all this said I have lived. :D

I'm politically syncretic so stop asking. :)
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Postby Gagatron » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:32 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Gagatron wrote:
Thus removing some of the carbon, and BOOM carbon dating has a flaw.


Fire removes some of the everything, it's not all that picky. And we carbon date fossils, not ashes. Fossils are notoriously non-flammable.


But then again, carbon dating only goes back 50,000 years, so it's completely useless most of the time.
God, I want to dream again,
Take me where I've never been.
I wanna go there,
This time I'm not scared.
Music, love, peace, joy, history, religion, foreign cultures, foreign language, philosophy, debating, etc.


Zilam wrote:It always strikes me funny when people always complain "If God is good, why does he allow evil to exist"....Yet when God destroys every evil person in a flood, its a bad thing.

All sin is deserving of death.

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