American Politics: Supreme Court rejects 14th Amendment

[Neu California]

To be fair, Hamas has almost certainly killed far more than 25k people, if not directly, from how they run Gaza.

Are you sure about that? They've definitely killed, that isn't in question (we all remember what they did to the PA in Gaza, which was years before October 7th), but well over 25,000? I don't know. Does anyone have any stats on how many people hamas has executed?

Just noting that I was talking about the current conflict, not overall.

[Great Bulgarian Kingdom]

To be fair, Hamas has almost certainly killed far more than 25k people, if not directly, from how they run Gaza.

Are you sure about that? They've definitely killed, that isn't in question (we all remember what they did to the PA in Gaza, which was years before October 7th), but well over 25,000? I don't know. Does anyone have any stats on how many people hamas has executed?

I wasn't referring to executions, but rather horrid mismanagement resulting in preventable deaths by how they run Gaza.

[Bradfordville]

Are you sure about that? They've definitely killed, that isn't in question (we all remember what they did to the PA in Gaza, which was years before October 7th), but well over 25,000? I don't know. Does anyone have any stats on how many people hamas has executed?

I wasn't referring to executions, but rather horrid mismanagement resulting in preventable deaths by how they run Gaza.

I'm actually curious about that. Gaza isn't exactly a fun place to live (it's basically the closest thing the Levant can offer to damnation in the world of the living), so I can imagine alot of people have starved to death or died of otherwise preventable diseases within the strip.

[Cannot think of a name]

..He could have looked at trump and said something along lines of “say what you want about me as that is part of the job. Talk about my wife like that again and I will knock you on your ass!”. Man is also a coward so it would never happen.

The wife isn't actually that important in my experience,

What experience?

[Bradfordville]

..He could have looked at trump and said something along lines of “say what you want about me as that is part of the job. Talk about my wife like that again and I will knock you on your ass!”. Man is also a coward so it would never happen.

The wife isn't actually that important in my experience, especially if a relationship is more about business and convience than romance, of which I don't have a romantic bone in my body, never really have. Perhaps it is different looking in from outside than other way around?

It'd take more than someone simply being married to me to care enough about what other people say about them. I'd trust them to defend themselves? A significant other is often a source of more problems and conflict than solutions if you're not fortunate or chose wisely. We probably know nothing about how Ted Cruz and his wife got together or how they interact.

I think this says more about you as a person than it does about marriage. Most people expect their spouse to stand up for them, and I'm genuinely surprised that Cruz bowing down before Donald hasn't torn his marriage apart and led to a nasty divorce. If I was his wife, I don't think I'd forgive him for palling with a guy who insulted me and my father in law as well.

[American Legionaries]

The wife isn't actually that important in my experience, especially if a relationship is more about business and convience than romance, of which I don't have a romantic bone in my body, never really have. Perhaps it is different looking in from outside than other way around?

It'd take more than someone simply being married to me to care enough about what other people say about them. I'd trust them to defend themselves? A significant other is often a source of more problems and conflict than solutions if you're not fortunate or chose wisely. We probably know nothing about how Ted Cruz and his wife got together or how they interact.

I think this says more about you as a person than it does about marriage. Most people expect their spouse to stand up for them, and I'm genuinely surprised that Cruz bowing down before Donald hasn't torn his marriage apart and led to a nasty divorce. If I was his wife, I don't think I'd forgive him for palling with a guy who insulted me and my father in law as well.

Have you considered that there are issues at stake that far outweigh Donald Trump saying mean stuff?

[The Black Forrest]

I think this says more about you as a person than it does about marriage. Most people expect their spouse to stand up for them, and I'm genuinely surprised that Cruz bowing down before Donald hasn't torn his marriage apart and led to a nasty divorce. If I was his wife, I don't think I'd forgive him for palling with a guy who insulted me and my father in law as well.

Have you considered that there are issues at stake that far outweigh Donald Trump saying mean stuff?

Such as?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Have you considered that there are issues at stake that far outweigh Donald Trump saying mean stuff?

Such as?

SCOTUS picks instantly come to mind. If you're someone like Ted Cruz, then getting those people on the bench mattered infinitely more than whatever mean things Trump said.

[The Black Forrest]

Such as?

SCOTUS picks instantly come to mind. If you're someone like Ted Cruz, then getting those people on the bench mattered infinitely more than whatever mean things Trump said.

Why? You guys own the court what more do you need?

Even then character is everything in politics. You can have the best ideas and yet if people don’t like your character.

Even now he is doing his racist usual. Now it’s a repeat where he has to emphasize Halley’s real name.

People respond to racism. They like it.

[Washington Resistance Army]

SCOTUS picks instantly come to mind. If you're someone like Ted Cruz, then getting those people on the bench mattered infinitely more than whatever mean things Trump said.

Why? You guys own the court what more do you need?

The only reason the GOP owns the court is precisely because of Trump, for better or worse he handed conservatives their biggest win in decades. As for what more? The answer to that is simple, Alito and Thomas are old, if the GOP wins again then it's very plausible they retire and get replaced.

Even then character is everything in politics.

This hasn't been true for a while now. Ability to deliver results is all that matters nowadays. Biden has character and look at his polling numbers, nobody gives a shit about decorum.

[American Legionaries]

Such as?

SCOTUS picks instantly come to mind. If you're someone like Ted Cruz, then getting those people on the bench mattered infinitely more than whatever mean things Trump said.

SCOTUS justices are a big thing, but in the more general sense "government policy" is what's important. There's literally no harm that can come from Donald Trump saying words, there's a lot of harm that can come from Democratic hands on the levers of power.

[The Black Forrest]

Why? You guys own the court what more do you need?

The only reason the GOP owns the court is precisely because of Trump, for better or worse he handed conservatives their biggest win in decades. As for what more? The answer to that is simple, Alito and Thomas are old, if the GOP wins again then it's very plausible they retire and get replaced.

*shrugs* it really doesn’t matter anymore. The country is pretty well fucked right now.

The sign will be the case of the stolen documents. If he does not get punished; the rule of law can’t be trusted.

Even then character is everything in politics.

This hasn't been true for a while now. Ability to deliver results is all that matters nowadays. Biden has character and look at his polling numbers, nobody gives a shit about decorum.

Results? Nobody cares about fucking results. The border and immigration will NOT get resolved. Why would it? The trump party would lose a very valuable dog whistle. Climate is not going to get addressed. Jobs? Nothing significant will happen on that front. Education?

The idiot people talk about results and are easily dissuaded by a few minor tax cuts.

[Washington Resistance Army]

The sign will be the case of the stolen documents. If he does not get punished; the rule of law can’t be trusted.

Even if he's found guilty it won't change anything, even a pretty decent number of independents think the charges against him are politically motivated. Anyone already supporting him won't have their opinions changed by a legal case.

Results? Nobody cares about fucking results.

Except a lot of people do, and it's actually one of the things Trump seriously has going for him in regard to the Republican primary. The justices he appointed killed Roe v Wade and protected gun rights in Bruen, he cut taxes, a lot of folks liked his foreign policy, CHIPS was started under the Trump admin, for better or worse he tried to build a border wall, etc etc. There's a very popular conception amongst right leaning people that Trump took the rhetoric that GOP party leaders have spent decades spouting and actually tried to put it into action instead of just campaigning on it. It's one of many reasons he's so popular with the base.

[Bradfordville]

SCOTUS picks instantly come to mind. If you're someone like Ted Cruz, then getting those people on the bench mattered infinitely more than whatever mean things Trump said.

SCOTUS justices are a big thing, but in the more general sense "government policy" is what's important. There's literally no harm that can come from Donald Trump saying words, there's a lot of harm that can come from Democratic hands on the levers of power.

Trump's words can very much cause harm. If he says people should "go after" someone, that can lead to a very nasty outcome, seeing as he's a man with alot of fans who would do anything for him.

Besides, it's not like it ever stays at words. Trump is run for president, not national mascot or figurehead. He's gonna be able to do more than just talk as a president.

[Ngelmish]

Why? You guys own the court what more do you need?

The only reason the GOP owns the court is precisely because of Trump, for better or worse he handed conservatives their biggest win in decades. As for what more? The answer to that is simple, Alito and Thomas are old, if the GOP wins again then it's very plausible they retire and get replaced.

Even then character is everything in politics.

This hasn't been true for a while now. Ability to deliver results is all that matters nowadays. Biden has character and look at his polling numbers, nobody gives a shit about decorum.

The GOP owned the court prior to Gorsuch's confirmation. Granted, if Hillary Clinton had become president that wouldn't have remained the case, but the GOP still owned the court as of 2016.

[The Black Forrest]

The sign will be the case of the stolen documents. If he does not get punished; the rule of law can’t be trusted.

Even if he's found guilty it won't change anything, even a pretty decent number of independents think the charges against him are politically motivated. Anyone already supporting him won't have their opinions changed by a legal case.

Why would I expect a ruling against him to change anybodies mind? They are morons. This is a test mark of the system. He has no excuse or justification for the documents he stole.

There is as I label the “aw shit” moment when you realize you have files you shouldn’t. If they were found, secured and people called; we would not have heard much or anything about it.

It’s doesn’t matter his cult thinks it’s politically motivated they are morons. Even if you explain it; they will just gaslight.

Results? Nobody cares about fucking results.

Except a lot of people do, and it's actually one of the things Trump seriously has going for him in regard to the Republican primary. The justices he appointed killed Roe v Wade and protected gun rights in Bruen, he cut taxes, a lot of folks liked his foreign policy, CHIPS was started under the Trump admin, for better or worse he tried to build a border wall, etc etc. There's a very popular conception amongst right leaning people that Trump took the rhetoric that GOP party leaders have spent decades spouting and actually tried to put it into action instead of just campaigning on it. It's one of many reasons he's so popular with the base.

*shrugs* they are trump party. They only care about their petty things and shiny things. The results they care about actions against non-whites, lgbt and anything woke.

There is not much that can do to argue with stupid people. Nothing will change their mind. Even with the wall. Trump took credit for plans already in place.

The people are morons. His incompetence over covid significantly increased our death numbers. And yet they think it’s just politics.

We are in bad times right now and they are only going to get worse.

[American Legionaries]

SCOTUS justices are a big thing, but in the more general sense "government policy" is what's important. There's literally no harm that can come from Donald Trump saying words, there's a lot of harm that can come from Democratic hands on the levers of power.

Trump's words can very much cause harm. If he says people should "go after" someone, that can lead to a very nasty outcome, seeing as he's a man with alot of fans who would do anything for him.

Besides, it's not like it ever stays at words. Trump is run for president, not national mascot or figurehead. He's gonna be able to do more than just talk as a president.

Your entire point is that he has the capacity, as president, to enact policy. Which is precisely why Ted and Heidi Cruz prefer that he win.

[The Black Forrest]

The only reason the GOP owns the court is precisely because of Trump, for better or worse he handed conservatives their biggest win in decades. As for what more? The answer to that is simple, Alito and Thomas are old, if the GOP wins again then it's very plausible they retire and get replaced.



This hasn't been true for a while now. Ability to deliver results is all that matters nowadays. Biden has character and look at his polling numbers, nobody gives a shit about decorum.

The GOP owned the court prior to Gorsuch's confirmation. Granted, if Hillary Clinton had become president that wouldn't have remained the case, but the GOP still owned the court as of 2016.

Oh Gorsuch. Looks like he may get his revenge for his mom…..

[The Black Forrest]

CHIPS

Oh wait you mean the CHIPS and Science act?

Using the very comment trumpests have made. Biden signed it. It doesn’t matter where it started. Even then can trump even explain what the CHIP industry is? Where it is?

[Washington Resistance Army]

It doesn’t matter where it started.

It kinda does, because if we're being honest Biden deserves no credit for it, and neither does Trump really. That was almost entirely the work of McConnell and Schumer at the end of the day, it's astounding they actually managed to work on that for so long and get it passed without it falling apart.

[The Black Forrest]

It doesn’t matter where it started.

It kinda does, because if we're being honest Biden deserves no credit for it, and neither does Trump really. That was almost entirely the work of McConnell and Schumer at the end of the day, it's astounding they actually managed to work on that for so long and get it passed without it falling apart.

Nobody is going to remember that.

Even you mentioned it in Trumps results……

[Washington Resistance Army]

It kinda does, because if we're being honest Biden deserves no credit for it, and neither does Trump really. That was almost entirely the work of McConnell and Schumer at the end of the day, it's astounding they actually managed to work on that for so long and get it passed without it falling apart.

Nobody is going to remember that.

Even you mentioned it in Trumps results……

Because I was explaining what his base thinks and why they like him.

[Rusozak]

CHIPS

Oh wait you mean the CHIPS and Science act?

Using the very comment trumpests have made. Biden signed it. It doesn’t matter where it started. Even then can trump even explain what the CHIP industry is? Where it is?

He'd probably say Idaho on account of all of the potatoes. Then call you an idiot for telling him you don't mean potato chips and say something about China stealing our chip factories from Idaho.

[The Black Forrest]

Nobody is going to remember that.

Even you mentioned it in Trumps results……

Because I was explaining what his base thinks and why they like him.

Well?……if you figure out a way to communicate with those morons, publish it.

[Lycom]

“No. We’re not a racist country, Brian. We’ve never been a racist country”: That was Haley's response to whether she thinks the GOP is a “racist party.”

In a statement to The Hill, Haley’s spokesperson defended the candidate’s comments, stressing the difference between labeling America a “racist country” and recognizing that racism has always existed.

“America has always had racism, but America has never been a racist country,” spokesperson AnnMarie Graham-Barnes said in the statement.

So, was having our military segregated not a racist policy then, according to Nikki?