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Albrenia
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Postby Albrenia » Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:32 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:As a Trekker since childhood, I just can never take QAnon seriously because calling someone 'Q' always makes me think of someone else.

It also doesn't help that character is essentially an Internet troll with god powers.


That is the most fun reason to not take them seriously, I agree. That they make so many wrong predictions that Harold Camping would think they need to tone it down is another good reason.

Edited to add: Although I'd love to see Trump go to prison for his crimes, I doubt he will. I'd settle for his fat ass and the inane political philosophy he leads vanishing from politics forever though, that'd be nice.
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Postby Vystercia-Nasucrea » Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:34 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:As a Trekker since childhood, I just can never take QAnon seriously because calling someone 'Q' always makes me think of someone else.

It also doesn't help that character is essentially an Internet troll with god powers.


That is the most fun reason to not take them seriously, I agree. That they make so many wrong predictions that Harold Camping would think they need to tone it down is another good reason.


This reminds me of the Soviet double agent Max, who convinced the Nazis that he served them even while misinforming them from the Kremlin.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:41 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
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Q doesn’t care about America or any country. Q just wants to create chaos and destruction. If they really cared about America and the world they would expose the Republicans and other parties around the world for what they are.


Q isn't even a real person.

The docu-series Down the Rabbit Hole made a pretty good case that it's those two d-holes that bought 8chan.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:43 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:As a Trekker since childhood, I just can never take QAnon seriously because calling someone 'Q' always makes me think of someone else.

It also doesn't help that character is essentially an Internet troll with god powers.


That is the most fun reason to not take them seriously, I agree. That they make so many wrong predictions that Harold Camping would think they need to tone it down is another good reason.

Edited to add: Although I'd love to see Trump go to prison for his crimes, I doubt he will. I'd settle for his fat ass and the inane political philosophy he leads vanishing from politics forever though, that'd be nice.

Some fun in-jokes amongst the Trek community, too.

The Capital Riot seemed to be a breaking point for many people in terms of supporting Trump, but it also seemed to embolden others.
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Postby Neoliberal Consensus » Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:47 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:As a Trekker since childhood, I just can never take QAnon seriously because calling someone 'Q' always makes me think of someone else.

It also doesn't help that character is essentially an Internet troll with god powers.



I too also take political ques from Star Trek, but I think Marvel movies are socially important movies and let us know that Captain America was opposed to Nazis.
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Postby Neoliberal Consensus » Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:48 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Q isn't even a real person.

The docu-series Down the Rabbit Hole made a pretty good case that it's those two d-holes that bought 8chan.


It is Russian misinformation designed to overthrow Our Democracy.
#Resistance #DemocracyDiesInDarkness.

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Postby Vystercia-Nasucrea » Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:48 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
That is the most fun reason to not take them seriously, I agree. That they make so many wrong predictions that Harold Camping would think they need to tone it down is another good reason.

Edited to add: Although I'd love to see Trump go to prison for his crimes, I doubt he will. I'd settle for his fat ass and the inane political philosophy he leads vanishing from politics forever though, that'd be nice.

Some fun in-jokes amongst the Trek community, too.

The Capital Riot seemed to be a breaking point for many people in terms of supporting Trump, but it also seemed to embolden others.


He's a sniveling coward who incited others to commit high treason while cowering safely in the White House. What a pathetic buffoon! If I were Mike Pence, I would sever all ties and work to bring him down, even at the cost of the GOP's political survival. But then, I'm not Mike Pence. I could never imagine being so co-dependent upon a spouse.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:48 pm

Neoliberal Consensus wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:As a Trekker since childhood, I just can never take QAnon seriously because calling someone 'Q' always makes me think of someone else.

It also doesn't help that character is essentially an Internet troll with god powers.



I too also take political ques from Star Trek, but I think Marvel movies are socially important movies and let us know that Captain America was opposed to Nazis.

It was a joke
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Opinions and Puppets
If you want a mental image of me: straight(?) white male.

I try to be objective, but I do have some biases.

I don't think the political compass is
fully accurate, but here are my results:

X-Axis: -5.38
Y-Axis: -2.62

Also, I'm diagnosed as a high-functioning autistic.
Stellar Colonies is a loose confederacy comprised from most of the human-settled parts of the galaxy.

Ida Station is the only Confederate member state permitted to join the WA.

Add 1200 years for the date I use.

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Postby Neoliberal Consensus » Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:49 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:
Neoliberal Consensus wrote:

I too also take political ques from Star Trek, but I think Marvel movies are socially important movies and let us know that Captain America was opposed to Nazis.

It was a joke


People tell me I have a great sense of humor
#Resistance #DemocracyDiesInDarkness.

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Postby Ispravlennaja Tsekovija » Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:50 pm

Neoliberal Consensus wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:The docu-series Down the Rabbit Hole made a pretty good case that it's those two d-holes that bought 8chan.


It is Russian misinformation designed to overthrow Our Democracy.

not even pro neolib but this is the dumbest concept for a troll account i've seen in a while and you're not clever for doing this
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:52 pm

Ispravlennaja Tsekovija wrote:
Neoliberal Consensus wrote:
It is Russian misinformation designed to overthrow Our Democracy.

not even pro neolib but this is the dumbest concept for a troll account i've seen in a while and you're not clever for doing this

pot meet kettle.
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Postby Vystercia-Nasucrea » Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:53 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Ispravlennaja Tsekovija wrote:not even pro neolib but this is the dumbest concept for a troll account i've seen in a while and you're not clever for doing this

pot meet kettle.


Exactly. Neoliberals are trash, rad fems are trash, and trolls are trash, too. Social democracy for the win!
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Postby Neoliberal Consensus » Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:54 pm

Ispravlennaja Tsekovija wrote:
Neoliberal Consensus wrote:
It is Russian misinformation designed to overthrow Our Democracy.

not even pro neolib but this is the dumbest concept for a troll account i've seen in a while and you're not clever for doing this


Your white supremacist bro-culture bullying is noted. Where do you work? You should be fired for this.
#Resistance #DemocracyDiesInDarkness.

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Postby Vystercia-Nasucrea » Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:56 pm

Neoliberal Consensus wrote:
Ispravlennaja Tsekovija wrote:not even pro neolib but this is the dumbest concept for a troll account i've seen in a while and you're not clever for doing this


Your white supremacist bro-culture bullying is noted. Where do you work? You should be fired for this.


Maybe lay off the Merlot and barbiturates for a while, ma'am.
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Postby Neoliberal Consensus » Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:58 pm

Vystercia-Nasucrea wrote:
Neoliberal Consensus wrote:
Your white supremacist bro-culture bullying is noted. Where do you work? You should be fired for this.


Maybe lay off the Merlot and barbiturates for a while, ma'am.


Don't kink shame. Liberal wine aunts are heroes. They're not Karens if they like corporate liberalism.

Jokes aside, criticisms of our establishment have worrying hints of antisemitism and populist movements among the lower classes should be ignored. If they can't compete in a globalized society, then too bad.
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Postby Hispida » Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:59 pm

Vystercia-Nasucrea wrote:
Neoliberal Consensus wrote:
Your white supremacist bro-culture bullying is noted. Where do you work? You should be fired for this.


Maybe lay off the Merlot and barbiturates for a while, ma'am.

just put 'em on a foe list. not that hard
if you're not outraged, why not?
i now have a basic overview factbook
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Postby Vystercia-Nasucrea » Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:01 pm

Neoliberal Consensus wrote:
Vystercia-Nasucrea wrote:
Maybe lay off the Merlot and barbiturates for a while, ma'am.


Don't kink shame. Liberal wine aunts are heroes. They're not Karens if they like corporate liberalism.

Jokes aside, criticisms of our establishment have worrying hints of antisemitism and populist movements among the lower classes should be ignored. If they can't compete in a globalized society, then too bad.


The same establishment that drug us into a Drug War at great human cost and also four major wars in the Middle East, not to mention increasing neo-McCarthyism over RussiaGate (increasingly being exposed as a hoax)?
That establishment, the one that was hideously wrong about every single issue of consequence in the past century. Yeah, I'm very worried about questioning their incompetence and corruption.
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Postby Picairn » Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:02 pm

Seeing this many accounts with lava hot takes lately reminds me of Twitter. Is NSG being Twitterified?
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:02 pm

Picairn wrote:Seeing this many accounts with lava hot takes lately reminds me of Twitter. Is NSG being Twitterified?

Maybe we have an NS Winter in addition to an NS Summer.
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Opinions and Puppets
If you want a mental image of me: straight(?) white male.

I try to be objective, but I do have some biases.

I don't think the political compass is
fully accurate, but here are my results:

X-Axis: -5.38
Y-Axis: -2.62

Also, I'm diagnosed as a high-functioning autistic.
Stellar Colonies is a loose confederacy comprised from most of the human-settled parts of the galaxy.

Ida Station is the only Confederate member state permitted to join the WA.

Add 1200 years for the date I use.

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Postby Vystercia-Nasucrea » Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:04 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:
Picairn wrote:Seeing this many accounts with lava hot takes lately reminds me of Twitter. Is NSG being Twitterified?

Maybe we have an NS Winter in addition to an NS Summer.


Winter is here at last! Still waiting on Jesus, though. :rofl:
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Postby Neoliberal Consensus » Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:06 pm

Vystercia-Nasucrea wrote:
Neoliberal Consensus wrote:
Don't kink shame. Liberal wine aunts are heroes. They're not Karens if they like corporate liberalism.

Jokes aside, criticisms of our establishment have worrying hints of antisemitism and populist movements among the lower classes should be ignored. If they can't compete in a globalized society, then too bad.


The same establishment that drug us into a Drug War at great human cost and also four major wars in the Middle East, not to mention increasing neo-McCarthyism over RussiaGate (increasingly being exposed as a hoax)?
That establishment, the one that was hideously wrong about every single issue of consequence in the past century. Yeah, I'm very worried about questioning their incompetence and corruption.


Our wars in the Middle East were justified and you are spreading Russian Putler Trumpist propaganda by opposing them. We needed to bring Democracy, Coca-Cola, and the NFL to the Iraqi people so they can see that our way of life with radio pop music and mostly peaceful protests are superior. Also, we needed to protect Israel from the neo-Nazi regime of Saddam Hussein.

Why is it that criticism of our Democratic Institutions and the Experts (who you call the "establishment") always comes from crazy conspiracy theorists and antisemites?
#Resistance #DemocracyDiesInDarkness.

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Postby Vystercia-Nasucrea » Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:07 pm

Neoliberal Consensus wrote:
Vystercia-Nasucrea wrote:
The same establishment that drug us into a Drug War at great human cost and also four major wars in the Middle East, not to mention increasing neo-McCarthyism over RussiaGate (increasingly being exposed as a hoax)?
That establishment, the one that was hideously wrong about every single issue of consequence in the past century. Yeah, I'm very worried about questioning their incompetence and corruption.


Our wars in the Middle East were justified and you are spreading Russian Putler Trumpist propaganda by opposing them. We needed to bring Democracy, Coca-Cola, and the NFL to the Iraqi people so they can see that our way of life with radio pop music and mostly peaceful protests are superior. Also, we needed to protect Israel from the neo-Nazi regime of Saddam Hussein.

Why is it that criticism of our Democratic Institutions and the Experts (who you call the "establishment") always comes from crazy conspiracy theorists and antisemites?


My Jewish ancestors would be shocked at my alleged anti-Semitism.
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Postby Ispravlennaja Tsekovija » Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:07 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Ispravlennaja Tsekovija wrote:not even pro neolib but this is the dumbest concept for a troll account i've seen in a while and you're not clever for doing this

pot meet kettle.

i'm nowhere near a themed troll account LOL
Neoliberal Consensus wrote:
Ispravlennaja Tsekovija wrote:not even pro neolib but this is the dumbest concept for a troll account i've seen in a while and you're not clever for doing this


Your white supremacist bro-culture bullying is noted. Where do you work? You should be fired for this.

yawn. ever hear that brevity is the soul of wit? bc it doesn't seem like you've internalized that message.
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Postby Hispida » Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:11 pm

Picairn wrote:Seeing this many accounts with lava hot takes lately reminds me of Twitter. Is NSG being Twitterified?

tfw
if you're not outraged, why not?
i now have a basic overview factbook
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Postby Eahland » Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:11 pm

Neoliberal Consensus wrote:
Stellar Colonies wrote:As a Trekker since childhood, I just can never take QAnon seriously because calling someone 'Q' always makes me think of someone else.

It also doesn't help that character is essentially an Internet troll with god powers.



I too also take political ques from Star Trek, but I think Marvel movies are socially important movies and let us know that Captain America was opposed to Nazis.

Whenever I'm confronted with a moral or ethical dilemma, I just ask myself, "What Would Captain America Do?"

(Captain America punches the Nazis.)
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