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Optopias
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Postby Optopias » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:17 pm

I don’t think buying into one side completely is wise. Both parties are not logically consistent. That said, I have adopted more conservative values in the past month. I’ve listened to a lot of conservative YouTubers and have gleaned some respect for their values. They seem to really emphasize the importance of families, and that’s foundational to society.
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Free Algerstonia
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Postby Free Algerstonia » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:17 pm

Untecna wrote:
Tsardom of Alaska wrote:I demand evidence that the "theory" of evolution is "discredited".

Alger is a shitposter.

you fucking snitches always give it away i hate this website im quitting forever
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Postby El Lazaro » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:18 pm

The term “Alt Right” has been discarded into the graveyard of far-right euphemisms. Once a word becomes widely recognized, they leave it and continue bullshitting under a different one.

Gepanzerberg wrote:IIRC some of their stuff is pretty mainstream conservative, but certain videos (especially the ones on race, gender, religion, etc.) definitely have more alt-right viewpoints. They're a far right propaganda channel regardless.

The “slavery was good” Robert E. Lee video still was pretty out of left field. I mean, implying black peoples are genetically predisposed to violence and poverty is one thing, but you can’t be that honest.

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Kingdom of Intermaria
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Postby Kingdom of Intermaria » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:21 pm

This isn't right-wing but, I used to be an Anarkiddie and an Socialist kid who actually have no idea what Socialism is. And yeah, I still feel embarrassed or cringe after remembering that.
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Postby Necroghastia » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:21 pm

Optopias wrote:I don’t think buying into one side completely is wise. Both parties are not logically consistent. That said, I have adopted more conservative values in the past month. I’ve listened to a lot of conservative YouTubers and have gleaned some respect for their values. They seem to really emphasize the importance of families, and that’s foundational to society.

As long as those families are able-bodied, neurotypical, cisgender husband and wife with able-bodied, neurotypical, cisgender and straight children that go to church every sunday of course
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Kingdom of Intermaria
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Postby Kingdom of Intermaria » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:23 pm

Free Algerstonia wrote:
Untecna wrote:Alger is a shitposter.

you fucking snitches always give it away i hate this website im quitting forever

Flame? Because if it is, then someone gotta be reporting that. Plus the Wall of Mexico won't help you.
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|Republik Federasi| oudf Aituia|Since 1700s|
The Republic Aituian Federation (Republik Aituia Federasi) is an Right-Auth nation, or an Democratic Constitutional Republic, with 8 major political parties, the three biggest major parties being Liberal Aituian Party, Nationalist Democratic Coalition (renamed) and the "Yellow" Monarchists.
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Southern Republic of Dixie
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Postby Southern Republic of Dixie » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:23 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Optopias wrote:I don’t think buying into one side completely is wise. Both parties are not logically consistent. That said, I have adopted more conservative values in the past month. I’ve listened to a lot of conservative YouTubers and have gleaned some respect for their values. They seem to really emphasize the importance of families, and that’s foundational to society.

As long as those families are able-bodied, neurotypical, cisgender husband and wife with able-bodied, neurotypical, cisgender and straight children that go to church every sunday of course


I disagree. If that's the choice someone wants sure.
But any human individual can marry any other Human Individual they want.
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Gepanzerberg
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Postby Gepanzerberg » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:26 pm

El Lazaro wrote:
Gepanzerberg wrote:IIRC some of their stuff is pretty mainstream conservative, but certain videos (especially the ones on race, gender, religion, etc.) definitely have more alt-right viewpoints. They're a far right propaganda channel regardless.

The “slavery was good” Robert E. Lee video still was pretty out of left field. I mean, implying black peoples are genetically predisposed to violence and poverty is one thing, but you can’t be that honest.


:shock:

That's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay outta left field (though not unexpected).

It honestly seems like PragerU's positions switch depending on the person narrating the video, going from "the Republican Party was the party of Lincoln" to "Robert E. Lee was a good guy and slavery was alright".
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Postby Kingdom of Intermaria » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:29 pm

Free Algerstonia wrote:
Untecna wrote:Alger is a shitposter.

you fucking snitches always give it away i hate this website im quitting forever

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1762958 Nah remember Obama, the guy who destroyed thousands of childrens' hospitals (this part is only satire)? Remember Trump's bullshit rampage of raiding US White House? I don't think America's awsome or great. And also, go cry in your body-pillow, American.
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The Republic Aituian Federation (Republik Aituia Federasi) is an Right-Auth nation, or an Democratic Constitutional Republic, with 8 major political parties, the three biggest major parties being Liberal Aituian Party, Nationalist Democratic Coalition (renamed) and the "Yellow" Monarchists.
Hi, I am Aituia
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Postby Bovad » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:42 pm

Southern Republic of Dixie wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:As long as those families are able-bodied, neurotypical, cisgender husband and wife with able-bodied, neurotypical, cisgender and straight children that go to church every sunday of course


I disagree. If that's the choice someone wants sure.
But any human individual can marry any other Human Individual they want.

Aaand how are conservatives protecting that?
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Postby Southern Republic of Dixie » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:48 pm

Bovad wrote:
Southern Republic of Dixie wrote:
I disagree. If that's the choice someone wants sure.
But any human individual can marry any other Human Individual they want.

Aaand how are conservatives protecting that?


They aren't? I acknowledge the Right has A Very Simple Bias of Man and Women together where the man Goes to work and the Woman stays home. Which I think is dumb. Sex Roles do not matter in that situation.

A women can go to work and a man can take care of the home.

The guy should take care of the house with his wife in such a situation aswell of he works.

Women are not slaves to men. And vice versa.
In situations of Male And Male or Female And Female. It isn't that hard to acknowledge responsibility.

Even Male Female Male, or Female Female Male, Female female female, or Male male male relationships.
(That was a headache to type...)

I think i answered well enough....
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Free Algerstonia
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Postby Free Algerstonia » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:11 pm

Kingdom of Intermaria wrote:
Free Algerstonia wrote:you fucking snitches always give it away i hate this website im quitting forever

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1762958 Nah remember Obama, the guy who destroyed thousands of childrens' hospitals (this part is only satire)? Remember Trump's bullshit rampage of raiding US White House? I don't think America's awsome or great. And also, go cry in your body-pillow, American.

the white house has been subverted by lizard people, the jan 6 protest was completely justified and a great event for america
build the wall, drain the swamp, trump 2024

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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:14 pm

Optopias wrote:I don’t think buying into one side completely is wise. Both parties are not logically consistent. That said, I have adopted more conservative values in the past month. I’ve listened to a lot of conservative YouTubers and have gleaned some respect for their values. They seem to really emphasize the importance of families, and that’s foundational to society.

I'm not sure what the worst place to learn about politics is, but YouTube is up there.
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Kingdom of Intermaria
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Postby Kingdom of Intermaria » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:15 pm

Free Algerstonia wrote:
Kingdom of Intermaria wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1762958 Nah remember Obama, the guy who destroyed thousands of childrens' hospitals (this part is only satire)? Remember Trump's bullshit rampage of raiding US White House? I don't think America's awsome or great. And also, go cry in your body-pillow, American.

the white house has been subverted by lizard people, the jan 6 protest was completely justified and a great event for america

Fuck off American lib-tard
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The Republic Aituian Federation (Republik Aituia Federasi) is an Right-Auth nation, or an Democratic Constitutional Republic, with 8 major political parties, the three biggest major parties being Liberal Aituian Party, Nationalist Democratic Coalition (renamed) and the "Yellow" Monarchists.
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Postby Mountains and Volcanoes » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:16 pm

Free Algerstonia wrote:
Kingdom of Intermaria wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1762958 Nah remember Obama, the guy who destroyed thousands of childrens' hospitals (this part is only satire)? Remember Trump's bullshit rampage of raiding US White House? I don't think America's awsome or great. And also, go cry in your body-pillow, American.
the white house has been subverted by lizard people, the jan 6 protest was completely justified and a great event for america
FBI Is Watching...
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Postby Erablegensstan » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:17 pm

Free Algerstonia wrote:
Tsardom of Alaska wrote:I demand evidence that the "theory" of evolution is "discredited".

https://www.conservapedia.com/Counterex ... _Evolution does a fantastic job at destroying the liberal christianphobic narrative on evolution


This has to be a troll account. Or an angsty high schooler
Don't like em, simple as.

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Postby Free Algerstonia » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:18 pm

Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:
Free Algerstonia wrote:the white house has been subverted by lizard people, the jan 6 protest was completely justified and a great event for america
FBI Is Watching...

they watch everyone, fbi agents watch you through your walls, your windows, your tv cameras, your iphone cameras, your alexa microphones, satellite systems, night-vision goggles, security cameras, etc
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Postby Kingdom of Intermaria » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:19 pm

Free Algerstonia wrote:
Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:FBI Is Watching...

they watch everyone, fbi agents watch you through your walls, your windows, your tv cameras, your iphone cameras, your alexa microphones, satellite systems, night-vision goggles, security cameras, etc

Shut the fuck up Shrek
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The Republic Aituian Federation (Republik Aituia Federasi) is an Right-Auth nation, or an Democratic Constitutional Republic, with 8 major political parties, the three biggest major parties being Liberal Aituian Party, Nationalist Democratic Coalition (renamed) and the "Yellow" Monarchists.
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Postby El Lazaro » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:22 pm

Erablegensstan wrote:
Free Algerstonia wrote:https://www.conservapedia.com/Counterex ... _Evolution does a fantastic job at destroying the liberal christianphobic narrative on evolution


This has to be a troll account. Or an angsty high schooler

Those two groups tend to overlap.

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Postby Southern Republic of Dixie » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:27 pm

I think Both The Left and Right are Always Radicalized online.

Two different beliefs clashing.
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Postby Based Illinois » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:30 pm

Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:[*]How have you gotten out of it?


What do you mean out? I'm building a bunker down here brah

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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:30 pm

Southern Republic of Dixie wrote:I think Both The Left and Right are Always Radicalized online.

Two different beliefs clashing.

I was radicalized by punk rock, but ok.
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Postby Southern Republic of Dixie » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:31 pm

Alcala-Cordel wrote:
Southern Republic of Dixie wrote:I think Both The Left and Right are Always Radicalized online.

Two different beliefs clashing.

I was radicalized by punk rock, but ok.

Based
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Postby Radiatia » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:37 pm

Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:In regards to online discourse and radicalization: how many of you fallen down the alt right pipeline?


    There was a brief period when I was in my early to mid 20s in which I could have been described as a 'fellow traveller' of the alt right, or even as 'alt lite' for a while.

    Much of this stemmed from the usual factors - social isolation, economic deprivation and a sense that left-wing movements had (and have) betrayed the blue collar support base that they used to represent, in favour of corporate-funded identarian movements (i.e. they were complicit in dividing the working class on the basis of skin colour, what kind of junk they have between their legs, who they pray to and whether they like to shag their own sex or a different one.)

    I still stand by that argument but back then I was an active social media user and of course got dragged down all the usual rabbit by people who ostensibly shared my grievances, which led to contact with some truly vulgar individuals.

  • How have you gotten out of it?


  • There were three factors at play. The first is that, quite simply, I'm not an idiot and as soon as people in my online social circles started trotting out long-debunked racialist theories from the 19th century I got the hell out of there.

    The second is that I got a job, my isolation ended and I started associating with people in the real world. Most crucially, I started befriending people who were different to me. I became close friends with someone who was a Muslim, I met some people on the political left who weren't radical, foaming-at-the-mouth extremists, I had a very affable co-worker who was transgender; Suddenly these people who had been much-maligned online transpired to be very decent human beings in the flesh.

    The third is that I deleted all my social media accounts. Suddenly I was no longer privy to an endless stream of dubious half-baked conspiracy theories.

  • Have you know anyone that has gone further?


  • I have come into contact with such individuals in the past but I refuse to have any sustained contact with them.

  • Is there an end?


  • Yes but it would require certain grievances (especially those of the mostly white and male working class) to receive a fair hearing and for people with similar economic interests to wake up and realise that they're being turned against each by bad actors who profit from fomenting division in the lower classes.

    But by far the best way to end it is to simply get out of your echo chamber and start talking to people who are different to you because as soon as you realise that they're human then the cycle of dehumanisation will cease to have any power over you.

    Also, getting rid of social media would help. A lot. I would not shed a single tear if Facebook, Twitter, et al went bankrupt and disappeared forever.
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    Postby Kingdom of Intermaria » Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:41 pm

    [...]
    Also, getting rid of social media would help. A lot. I would not shed a single tear if Facebook, Twitter, et al went bankrupt and disappeared forever.

    Well, instead of getting rid of Social Media, probably non-biased and government fact-checkers would help.
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