UK Politics Thread: Conservative Losses in Local Elections

[Emotional Support Crocodile]

Three eejits, with 90 previous convictions between them, violently tried to rob a cashless Uber driver in Leicestershire. When he pointed out how Uber worked, they took his wallet but finding no money threw it away. One of them then decided to force him to drive to a supermarket to take money out of a cashpoint, but when they arrived he pointed out that they had thrown his cashpoint card away with his wallet. So he was forced to drive back to help look for his wallet... at this point he started screaming for help and his attacker knocked him to the ground and ran off. They were all arrested the next day, and recently sentenced to 64, 48, and 30 months.

Fuck me, people are getting stupider.

[Ifreann]

Three eejits, with 90 previous convictions between them, violently tried to rob a cashless Uber driver in Leicestershire. When he pointed out how Uber worked, they took his wallet but finding no money threw it away. One of them then decided to force him to drive to a supermarket to take money out of a cashpoint, but when they arrived he pointed out that they had thrown his cashpoint card away with his wallet. So he was forced to drive back to help look for his wallet... at this point he started screaming for help and his attacker knocked him to the ground and ran off. They were all arrested the next day, and recently sentenced to 64, 48, and 30 months.

Fuck me, people are getting stupider.

Must be something seriously wrong with the education system to be turning out criminals this incompetent.

[Emotional Support Crocodile]

Three eejits, with 90 previous convictions between them, violently tried to rob a cashless Uber driver in Leicestershire. When he pointed out how Uber worked, they took his wallet but finding no money threw it away. One of them then decided to force him to drive to a supermarket to take money out of a cashpoint, but when they arrived he pointed out that they had thrown his cashpoint card away with his wallet. So he was forced to drive back to help look for his wallet... at this point he started screaming for help and his attacker knocked him to the ground and ran off. They were all arrested the next day, and recently sentenced to 64, 48, and 30 months.

Fuck me, people are getting stupider.

Must be something seriously wrong with the education system to be turning out criminals this incompetent.

Lack of Government investment in vocational training for crims.

[Almonaster Nuevo]

Alright the website is back up and running so time for another poll. Gona do a voting intention one for the locals, as far as i am aware the only elections happening in Wales this year are commissioner elections, so ill include Plaid in the polling options but note its only for a handful of specific elections this time.

So "UK" even though it's basically just England?

Don't worry, we're used to it, although I'm surprised at you being the one involved.

[Almonaster Nuevo]

Must be something seriously wrong with the education system to be turning out criminals this incompetent.

Lack of Government investment in vocational training for crims.

Tough for the causers of crime.

[Kerwa]

Three eejits, with 90 previous convictions between them, violently tried to rob a cashless Uber driver in Leicestershire. When he pointed out how Uber worked, they took his wallet but finding no money threw it away. One of them then decided to force him to drive to a supermarket to take money out of a cashpoint, but when they arrived he pointed out that they had thrown his cashpoint card away with his wallet. So he was forced to drive back to help look for his wallet... at this point he started screaming for help and his attacker knocked him to the ground and ran off. They were all arrested the next day, and recently sentenced to 64, 48, and 30 months.

Fuck me, people are getting stupider.

Must be something seriously wrong with the education system to be turning out criminals this incompetent.

It’s the result of the rampant grade inflation that the Daily Mail warned us about.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Alright the website is back up and running so time for another poll. Gona do a voting intention one for the locals, as far as i am aware the only elections happening in Wales this year are commissioner elections, so ill include Plaid in the polling options but note its only for a handful of specific elections this time.

So "UK" even though it's basically just England?

Don't worry, we're used to it, although I'm surprised at you being the one involved.

Well i would say England elections but there are technically elections in Wales too this time around.

[Forsher]

So "UK" even though it's basically just England?

Don't worry, we're used to it, although I'm surprised at you being the one involved.

Well i would say England elections but there are technically elections in Wales too this time around.

The England and Technically Wales Local Elections of 2024 NSG Poll

[Ariddia]

It's really time for the Tories to go. I have no confidence in Labour, but the Conservative Party has become toxic to the point of damaging the Constitution. The Rwanda Bill, wherein Parliament says that something factually not true is true and forces the courts to pretend that it's true, is not just an attack on the independence of the judiciary; it's something that would be downright unimaginable in normal times.

[Almonaster Nuevo]

Next they will "reduce administrative overheads" by defining pi as 3, and insisting that budgets be prepared on that basis.

[Ariddia]

Next they will "reduce administrative overheads" by defining pi as 3, and insisting that budgets be prepared on that basis.

The law says it's true, so it is!

[The Archregimancy]

So "UK" even though it's basically just England?

Don't worry, we're used to it, although I'm surprised at you being the one involved.

Well i would say England elections but there are technically elections in Wales too this time around.

It's a fair enough poll under the circumstances, but I can't help but feel that 'how long will Humza Yousaf remain as First Minister' would have been an even better one.


And I bet the First Minister is really regretting right now being so dismissive of Ash Regan when she left the SNP for ABBA. Kate Forbes is meanwhile clearly already planning for another leadership tilt - as shown by all the statements she's putting out asking SNP members to rally around Yousaf.

[San Lumen]

No they cannot when you have a paper trail. You cannot program the machine to do anything other than count ballots. it's nothing more than a glorified calculator.

I was not accusing anyone of wrongdoing. I was asking how human error is accounted for.

Well, there's just a lot of people involved with counting, so the tallies all have to match up. Then too, British ballots are much simpler affairs than their US counterparts, there's a lot fewer things on them.

Makes sense.

[Vassenor]

Also that reminds me that I need to chase where my postal ballot got to. Because it’s not arrived yet.

[Emotional Support Crocodile]

Tory MP Dan Poulter defects to Labour.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68913287

Former minister and Conservative MP Dr Dan Poulter has quit the party to join Labour.

In an exclusive TV interview, the MP for Central Suffolk and North Ipswich told Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg that he could no longer "look people in the eye" and stay on as a Conservative.

Dr Poulter, who works part time as a doctor, said that Conservatives were no longer focused on public services.

He said the country needed a general election as soon as possible.

I guess he would like to be re-elected.

[The Matthew Islands]

"The difficulty for the Conservative Party is that the party I was elected into valued public services... it had a compassionate view about supporting the more disadvantaged in society."

Tory MP's are actually insane. How people like Poulter can say stuff like this with a straight face is absolutely incredible.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Tory MP Dan Poulter defects to Labour.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68913287

Former minister and Conservative MP Dr Dan Poulter has quit the party to join Labour.

In an exclusive TV interview, the MP for Central Suffolk and North Ipswich told Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg that he could no longer "look people in the eye" and stay on as a Conservative.

Dr Poulter, who works part time as a doctor, said that Conservatives were no longer focused on public services.

He said the country needed a general election as soon as possible.

I guess he would like to be re-elected.

Wew spicy

Well i would say England elections but there are technically elections in Wales too this time around.

It's a fair enough poll under the circumstances, but I can't help but feel that 'how long will Humza Yousaf remain as First Minister' would have been an even better one.


And I bet the First Minister is really regretting right now being so dismissive of Ash Regan when she left the SNP for ABBA. Kate Forbes is meanwhile clearly already planning for another leadership tilt - as shown by all the statements she's putting out asking SNP members to rally around Yousaf.

If the SNP shenanigans are still going on when the locals start ill swap the poll over to that. Or if Humza stands down it will probably be another SNP themed poll of some kind.

[Philjia]

Tory MP Dan Poulter defects to Labour.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68913287

Former minister and Conservative MP Dr Dan Poulter has quit the party to join Labour.

In an exclusive TV interview, the MP for Central Suffolk and North Ipswich told Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg that he could no longer "look people in the eye" and stay on as a Conservative.

Dr Poulter, who works part time as a doctor, said that Conservatives were no longer focused on public services.

He said the country needed a general election as soon as possible.

I guess he would like to be re-elected.

He's also said he's standing down at the next election so doesn't want to be re-elected after all.

[Emotional Support Crocodile]

Tory MP Dan Poulter defects to Labour.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68913287



I guess he would like to be re-elected.

He's also said he's standing down at the next election so doesn't want to be re-elected after all.

Odd. So he is switching party for a couple of months at best.

[The Archregimancy]

He's also said he's standing down at the next election so doesn't want to be re-elected after all.

Odd. So he is switching party for a couple of months at best.

Maybe he genuinely means it.

Slightly crazy thought, I know; but stranger things happen.

[Emotional Support Crocodile]

Odd. So he is switching party for a couple of months at best.

Maybe he genuinely means it.

Slightly crazy thought, I know; but stranger things happen.

He must be truly angry at the Conservative Party

[The Notorious Mad Jack]

A defection has brought out the usual suspects who declare it a damning indictment of the party that a Tory would defect to it. I always find such complaints amusing, given that the barriers between the parties have always been rather porous - Churchill was, famously, a Liberal member of government during World War 1 before returning to the Tories later on and eventually becoming PM. Oswald Mosley spent more time in the Labour Party than he did in the Tories, and there's been mass defections both to and from the party before.

[The Archregimancy]

Maybe he genuinely means it.

Slightly crazy thought, I know; but stranger things happen.

He must be truly angry at the Conservative Party

Quoting Mr Poulter:

It feels to me that the Tory party has gone from being a pragmatic, centrist, centre-right party which focused on and understood the importance of public service and the state to deliver certain things …and had a compassionate outlook on key issues. It has gone from that and feels like it has become a nationalist party of the right, much more of what we see in Europe.

It is not to say all [Tory] MPs are like that. There are good MPs, but it feels that the party is ever moving rightwards, ever presenting a more nationalist position rather than a position that actually focuses on what a lot of people want to see, which is a level of compassion from government but also well-run public services.

Given that this is a Conservative Party that, post Johnson's purge of moderate Remainers, cosies up to Giorgia Meloni's Fratelli d'Italia, and often openly admires Viktor Orban's Fidesz, I find it hard to disagree with Mr Poulter's analysis. One of the things we seem to have become blind to in the UK in recent years is the extent to which the pre-2016 broad church centre right Conservative Party has become just another hard-right European populist nationalist party. I acknowledge that I'm oversimplifying for the sake of an NSG paragraph, and there's a strong argument that the process began before 2016, but when it comes to government rhetoric, the current Conservative Party has more in common with Fratelli d'Italia, Fidesz, Prawo i Sprawiedliwość, or even arguably Le Pen's Rassemblement National and Wilders' Partij voor de Vrijheid, than it does with the party of John Major, Michael Heseltine, or coalition-era David Cameron.

Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing is no doubt a matter of taste, but I can't say it's something I'm personally comfortable with.

[Hrstrovokia]

Looks like hundreds, possibly thousands, of reufgees and migrants are heading to Northern Ireland to pass into the Republic of Ireland and try claim aslyum in Dublin thanks to that Rwanda plan fron Sunak.

The Irish government is going to try send back any refugees who have previously claimed aslyum in the UK.

The plan from the Irish government will require emergency legislation. According to this article - "It comes after it emerged 80% of recent arrivals came here from the UK via the land border with Northern Ireland."

There is no border infrastructure between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. By that, I mean no checkpoints, control points. You can take a bus, car, or train from Belfast and travel freely without any kind of hinderance to Dublin.

So I know this is a UK politics thread - and I am not trying to hijack at all, just talking about this Rwanda thing, because it's having a big effect over here. What are peoples thoughts on it?

[The Archregimancy]

Looks like hundreds, possibly thousands, of reufgees and migrants are heading to Northern Ireland to pass into the Republic of Ireland and try claim aslyum in Dublin thanks to that Rwanda plan fron Sunak.

That's not what the linked article says.