10 Killed In Buffalo, New York Shooting

[Washington Resistance Army]

You don’t what civic nationalism is, do you?

I do, I'm not so focused on Race mostly on culture and values, I want the American people to come first before foreigners.

How exactly do you square this with your signature saying you're a white identitarian lol, you know what that means right?

[San Lumen]

Racialism inherently has to end in violence in a multiracial society, you can't escape that fact. /poltards/ might be screaming about the shooter in this case being a glowie but his actions are the only rationale end point if you care about race and believe in the great replacement and shit. If you don't want people to think you're a terrorist maybe you should ditch the edgy racial shit and try being a normal person.

I can't be a normal person. It's physically impossible and I would never want to. Anyway, violence is not necessary. I propose more autonomy and semi-independent territories for people to congregate to, if we have to live under the authority of the American police state, with our eventual independence as the long term goal, of which you know what I envision. That being said, myself and most others are capable of continuing on in this suboptimal paradigm without violence. We just need a more developed and independent culture to run parallel to it.

You don't know the meaning of police state. If your trying to argue against the of ideology this pure evil man in Buffalo your doing a horrible job. A white ethnostate is not the solution. If you don't want to live with people who don't look like you there are plenty of countries that are ethnically homogeneous you can move too.

[Rusozak]

You don’t what civic nationalism is, do you?

I do, I'm not so focused on Race mostly on culture and values, I want the American people to come first before foreigners.

Please don't tell me you think the psycho that did this was right.

[Vassenor]

You don’t what civic nationalism is, do you?

I do, I'm not so focused on Race mostly on culture and values, I want the American people to come first before foreigners.

Define "American people" then.

[Paddy O Fernature]

I have talked to people in these spaces they are clearly Straight White men that have been orchtrisized from society because of their race or how they look or some other factor. They are mad at the world clearly and need someone to blame A lot of them who do this are self-aware people like you after the fact will try to limit guns which makes them angrier.

Yeah, limiting guns isn't the way to stop this -- the fact of the matter is that this bastard walked away from the mass shooting alive after he was convinced not to kill himself. If that doesn't tell you what side the cops are on - considering left-wing protests receive rubber bullets and black petty criminals receive an extrajudicial execution - then nothing will. Ideally, what people need to learn from this is that minorities, working-class, and leftist people need to start arming themselves as well so that little creeps like Gendron will get a well-deserved bullet next time they try something like this.

Daily reminder that the guy was shot by at least two different people (one confirmed the dead retired officer now security guard and the other likely a responding officer) and that he only "walked away" because he was wearing appropriate BA that trumped standard carry standard by the police. We are lucky the guy surrendered when he did, as he could have done ALOT more damage before eventually being taken down by SRT had he chosen to do so.

Should we talk about how toxic masculinity leads to men being radicalised like this? The way the feelings of inadequacy it creates leads people into the arms of the conspiracists?

Vassenor of course chimes in with the sexist hate speech.

Did we expect anything different?

https://thehill.com/news/state-watch/3489680-buffalo-shooter-planned-to-shoot-more-black-people-after-attack-on-store-police/

Buffalo shooter planned to ‘shoot more Black people’ after attack on store: police

Doesn't sound like a mental health episode to me.

Glad to see you don't consider someone plotting to commit mass murder against others as a lapse in sound mental judgement Vass.

[Heloin]

I do, I'm not so focused on Race mostly on culture and values, I want the American people to come first before foreigners.

Please don't tell me you think the psycho that did this was right.

Let’s be totally honest with ourselves here. Every white nationalist thinks the Buffalo shooter was right, they just realise it’s bad optics to support mass murder right now.

[Ifreann]

Define "American people" then.

Citizens that uphold American Values unlike you.

lol
lmao

[Saiwania]

Are whites oppressed in Buffalo where they are only 41 percent of the population?

It's a more oppressive state of affairs for me personally, if 6 out of every 10 people I meet or see don't look like my in group. Even if technically speaking, there is no actual oppression.

I have the most problem with White skin becoming extinct or receding and it stands to reason that this outcome is more likely with a White minority which is shrinking. But significantly less likely where there continues to be a White majority.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Should we talk about how toxic masculinity leads to men being radicalised like this? The way the feelings of inadequacy it creates leads people into the arms of the conspiracists?

You'd look like a fool doing so because his manifesto is really open about how he got radicalized, and it wasn't "toxic masculinity". He had nothing to do during the Covid lockdowns, started using 4chan, got into reading identitarian and white nationalist shit, saw the video of the Christchurch Shooting and decided to emulate it. Perfect storm of a very stupid and impressionable person falling into a very violent ideology.

[Washington Resistance Army]

If you're going to ask me what "American Values" are, European Values not saying you have to convert just uphold the same moral framework.

What're European Values? Because looking at Europe nowadays it seems like that'd be supporting racial and sexual minority rights and having an expansive welfare state.

[Indomitable Friendship]

I can't be a normal person. It's physically impossible and I would never want to. Anyway, violence is not necessary. I propose more autonomy and semi-independent territories for people to congregate to, if we have to live under the authority of the American police state, with our eventual independence as the long term goal, of which you know what I envision. That being said, myself and most others are capable of continuing on in this suboptimal paradigm without violence. We just need a more developed and independent culture to run parallel to it.

You don't know the meaning of police state. If your trying to argue against the of ideology this pure evil man in Buffalo your doing a horrible job. A white ethnostate is not the solution. If you don't want to live with people who don't look like you there are plenty of countries that are ethnically homogeneous you can move too.

There you go again, invalidating my life. I do know what a police state is. I've lived under 1 my entire life. I'm the guy that wants to abolish law enforcement, prisons and the judicial system, remember? All of those ethnically homogeneous places have nothing going for them economically. What is a roboticist going to do in Albania? All those small countries are dying. I'm not that much of an idealist. There are practical things to consider. I wouldn't even mind multiracial America if it was less of a totalitarian hole because I could just self segregate, but the US is a totalitarian hole. Everywhere else is too, just even worse. Space colonization can't come soon enough and I might devote the rest of my life to it.

[Heloin]

If you're going to ask me what "American Values" are, European Values not saying you have to convert just uphold the same moral framework.

That is just a bunch of meaningless gibberish. If you can’t state what the American values you want to uphold are and why it justifies you being a white nationalist then you are just another run of the mill racist bigot. You are one anyways but at least say what contradiction of ideas made you think it makes sense to be racist.

[Ifreann]

If you're going to ask me what "American Values" are, European Values not saying you have to convert just uphold the same moral framework.

Your moral framework is telling us that foreigners are dangerous rapists while you act like European culture is embodied the various soldiers and warriors who actually would have gone around their corners of Europe raping people.

[Indomitable Friendship]

Please don't tell me you think the psycho that did this was right.

Let’s be totally honest with ourselves here. Every white nationalist thinks the Buffalo shooter was right, they just realise it’s bad optics to support mass murder right now.

No, absolutely not. I don't support any aspect of what he did and not primarily because of "optics". It was just fucked up.

[Fartsniffage]

You don't know the meaning of police state. If your trying to argue against the of ideology this pure evil man in Buffalo your doing a horrible job. A white ethnostate is not the solution. If you don't want to live with people who don't look like you there are plenty of countries that are ethnically homogeneous you can move too.

There you go again, invalidating my life. I do know what a police state is. I've lived under 1 my entire life. I'm the guy that wants to abolish law enforcement, prisons and the judicial system, remember? All of those ethnically homogeneous places have nothing going for them economically. What is a roboticist going to do in Albania? All those small countries are dying. I'm not that much of an idealist. There are practical things to consider. I wouldn't even mind multiracial America if it was less of a totalitarian hole because I could just self segregate, but the US is a totalitarian hole. Everywhere else is too, just even worse. Space colonization can't come soon enough and I might devote the rest of my life to it.

Communism got there before you.

[Heloin]

Let’s be totally honest with ourselves here. Every white nationalist thinks the Buffalo shooter was right, they just realise it’s bad optics to support mass murder right now.

No, absolutely not. I don't support any aspect of what he did and not primarily because of "optics". It was just fucked up.

Listen, if you openly supported the mass shooter then it’d only barely be the worst thing you’ve admitted to on this site.

[San Lumen]

Are whites oppressed in Buffalo where they are only 41 percent of the population?

It's a more oppressive state of affairs for me personally, if 6 out of every 10 people I meet or see don't look like my in group. Even if technically speaking, there is no actual oppression.

I have the most problem with White skin becoming extinct or receding and it stands to reason that this outcome is more likely with a White minority which is shrinking. But significantly less likely where there continues to be a White majority.

How is it oppressive if people don't look like you? No one is making you move to a place like Buffalo.

I still fail to understand why one race should take priority over any other. being white doesn't make you better than anyone else.

[San Lumen]

You don't know the meaning of police state. If your trying to argue against the of ideology this pure evil man in Buffalo your doing a horrible job. A white ethnostate is not the solution. If you don't want to live with people who don't look like you there are plenty of countries that are ethnically homogeneous you can move too.

There you go again, invalidating my life. I do know what a police state is. I've lived under 1 my entire life. I'm the guy that wants to abolish law enforcement, prisons and the judicial system, remember? All of those ethnically homogeneous places have nothing going for them economically. What is a roboticist going to do in Albania? All those small countries are dying. I'm not that much of an idealist. There are practical things to consider. I wouldn't even mind multiracial America if it was less of a totalitarian hole because I could just self segregate, but the US is a totalitarian hole. Everywhere else is too, just even worse. Space colonization can't come soon enough and I might devote the rest of my life to it.

No you have not. I know people who came from totalitarian countries and to call the US one is an insult to them.

Do you know anything about Serbia or Slovenia? I bet the answer is no and your just making another generalization.

[Indomitable Friendship]

No, absolutely not. I don't support any aspect of what he did and not primarily because of "optics". It was just fucked up.

Listen, if you openly supported the mass shooter then it’d only barely be the worst thing you’ve admitted to on this site.

I don't support the shooter. Period. Stop with this bullshit.

[Rusozak]

Let’s be totally honest with ourselves here. Every white nationalist thinks the Buffalo shooter was right, they just realise it’s bad optics to support mass murder right now.

Definition of white nationalist
: one of a group of militant white people who espouse white supremacy (see WHITE SUPREMACY sense 1) and advocate enforced racial segregation
https://www.merriam-webster.com/diction ... ationalist

Identitarian
relating to or characteristic of a politics in which the political interests of a particular racial, ethnic or national group are given priority
https://www.macmillandictionary.com/us/ ... entitarian
lierally every group has one

That doesn't exactly explain your stance on the shooting.

[Heloin]

Let’s be totally honest with ourselves here. Every white nationalist thinks the Buffalo shooter was right, they just realise it’s bad optics to support mass murder right now.

Definition of white nationalist
: one of a group of militant white people who espouse white supremacy (see WHITE SUPREMACY sense 1) and advocate enforced racial segregation
https://www.merriam-webster.com/diction ... ationalist

Identitarian
relating to or characteristic of a politics in which the political interests of a particular racial, ethnic or national group are given priority
https://www.macmillandictionary.com/us/ ... entitarian
lierally every group has one

The classic lie that your not a supremacist. Used by racists the world over. It’s not original.

[Saiwania]

If you don't want to live with people who don't look like you there are plenty of countries that are ethnically homogeneous you can move too.

This is increasingly less true because of what you support and others who back liberal politics. As I pointed out, this issue is zero sum, in that- what what I want infringes on what you'd want and vice versa. The entire majority white world is practically under siege or pressures to have unfettered immigration from non-white countries because nearly all of the White countries happen to have high living standards or be economically developed relatively speaking.

[Hukhalia]

Listen, if you openly supported the mass shooter then it’d only barely be the worst thing you’ve admitted to on this site.

I don't support the shooter. Period. Stop with this bullshit.

that doesn't really matter, the culture of racial supremacy you necessarily empower through your rhetoric is what inspired this violence. the blood is on your hands.

[San Lumen]

https://thehill.com/news/state-watch/34 ... -shooting/

Manager says suspect was asked to leave Buffalo supermarket one day before shooting

[The Reformed American Republic]

It's a disgusting book with a disgusting premise.

Gun banning already happened in Australia and there was no civil war. I strongly doubt it would happen and the people that parrot the desire for it are wannabe badasses and individuals who don't want to make something of themselves. If you really want to be realistic, nationalists would lose an American civil war. They have no way of funding their battle, are relatively unpopular and the big cherry on top that no one addresses: another American Civil War would bring massive international intervention and you would be fighting far more than the US government. It's an absurd proposition if you have a lick of common sense.

The protagonists are not nationalists in the traditional sense of American politics, but rather hardcore Nazis who practically destroyed the world to ensure anyone who did not meat their definition of human was killed off.