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Postby Galactic Powers » Sun Feb 11, 2024 9:15 pm


Maybe Twitter isn’t so bad after all :rofl:
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Feb 11, 2024 9:24 pm

Based Illinois wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Limited and ridiculous understanding of education but okay.


58% of students and grads report that their career or job were the main motivating factor their pursuit of higher education.

I suppose I should ask, what is your interpretation of the function of higher learning?

I feel like I have been this entire time?

And if you were gonna try and make your case, 'just over half' wasn't the killer blow that you were looking for.

Education gives you a broader understanding of the world you live in and how it works, enriches your own life beyond your value to some employer, presents opportunities that you wouldn't otherwise be aware of or capable of taking advantage of.

You are not your value to an employer. You are more than a consumer. Education lets you know that. That's why your people are against it.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Feb 11, 2024 9:26 pm

Based Illinois wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Well that's it, no one wants their blue collar workers understanding history and sociology and the arts, that's how you get people getting ideas above their station.


I''m not dismissing the value of art, history, and culture ( i'm an archaeologist damn it, history and culture is my whole deal), these things should absolutely be taught. Having an appreciation for art and music however are of little comfort to people who don't know how to manage their finances, who don't know how to raise children, who don't know how to do basic maintenance on their cars, how to start a business, who don't know CPR, etc.

On the contrary, love of the arts is more important to people whose lives have little if anything else going for them. Johnny Cash didn't sing Folsom Entrepreneur Blues.

Abstract subjects at the high school level should be touched upon, and offered as electives, but practical skills should take precedent. If you're struggling to get by, one has little time to appreciate much else. By equipping people with the skills they need to succeed early on in life, we can ensure they have the luxury to appreciate things like art, history, and culture, for the rest of their lives.

These are only mutually exclusive options if you insist on underfunding schools.



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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Feb 11, 2024 9:38 pm

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Postby Corrian » Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:37 pm


Biden wins reelection confirmed.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:56 pm

Eh sure enough, 'rigged' is trending on Twixter.

Weird.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:02 pm



So what's the context for this particular Dark Brandon moment?
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Postby Luna Amore » Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:11 pm

Vassenor wrote:


So what's the context for this particular Dark Brandon moment?

Chiefs won the Super Bowl.

Taylor Swift is a government psyop confirmed. Or something. I don't really know anymore. It's too insane to follow.

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Postby Senkaku » Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:12 pm

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During the Super Bowl while Rafah is being bombed… very poor taste
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Postby Corrian » Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:01 am

Vassenor wrote:


So what's the context for this particular Dark Brandon moment?

Republicans have made out the Superbowl as like a rigged thing because Taylor Swift is there and the Chiefs will be made to automatically win because of it for ratings or something, so the Biden campaign is playing into that with this joke.

Senkaku wrote:
Ifreann wrote:


Dark Brandon rises.

During the Super Bowl while Rafah is being bombed… very poor taste

Inconvenient timing or not, its still funny.
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Postby Tarsonis » Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:05 am

Corrian wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So what's the context for this particular Dark Brandon moment?

Republicans have made out the Superbowl as like a rigged thing because Taylor Swift is there and the Chiefs will be made to automatically win because of it for ratings or something, so the Biden campaign is playing into that with this joke.

Senkaku wrote:During the Super Bowl while Rafah is being bombed… very poor taste

Inconvenient timing or not, its still funny.


Besides, Biden isn't Trump, he doesn't run his Twitter account the communications office does.
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Postby Phobos Drilling and Manufacturing » Mon Feb 12, 2024 3:38 am

Galactic Powers wrote:

Maybe Twitter isn’t so bad after all :rofl:

No fucking way lmao
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Postby Bradfordville » Mon Feb 12, 2024 5:50 am



Whats he's saying.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Feb 12, 2024 5:57 am

Bradfordville wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
You have an excuse or something demeaning about everyone. No one is ever good enough for you. This coming from someone who called the founding fathers racist and sexist for not including black and woman's rights. Something that wasn't even on the radar back then. if they had tried to abolish slavery the convention would have fallen apart and the country dissolved. Or that Eisenhower should have arrested Faubus. Everything isn't as simple as you make it out to be.


Yeah, Johnson was a fucking racist. Go out and say some of the stuff he said and see if people don't call you one as well.

And there are some people who were good enough for me. We could start with Thomas Paine.

Yes so racist he worked to get the civil rights and voting rights act passed.

You are so utterly ignorant of history it’s scary. If they had tried to abolish slavery at the convention the south would have walked out and the convention likely dissolved and the country along with it.
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Postby Bradfordville » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:05 am

San Lumen wrote:
Bradfordville wrote:
Yeah, Johnson was a fucking racist. Go out and say some of the stuff he said and see if people don't call you one as well.

And there are some people who were good enough for me. We could start with Thomas Paine.

Yes so racist he worked to get the civil rights and voting rights act passed.


People who call black people "n*ggers" are racist. Like Jesus christ Lumen, even trump knows not to do that in public. And Johnson was on the side of black people not having civil rights until it became clear that continuing to deny them civil rights would lead to the friendly doctor being replaced by people like the black panthers or the NOI.

You are so utterly ignorant of history it’s scary. If they had tried to abolish slavery at the convention the south would have walked out and the convention likely dissolved and the country along with it.


Nobody ever said they could have. What I said, and what you annoyingly keep ignoring, was that JEFFERSON WAS TOTALLY ABLE TO FREE HIS OWN SLAVES AND CHOSE NOT TO. There, it's in all caps. Do you see what Jefferson did not do? The man was a racist, and so was Lyndon Johnson. Don't make me go get some racist LBJ quotes now. We've already posted here what Jefferson said, but it's alot safer for work than what "totally not racist" Lyndon Johnson thought about blacks.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:10 am

Bradfordville wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Yes so racist he worked to get the civil rights and voting rights act passed.


People who call black people "n*ggers" are racist. Like Jesus christ Lumen, even trump knows not to do that in public. And Johnson was on the side of black people not having civil rights until it became clear that continuing to deny them civil rights would lead to the friendly doctor being replaced by people like the black panthers or the NOI.

You are so utterly ignorant of history it’s scary. If they had tried to abolish slavery at the convention the south would have walked out and the convention likely dissolved and the country along with it.


Nobody ever said they could have. What I said, and what you annoyingly keep ignoring, was that JEFFERSON WAS TOTALLY ABLE TO FREE HIS OWN SLAVES AND CHOSE NOT TO. There, it's in all caps. Do you see what Jefferson did not do? The man was a racist, and so was Lyndon Johnson. Don't make me go get some racist LBJ quotes now. We've already posted here what Jefferson said, but it's alot safer for work than what "totally not racist" Lyndon Johnson thought about blacks.


Were the delegates at the convention racist for not abolishing slavery?
Yet you keep talking about what should have happened.

You seem to want to only focus on the bad things historical figures did and not look at the overwhelming good. But I’m not surprised coming from someone who wants to demolish the Jefferson memorial. Didn’t you also say you consider Lincoln a racist?
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Postby Kerwa » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:19 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Based Illinois wrote:
58% of students and grads report that their career or job were the main motivating factor their pursuit of higher education.

I suppose I should ask, what is your interpretation of the function of higher learning?

I feel like I have been this entire time?

And if you were gonna try and make your case, 'just over half' wasn't the killer blow that you were looking for.

Education gives you a broader understanding of the world you live in and how it works, enriches your own life beyond your value to some employer, presents opportunities that you wouldn't otherwise be aware of or capable of taking advantage of.

You are not your value to an employer. You are more than a consumer. Education lets you know that. That's why your people are against it.


People aren’t really questioning the value of education qua education, but credentialism and the method by which it is delivered. There are plenty of alternative ways of delivering education that don’t involve four years of someone’s life and hundreds and thousands of dollars, especially in the modern era. That’s the real gripe.

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Postby Haganham » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:25 am

Ifreann wrote:
Based Illinois wrote:
I''m not dismissing the value of art, history, and culture ( i'm an archaeologist damn it, history and culture is my whole deal), these things should absolutely be taught. Having an appreciation for art and music however are of little comfort to people who don't know how to manage their finances, who don't know how to raise children, who don't know how to do basic maintenance on their cars, how to start a business, who don't know CPR, etc.

On the contrary, love of the arts is more important to people whose lives have little if anything else going for them. Johnny Cash didn't sing Folsom Entrepreneur Blues.

Abstract subjects at the high school level should be touched upon, and offered as electives, but practical skills should take precedent. If you're struggling to get by, one has little time to appreciate much else. By equipping people with the skills they need to succeed early on in life, we can ensure they have the luxury to appreciate things like art, history, and culture, for the rest of their lives.

These are only mutually exclusive options if you insist on underfunding schools.

There is a limit to the amount of learning time in childhood. And you can't get around it by adding more school days or extending class time, as what children learn outside of school is just as important, and extending hours just makes children less attentive.
And schools aren't underfunded, the US spends on average $13,494 per pupil. With an average class size around 18.6 that's about 250k per classroom. The failure of the American education system is not a budget issue. It's an administrative issue.
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Postby Great Bulgarian Kingdom » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:32 am

Haganham wrote:
Ifreann wrote:On the contrary, love of the arts is more important to people whose lives have little if anything else going for them. Johnny Cash didn't sing Folsom Entrepreneur Blues.


These are only mutually exclusive options if you insist on underfunding schools.

There is a limit to the amount of learning time in childhood. And you can't get around it by adding more school days or extending class time, as what children learn outside of school is just as important, and extending hours just makes children less attentive.
And schools aren't underfunded, the US spends on average $13,494 per pupil. With an average class size around 18.6 that's about 250k per classroom. The failure of the American education system is not a budget issue. It's an administrative issue.

"On average" is the key word. Many, many schools get less than that, while some schools get way more than that. Specifically, inner city schools, crowded small-town schools, minority-majority schools, etc., are certainly underfunded.

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Postby Kerwa » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:36 am

Great Bulgarian Kingdom wrote:
Haganham wrote:There is a limit to the amount of learning time in childhood. And you can't get around it by adding more school days or extending class time, as what children learn outside of school is just as important, and extending hours just makes children less attentive.
And schools aren't underfunded, the US spends on average $13,494 per pupil. With an average class size around 18.6 that's about 250k per classroom. The failure of the American education system is not a budget issue. It's an administrative issue.

"On average" is the key word. Many, many schools get less than that, while some schools get way more than that. Specifically, inner city schools, crowded small-town schools, minority-majority schools, etc., are certainly underfunded.


That’s not really true. Look at NYC, Chicago, Baltimore etc. Funding isn’t the problem.

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Postby Bradfordville » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:37 am

San Lumen wrote:
Bradfordville wrote:

People who call black people "n*ggers" are racist. Like Jesus christ Lumen, even trump knows not to do that in public. And Johnson was on the side of black people not having civil rights until it became clear that continuing to deny them civil rights would lead to the friendly doctor being replaced by people like the black panthers or the NOI.



Nobody ever said they could have. What I said, and what you annoyingly keep ignoring, was that JEFFERSON WAS TOTALLY ABLE TO FREE HIS OWN SLAVES AND CHOSE NOT TO. There, it's in all caps. Do you see what Jefferson did not do? The man was a racist, and so was Lyndon Johnson. Don't make me go get some racist LBJ quotes now. We've already posted here what Jefferson said, but it's alot safer for work than what "totally not racist" Lyndon Johnson thought about blacks.


Were the delegates at the convention racist for not abolishing slavery?
Yet you keep talking about what should have happened.

You seem to want to only focus on the bad things historical figures did and not look at the overwhelming good. But I’m not surprised coming from someone who wants to demolish the Jefferson memorial. Didn’t you also say you consider Lincoln a racist?


Yeah? He was? A man who says blacks and whites aren't equal is very much a racist.

Why are you getting so offended on behalf of long dead white men? Do you personally feel attacked as a white man when people point out that this country hasn't been very nice to some folks, and that many of your historical heroes were themselves villains to others? You know there's a guy running this year who represents all the white people who feel personally discriminated against because someone pointed out that the past wasn't so rose colored. You should consider him this November when you're in the voting booth.
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Postby Bradfordville » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:39 am

Kerwa wrote:
Great Bulgarian Kingdom wrote:"On average" is the key word. Many, many schools get less than that, while some schools get way more than that. Specifically, inner city schools, crowded small-town schools, minority-majority schools, etc., are certainly underfunded.


That’s not really true. Look at NYC, Chicago, Baltimore etc. Funding isn’t the problem.


Funding is definitely the problem in inner city schools. I went to one as a kid. There is no way it was getting the money it needed.
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Postby Great Bulgarian Kingdom » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:40 am

Kerwa wrote:
Great Bulgarian Kingdom wrote:"On average" is the key word. Many, many schools get less than that, while some schools get way more than that. Specifically, inner city schools, crowded small-town schools, minority-majority schools, etc., are certainly underfunded.


That’s not really true. Look at NYC, Chicago, Baltimore etc. Funding isn’t the problem.

Here's something on my state, SC, and our underfunding issue:
https://www.statehousereport.com/2018/0 ... -millions/
And here's something from New Jersey detailing the effects of underfunding on NJ schools:
https://www.njpp.org/publications/repor ... erfunding/
Underfunding is certainly an issue in education. A very large issue. It's not the only issue with our education system, yes, but it certainly is one.

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:41 am

Bradfordville wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Were the delegates at the convention racist for not abolishing slavery?
Yet you keep talking about what should have happened.

You seem to want to only focus on the bad things historical figures did and not look at the overwhelming good. But I’m not surprised coming from someone who wants to demolish the Jefferson memorial. Didn’t you also say you consider Lincoln a racist?


Yeah? He was? A man who says blacks and whites aren't equal is very much a racist.

Why are you getting so offended on behalf of long dead white men? Do you personally feel attacked as a white man when people point out that this country hasn't been very nice to some folks, and that many of your historical heroes were themselves villains to others? You know there's a guy running this year who represents all the white people who feel personally discriminated against because someone pointed out that the past wasn't so rose colored. You should consider him this November when you're in the voting booth.


No what get offended by is people using current standards for historical figures and pointing out what should have happened when more often than not it would have lead to a worse outcome.

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Postby Bradfordville » Mon Feb 12, 2024 6:42 am

San Lumen wrote:
Bradfordville wrote:
Yeah? He was? A man who says blacks and whites aren't equal is very much a racist.

Why are you getting so offended on behalf of long dead white men? Do you personally feel attacked as a white man when people point out that this country hasn't been very nice to some folks, and that many of your historical heroes were themselves villains to others? You know there's a guy running this year who represents all the white people who feel personally discriminated against because someone pointed out that the past wasn't so rose colored. You should consider him this November when you're in the voting booth.


No what get offended by is people using current standards for historical figures and pointing out what should have happened when more often than not it would have lead to a worse outcome.


"Current standards" that still existed even in that era. Oh everyone thought blacks were inferior to whites back then? Bullshit. There were whites who didn't think that. And guess who else didn't think that either?

Most black people. The only perspective you are considered is that of a rich white man. Not the millions of people who were not that.
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