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Postby Kager South » Wed May 15, 2024 9:17 am

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first american football club: Princeton Tigers founded in 1869
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Postby Dragoria » Wed May 15, 2024 9:20 am

Okay, and what about them? Are we supposed to be discussing differences between the two? Similarities? Favorite teams?
Perhaps you should slow down on the making new threads, and read/participate in some of the ones already around until you have a better feel for what makes a "good" thread starting post.
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Postby Kager South » Wed May 15, 2024 9:24 am

Dragoria wrote:Okay, and what about them?

Well that is proof that it's not soccer but football
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Postby Floofybit » Wed May 15, 2024 9:25 am

Kager South wrote:
Dragoria wrote:Okay, and what about them?

Well that is proof that it's not soccer but football

Is anyone saying otherwise?
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Postby Neu California » Wed May 15, 2024 9:27 am

Kager South wrote:
Dragoria wrote:Okay, and what about them?

Well that is proof that it's not soccer but football

Different places have different names for different things. News at 11.

Also, you left out Australian Rules Football.
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Postby Varsemia » Wed May 15, 2024 9:27 am

We call it soccer here but I've heard it both ways(I'm not American btw)
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Postby Saltidia » Wed May 15, 2024 9:30 am

Neu California wrote:
Kager South wrote:Well that is proof that it's not soccer but football

Different places have different names for different things. News at 11.

Also, you left out Australian Rules Football.

Is that not rugby or is there a slight difference?
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Postby Dayganistan » Wed May 15, 2024 9:42 am

The football vs soccer argument is stupid. There were multiple codes of football that were referred to simply as "football" in the 19th century. Rugby became the dominant code of football in the United States and Canada, which evolved into American football and lead to that code being referred to simply as "football." It's like when Australians say "football" they're referring to Aussie rules football and use soccer for the other game. Besides, soccer was a term in use in England as a shortening of "association football" back when it needed to be called something other than simply "football" to distinguish itself from rugby.

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Postby Forsher » Wed May 15, 2024 9:47 am

The fucking cowards that changed NZ Soccer to NZ Football. Have a spine! Don't bow to the weight of cultural imperialism and cultural cringe.

Australia did the same thing, leaving the name Socceroos as an hilarious artefact of a bygone era.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Wed May 15, 2024 9:48 am

Dayganistan wrote:The football vs soccer argument is stupid. There were multiple codes of football that were referred to simply as "football" in the 19th century. Rugby became the dominant code of football in the United States and Canada, which evolved into American football and lead to that code being referred to simply as "football." It's like when Australians say "football" they're referring to Aussie rules football and use soccer for the other game. Besides, soccer was a term in use in England as a shortening of "association football" back when it needed to be called something other than simply "football" to distinguish itself from rugby.

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Postby Neu California » Wed May 15, 2024 9:52 am

Saltidia wrote:
Neu California wrote:Different places have different names for different things. News at 11.

Also, you left out Australian Rules Football.

Is that not rugby or is there a slight difference?

There are differences. This explains it well
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Postby Forsher » Wed May 15, 2024 10:11 am

Saltidia wrote:
Neu California wrote:Different places have different names for different things. News at 11.

Also, you left out Australian Rules Football.

Is that not rugby or is there a slight difference?


Aussie Rules is nuts.

Like, if you've never seen a game of rugby I guess you could think they're the same but it's a seriously weird sport that plays completely differently. Like, the visual contrast between Aussie Rules and rugby is as stark as that between rugby and soccer.
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Postby Nanocyberia » Wed May 15, 2024 10:19 am

Dayganistan wrote:The football vs soccer argument is stupid.

Technically, football is a family of sports which includes specific sports such as association football (aka soccer in some countries) and rugby...
That being said, locally, people are just going to use the word 'football' as a short form. For example, I doubt Australians systematically refer to their variation as "Australian rules football". Of course, it's different if one or more foreigners are involved because then you might need to make a distinction from the form of football that they play... (Do hit me with a "Captain Obvious" for that last line... :p )
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Postby El Lazaro » Wed May 15, 2024 10:29 am

Dragoria wrote:Okay, and what about them? Are we supposed to be discussing differences between the two? Similarities? Favorite teams?
Perhaps you should slow down on the making new threads, and read/participate in some of the ones already around until you have a better feel for what makes a "good" thread starting post.

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Postby New Visayan Islands » Wed May 15, 2024 11:32 am

In the absence of a substantial opening post, this thread has been locked. If you intend to start a discussion on the differences between Association Football and American Football, to say nothing of the various other codes of football past and present, we strongly suggest reviewing this before reposting.

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