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Postby Maricarland » Thu Jan 06, 2022 9:54 pm

I came across this post on the antiwork sub-reddit, and thought it would be a good idea to repost it here. It is about someone's experience in the police academy, and why police are corrupt.

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The Police Will Never Change In America. My experience in police academy.

Throwaway for obvious reasons. If you feel If i'm just bitter due to my dismissal please call me out on it as I need a wake up call.

Over the fall semester I was a police recruit at a Community Colleges Police Academy in a midwestern liberal city. I have always wanted to be a police officer, and I felt like I could help kickstart a change of new wave cops. I am passionate about community oriented policing, making connections with the youth in policing, and changing lives on a individual level. I knew police academy would be mentally and physically challenging, but boy oh boy does policing need to change.

Instructors taught us to view citizens as enemy combatants, and told us we needed a warrior mindest and that we were going into battle everyday. It felt like i was joining a cult. Instructors told us supporting our fellow police officers were more important than serving citizens. Instructors told us that we were joining a big bad gang of police officers and that protecting the thin blue line was sacred. Instructors told us George Floyd wasn't a problem and was just one bad officer. I tried to push back on some of these ideas and posed to an instructor that 4 other officers watched chauvin pin floyd to the ground and did nothing, and perhaps they did nothing because they were trained in academy to never speak agaisnt a senior officer. I was told to "shut my fucking face, and that i had no idea what i was talking about.

Sadly, Instructors on several occasions, and most shockingly in the first week asked every person who supported Black Lives Matter to raise their hands. I and about a third of the class did. They told us that we should seriously consider not being police officers if we supported anti cop organizations. They told us BLM was a terrible organization and to get out if we supported them. Instructors repeatedly made anti lgbt comments and transphobic comments.

Admittedly I was the most progressive and put a target on my back for challenging instructor viewpoints. This got me disciplined, yelled at, and made me not want to be a cop. We had very little training on de-escalation and community policing. We had no diversity or ethics training.

Despite all this I made it to the final day. I thought if I could just get through this I could get hired and make a difference in the community as a cop and not be subject to academy paramilitary crap. The police academy dismissed me on the final day because I failed a PT test that I had passed multiple times easily in the academy leading up to this day. I asked why I failed and they said my push up form was bad and they were being more strict know it was the final. I responded saying if you counted my pushups in the entrance and midterm tests than they should count now. I was dismissed on the final day of police academy and have to take a whole academy over again. I have no plan to retake the whole academy and I feel like quality police officers are dismissed because they dont fit the instructors cookie cutter image of a warrior police officer and the instructors can get rid of them with saying their form doesn't count on a subjective sit up or push up test. I was beyond tears and bitterly disappointed. Maybe policing is just that fucked in america.



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And here is my response to them, though I was a little tired so I may have been rambling a little bit

The problem is that policing will always involve giving some group of people (the police officers) power over another group of people (the citizens), and that power forms inherently unequal castes and attracts authoritarian personalities.

The very function of police is not to protect and serve the community, that is simply how they dress it up. The function of the police (and the military) are to serve as the force behind the law, the state's monopoly on legitimate violence is exercised through the police, and it is exercised to protect the power of the state and private property (private property, such as housing being withheld from the people unless the landlord gets rent from the people who live there, or when workers must do as the employer says without making their own decisions, or when people are denied access to farmland to grow their own food, and so on... only exists because the small group of people who hold papers that say they own that private property have the police and military to enforce their claim over the wider population).

When they say protect and serve, they mean protect and serve the state and the capitalist owner/investor/hoarder/employer class. They only enforce the law in so far as they need to in order to maintain the power of the state, which is why you often see powerful elites get away with breaking the law (unless it was a particularly egregious case and they needed to sacrifice an elite to continue to maintain an image of legitimacy). This is also why when native American women go missing, the police say there is nothing they can do, but when a factory owner reports a break-in at their factory they can find the person in matter of days or even hours. To maintain the power of the state, they must maintain the social order that marginalizes whoever is marginalized in any given society, be they marginalized because of race, sex, sexual orientation, gender, gender presentation, mental illness, disability, neurodiversity, religion or lack thereof, language, class, lifestyle, occupation, and so on... Police and prison will always target the marginalized, they may do so on slightly better ways in some societies, but ultimately if they do not target the marginalized in some way they will fail and it will be noticed by politicians and investors and so on... who have the political influence to replace the existing institution with one more to their liking, which whether they are consciously aware of it or not will target the marginalized.

The police and prison system is incapable of actually helping people, because people who deviate from social expectations (like the LGBTQIA+, or the neurodivergent, or the disabled more generally, and so on...), or work expectations, or ethical expectations (such as people who have done actual harm to others) are not easily controllable or manageable, their existence threatens the power structure of the state and the capitalist, unless they can be made to serve those power structures in some way or otherwise co-opted. These people are not seen as human beings in many cases by the police and prison system. The police are not interested in learning what caused someone to commit sexual crimes, or violent crimes, or otherwise serious crimes, they are not interested in societal changes that could prevent these crimes and help people who are more predisposed to commit these crimes live healthy and crime-free lives, they are not interested in the severity of a crime or if it was victimless or not, they are not interested in the needs of the victims or the offenders or the community at large after harm has been done, they are not interested in accountability, or rehabilitation, or restoration, or transformation, or healing, or freedom, or a society free of crime (or at least with minimal levels of crime).

We must abolish the police and prison. Societies have lived without police and prison before. Some Native American societies had a system where the whole community must take responsibility for a crime committed against members of a different village, leading them to be accountable for each other and to help and guide each other to not commit such offenses, and if an offense did occur there would be discussion about what can be done for, or given to the victims to prevent their wrath. This is of course just one example. There are many others, and I am sure we can invent new forms of law enforcement and ways of preventing, responding to, and addressing harm. Human are very creative and have lived in literally thousands of different social structures, but over the last couple centuries, especially under capitalism, our political and economic imaginations have stagnated, and it will take time to build back our collective political imaginations - but police and prisons do not make us safer, they make us less safe, and we would be better off getting rid of them regardless if we have an immediate replacement ready or not (we cannot start healing our society till we stop the bleeding).
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Virginia Beach cops used forged DNA documents to get confessions

The Virginia Beach Police Department used forged documents with fake DNA evidence in interrogations in order to get confessions on at least five occasions, the state Attorney General Mark Herring said.

Herring's Office of Civil Rights concluded an investigation last April that found that the police department was forging documents pretending to be from the Virginia Department of Forensic Science. The department used these forged documents on at least five occasions between March 2016 and February 2020, according to the investigation.

"This was an extremely troubling and potentially unconstitutional tactic that abused the name of the Commonwealth to try to coerce confessions," Herring said in a statement on Wednesday.

"It also abused the good name and reputation of the Commonwealth's hard-working forensic scientists and professionals who work hard to provide accurate, solid evidence in support of our law enforcement agencies. While I appreciate that Virginia Beach Police put an end to this practice and cooperated with our investigation, this is clearly a tactic that should never have been used," he said.

The Virginia Beach Police Department did not immediately respond to a request for comment, but in a statement to The Washington Post, the department said that what happened, "though legal, was not in the spirit of what the community expects."

The investigation into the Virginia Beach Police Department began when a request was made to the forensic department to provide a copy of one of the forged documents, but DFS never created or knew about the document in the first place.

Investigators from Herring's office found that the police department was using the forged documents as "supposed evidence" to try to get confessions, cooperation and convictions. The police department would lie and say the suspect's DNA was connected with the crime and provide that in the document, which had forged letterhead and contact information, according to the investigation.

On two occasions, the investigation found, the police department included a signature from a made-up employee at DFS. In one case, the forged document was presented in court as evidence.

On Tuesday, the Virginia Beach City Council agreed to new reforms to stop the practice from continuing and to alter policy, but those reforms are only in effect for at least two years.
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Postby Kazak Yeli » Fri Jan 14, 2022 4:52 pm

Maricarland wrote:I came across this post on the antiwork sub-reddit, and thought it would be a good idea to repost it here. It is about someone's experience in the police academy, and why police are corrupt.

I don't believe that any of that actually happened.

It seems that the guy just wrote down as many things as possible that he knew would anger the type of people who frequent the "anti-work" subforum, and posted it.

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:03 am

Kazak Yeli wrote:
Maricarland wrote:I came across this post on the antiwork sub-reddit, and thought it would be a good idea to repost it here. It is about someone's experience in the police academy, and why police are corrupt.

I don't believe that any of that actually happened.

It seems that the guy just wrote down as many things as possible that he knew would anger the type of people who frequent the "anti-work" subforum, and posted it.


“I don’t believe that can be true” doesn’t make something untrue.

Like we learned a few years ago that a lot of states don’t train their officers in non-violent deescalation because they think officers don’t need to use it.

And this expose about Portland cops being given a training presentation that jokes about beating up protestors? That’s from yesterday.
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Postby American Legionaries » Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:23 am

Kazak Yeli wrote:
Maricarland wrote:I came across this post on the antiwork sub-reddit, and thought it would be a good idea to repost it here. It is about someone's experience in the police academy, and why police are corrupt.

I don't believe that any of that actually happened.

It seems that the guy just wrote down as many things as possible that he knew would anger the type of people who frequent the "anti-work" subforum, and posted it.


It definitely gives off that feel doesn't it? I doubt any of it's true.

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Postby Kazak Yeli » Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:42 am

American Legionaries wrote:It definitely gives off that feel doesn't it? I doubt any of it's true.

It's all incredibly hard to believe, but the two parts that made me laugh were;

1) "Instructors repeatedly made anti lgbt comments and transphobic comments"

2) "Instructors told us that we were joining a big bad gang of police officers and that protecting the thin blue line was sacred"

It didn't happen. None of it did, and I can't understand how some people could actually believe it. He just said whatever he had to say to get the "anti-work" crowd to rail against the cops even more than they would have any way.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:45 am

Kazak Yeli wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:It definitely gives off that feel doesn't it? I doubt any of it's true.

It's all incredibly hard to believe, but the two parts that made me laugh were;

1) "Instructors repeatedly made anti lgbt comments and transphobic comments"

2) "Instructors told us that we were joining a big bad gang of police officers and that protecting the thin blue line was sacred"

It didn't happen. None of it did, and I can't understand how some people could actually believe it. He just said whatever he had to say to get the "anti-work" crowd to rail against the cops even more than they would have any way.


Why the doubt ? We know for a fact that courses like nr 2, where citizens were described as targets to be neutralised, are still given on a regular basis.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:57 am

Kazak Yeli wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:It definitely gives off that feel doesn't it? I doubt any of it's true.

It's all incredibly hard to believe, but the two parts that made me laugh were;

1) "Instructors repeatedly made anti lgbt comments and transphobic comments"

2) "Instructors told us that we were joining a big bad gang of police officers and that protecting the thin blue line was sacred"

It didn't happen. None of it did, and I can't understand how some people could actually believe it. He just said whatever he had to say to get the "anti-work" crowd to rail against the cops even more than they would have any way.


So you're still on "I don't believe this would happen so none of it is true"?
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Postby Kazak Yeli » Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:02 am

Vassenor wrote:
Kazak Yeli wrote:It's all incredibly hard to believe, but the two parts that made me laugh were;

1) "Instructors repeatedly made anti lgbt comments and transphobic comments"

2) "Instructors told us that we were joining a big bad gang of police officers and that protecting the thin blue line was sacred"

It didn't happen. None of it did, and I can't understand how some people could actually believe it. He just said whatever he had to say to get the "anti-work" crowd to rail against the cops even more than they would have any way.


So you're still on "I don't believe this would happen so none of it is true"?

Yeah, exactly. It's quite obvious that none of it actually happened.

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:15 am

Kazak Yeli wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So you're still on "I don't believe this would happen so none of it is true"?

Yeah, exactly. It's quite obvious that none of it actually happened.


So I take it you think the other things I linked didn't happen either because they don't fit what you think police training is like?
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Postby Galloism » Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:33 am

American Legionaries wrote:
Kazak Yeli wrote:I don't believe that any of that actually happened.

It seems that the guy just wrote down as many things as possible that he knew would anger the type of people who frequent the "anti-work" subforum, and posted it.


It definitely gives off that feel doesn't it? I doubt any of it's true.

Having personally been to a police academy, I’m throwing a giant [X] to doubt on it.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Jan 15, 2022 8:39 am

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It definitely gives off that feel doesn't it? I doubt any of it's true.

Having personally been to a police academy, I’m throwing a giant [X] to doubt on it.

I'd love to see a transcript of what the instructor actually said, because it sounds to me like it's being taken out of context and twisted into what that person wants it to say.

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Postby American Legionaries » Sat Jan 15, 2022 12:16 pm

Galloism wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
It definitely gives off that feel doesn't it? I doubt any of it's true.

Having personally been to a police academy, I’m throwing a giant [X] to doubt on it.


I went to a police academy in a place that could be described as neither liberal, nor a city. And not a single person there spoke like a caricature of the gestapo.

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Postby Kalaron » Sat Jan 15, 2022 1:45 pm

Kazak Yeli wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:It definitely gives off that feel doesn't it? I doubt any of it's true.

It's all incredibly hard to believe, but the two parts that made me laugh were;

1) "Instructors repeatedly made anti lgbt comments and transphobic comments"

2) "Instructors told us that we were joining a big bad gang of police officers and that protecting the thin blue line was sacred"

It didn't happen. None of it did, and I can't understand how some people could actually believe it. He just said whatever he had to say to get the "anti-work" crowd to rail against the cops even more than they would have any way.

For the former, meh. Maybe they took some jokes too seriously?

For the latter, I definitely doubt they said it the way they did, if it happened at all. That said, I could see someone -albeit, no one I think would enter a police academy?- taking some statements and distorting them to look like that.. I had a retired Detective (25+ years on the service) teacher once, and the way she summed up the Thin Blue Line is that the Officers in your precinct are essentially your family, with essentially the same sacred bond. It wasn't quite "protect the Gang from those no good beatniks" so much as "Civilians are basically clueless about the circumstances of your job, totally clueless about the stresses and damages you will suffer as an officer, and will push for political policies that hurt cops -and society- based on that ignorance (Like wanting cops to be punished for complaints, which sounds good to someone who hasn't had twenty reports filed accusing them of brutality despite them only using equal force against a suspect [something like 78% of suspects who engaged in a struggle with Officers allege that the Officers used too much force in subduing them, no I can't find the paper I read that part from now.])".
That said, she was also very forceful that you should *always* tell the truth of what happens in an investigation, pull cops who seem erratic or like they're getting overly forceful, stop them from making mistakes ect....

Real talk, I think that it's impossible for people to rationally discuss this stuff anymore, on average, because people would rather construe opposing positions to be 100% evil.
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Postby Fahran » Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:30 pm

Galloism wrote:Having personally been to a police academy, I’m throwing a giant [X] to doubt on it.

Gonna go with the assessment given by someone we know went through police academy on this one.
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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:27 am

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So I take it you think the other things I linked didn't happen either because they don't fit what you think police training is like?

Are you more referring to the link that prove police departments in some cases prioritize the safety of officers to the people trying to kill them or the link that proves at least one group of police officers saw a joke once?
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The training
Initial findings from a series city-commissioned reports released over the past year seem to only bolster complaints from former cadets like Spisak and spotlight the kind of violent, warrior-cop culture that pervades much of policing. One group of reports released last summer called APD’s paramilitary approach to training police antiquated, saying it reinforces an us-versus-them mentality toward the larger public. Another report on racial and other inequities in police training released just before the New Year’s holiday warned of a “culture of violence” at the academy. According to that report, “many of the academy’s trainers rely overwhelmingly on ‘violent,’ ‘brutal,’ ‘traumatizing’ practices designed to ‘manufacture soldiers’ rather than produce community-driven law enforcement professionals adept at de-escalation.”

That same report also says that APD’s training division lists only one Black employee out of 57 and that Black cadets in the academy are underrepresented when compared to the population of Austin, less likely than their peers to graduate, and more likely to be injured during APD’s training academy than any other race. Another city-commissioned report released last month found that training videos perpetuated harmful racial stereotypes; nearly half the people shown in the videos interacting with and subjected to violence by officers were Black.

In between the grueling, bootcamp-style drills, Spisak says she was often disturbed by the way instructors talked about police work. One trainer said that people who fight or resist an officer “earned a legal ass whooping.” Others belittled sex workers and people experiencing homelessness. “At one point we were writing essays about why we wanted to be cops, and one of the instructors said, ‘If you tell me that it’s because you want to help people, I’m going to punch you in the face,’” Spisak recalls. “I was devastated, I literally came home and cried that night. That’s exactly why I wanted to be there, why any police officer should be there.”


The practice
Signs have long pointed to an insular, biased, and violent culture inside APD. In 2019, an assistant chief abruptly resigned amid allegations he used racial slurs against Black officers, a Black assistant chief, and a Black city council member. A subsequent investigation released in 2020 found that “racist and sexist name-calling and use of derogatory terms associated with race and sex persists” inside APD, and that top brass often knew about or even participated in such behavior; as a result, according to the investigation, officers who want to improve their workplace fear speaking out due to “almost certain retaliation.” Data reported by the city also shows that Austin police continue to disproportionately stop, search, and arrest Black drivers.

APD officers continue to demonstrate how quickly police can resort to violence. On April 24, 2020, Mike Ramos had his hands up, shouting that he was unarmed, but police fired at him anyway, then killed him when he tried to escape. Later that summer, as people shouted Ramos’ name during protests that erupted across the city, officers fired so-called less-lethal weapons at crowds of unarmed demonstrators, sending several to the hospital. A 16-year-old suffered brain damage after police shot him in the head with a “bean bag round,” essentially a sack of lead pellets fired from a 12-gauge shotgun. Physicians for Human Rights called Austin a hotspot for such injuries during the nationwide uprising following George Floyd’s death.

“I don’t think you can point to one training video and say it caused one specific incident,” says Austin council member Greg Casar, who also maintains that cadet classes should remain on hold until training has been reformed. “But when you see that there’s a problem with how the community’s portrayed in these training videos, when you hear all these concerns from former cadets, when you see so many of the needless injuries and violence against citizens at the protests, it shows a pattern.”


US police training is a complete joke, and not just because many academies are teaching the completely wrong thing, including the "Killology" bullshit.
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Until Earl McGhee was hired in 2018, Dodge County, Wisconsin, had never had a Black sheriff’s deputy, so when the county sent him to a police academy at a local technical college, McGhee wasn’t all that surprised to be the only Black cadet in the class.

But a few weeks into the course, McGhee was stunned when the instructor used the N-word during a lecture. “Out of nowhere he looks me in the eyes and points his index finger directly at me” while uttering the slur, McGhee wrote in a statement to the school, the Madison Area Technical College, shortly after the Jan. 25, 2019, incident. “The entire class was looking at me.”

The instructor later acknowledged during a school investigation that he used a variety of racist and sexist epithets in class, during discussions about some of the people and situations they may encounter on the job.

For many people, the term police academy conjures up images of military-style boot camps run by city police departments, where cadets stay in dorms and top brass are constantly monitoring the training. But the reality is that the bulk of America’s nearly 18,000 police departments rely on hundreds of private universities and community and technical colleges to provide basic law-enforcement training for people who want to become police officers.

Many programs at community and technical colleges are taught by retired cops who use a military-style teaching method that incorporates war stories from police work and warns recruits that they will face a choice on the streets: kill or be killed. That differs from the type of training that criminal-justice experts have called for, which emphasizes de-escalating confrontations, working with and listening to community members and teaching cadets to recognize signs of mental illness.

In some states, it’s possible to join a police department and go out on patrol, armed with a gun and a badge, before finishing at a police academy or even enrolling in one. That’s the case in Arkansas, where in 2012 Nancy Cummings, who had not yet attended basic training, fatally shot Carleton Wallace in the back while attempting to handcuff him in the town of Alexander. Cummings, who had brought her daughter along on patrol that day, said she could not remember pulling the trigger. (A federal jury later cleared her of liability.) This year, a South Carolina police officer was shot and killed by a suspect when he tried to make a traffic stop; the officer, who was on patrol by himself, was scheduled to start his basic law-enforcement training eight days later.

A cadet who attended a North Carolina technical college said one of his instructors celebrated the 2016 election of Donald Trump by saying it would enable officers to “police people in the projects the way they should be policed.” Other instructors screamed obscenities at students, he said, often focusing hazing on women and gay and lesbian cadets. A lawsuit filed in Maryland last year alleged that two cadets suffered brain injuries while in a boxing class taught by an instructor at a community-college academy who had not received any updated training or certification since leaving the Maryland State Police in 1989.


And this goes to the heart of the anecdote:
The same budget constraints that community colleges routinely face also decrease the chances they can hire the best full-time instructors who are up-to-date on modern police training. Academies run by cities can have their top officers work as instructors, while at community colleges, “they get who they can get, and maybe they’re good, maybe they’re not,” says Norman Conti, a professor of sociology at Duquesne University who studies police training.

https://time.com/5901726/police-training-academies/

Not saying that the anecdote about the guy going to a Community College Police Academy program definitely happened, but it's plausible.
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Postby Gravlen » Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:59 pm

Kowani wrote:Virginia Beach cops used forged DNA documents to get confessions

The Virginia Beach Police Department used forged documents with fake DNA evidence in interrogations in order to get confessions on at least five occasions, the state Attorney General Mark Herring said.

Herring's Office of Civil Rights concluded an investigation last April that found that the police department was forging documents pretending to be from the Virginia Department of Forensic Science. The department used these forged documents on at least five occasions between March 2016 and February 2020, according to the investigation.

"This was an extremely troubling and potentially unconstitutional tactic that abused the name of the Commonwealth to try to coerce confessions," Herring said in a statement on Wednesday.

"It also abused the good name and reputation of the Commonwealth's hard-working forensic scientists and professionals who work hard to provide accurate, solid evidence in support of our law enforcement agencies. While I appreciate that Virginia Beach Police put an end to this practice and cooperated with our investigation, this is clearly a tactic that should never have been used," he said.

The Virginia Beach Police Department did not immediately respond to a request for comment, but in a statement to The Washington Post, the department said that what happened, "though legal, was not in the spirit of what the community expects."

The investigation into the Virginia Beach Police Department began when a request was made to the forensic department to provide a copy of one of the forged documents, but DFS never created or knew about the document in the first place.

Investigators from Herring's office found that the police department was using the forged documents as "supposed evidence" to try to get confessions, cooperation and convictions. The police department would lie and say the suspect's DNA was connected with the crime and provide that in the document, which had forged letterhead and contact information, according to the investigation.

On two occasions, the investigation found, the police department included a signature from a made-up employee at DFS. In one case, the forged document was presented in court as evidence.

On Tuesday, the Virginia Beach City Council agreed to new reforms to stop the practice from continuing and to alter policy, but those reforms are only in effect for at least two years.

Good timing, yesterday's decision to disband the Virginia Beach Conviction Integrity Unit. Nothing to see here, after all...
EnragedMaldivians wrote:That's preposterous. Gravlens's not a white nationalist; Gravlen's a penguin.

Unio de Sovetaj Socialismaj Respublikoj wrote:There is no use arguing the definition of murder with someone who has a picture of a penguin with a chainsaw as their nations flag.

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