Breaking News Protests across Cuba against the Cuban Regime

[Gim]

cha'al
...this might
take a while

Totally different from during the Bush administration. Bush visited Mexico on his first diplomatic journey.

[Gravlen]

Well, of course. That's to be expected, honestly; since the Mariel boatlift, at least, Cubans going to the US for refuge have pretty much exclusively been economic refugees. I can't imagine it's an easy choice for any of them, given the situation they're being forced into.

I wonder if the Americans deport them back. Chinese officials deport North Korean defectors back to their homeland.

The US turn back refugees travelling by sea, though most travel by land these days.

[Gim]

I wonder if the Americans deport them back. Chinese officials deport North Korean defectors back to their homeland.

The US turn back refugees travelling by sea, though most travel by land these days.

Ah, just as figured.

[Ifreann]

Where would the Cuban regime get rubber bullets and chemical weapons? The country is under an embargo, and tear gas isn't an extract of the leaves of the weeping willow.

Old Soviet-era stockpiles are always an option. That's likely how Syria managed to employ chemical weapons. I doubt the Marxist-Leninist one-party state is struggling when it comes to ensuring their police can properly brutalize protestors. That's one of the first things you fund if you want to keep the capitalists and liberals from staging a counter revolution through demonstrations and demands for elections.

And baton charges can be just as bad as tear gas or rubber bullets, especially if the intention is to seriously harm or maim, which we have some indication is the exact intention. Mind you, I'm certain some of these tactics, as in the US, are in response to actual riots. But the American and Cuban people are in different political and economic situations to a significant degree.

Old Soviet era stockpiles of rubber bullets and tear gas? Sounds implausible. Why would the Soviets have bothered sending the sorts of "less lethal" munitions used in riot control today when they could have been shipping real bullets for resisting the next attempted invasion by Americans?

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Bad take. Castro was an improvement over Batista in mostly every way.

False. And it doesn't matter if he was a slight improvement (If that BS is even true, my Cuban friends and neighbors ALL say otherwise), He was still a Communist dictator who murdered innocents. Fuck him.

Your Cuban friends and neighbours who lived under Batista 60 years ago? Your good buddies in their 80s and 90s?

[Gravlen]

Old Soviet-era stockpiles are always an option. That's likely how Syria managed to employ chemical weapons. I doubt the Marxist-Leninist one-party state is struggling when it comes to ensuring their police can properly brutalize protestors. That's one of the first things you fund if you want to keep the capitalists and liberals from staging a counter revolution through demonstrations and demands for elections.

And baton charges can be just as bad as tear gas or rubber bullets, especially if the intention is to seriously harm or maim, which we have some indication is the exact intention. Mind you, I'm certain some of these tactics, as in the US, are in response to actual riots. But the American and Cuban people are in different political and economic situations to a significant degree.

Old Soviet era stockpiles of rubber bullets and tear gas? Sounds implausible. Why would the Soviets have bothered sending the sorts of "less lethal" munitions used in riot control today when they could have been shipping real bullets for resisting the next attempted invasion by Americans?

Just as a point of information:

This AP news story references the use of tear gas:

The demonstration grew to a few thousand in the vicinity of Galeano Avenue and the marchers pressed on despite a few charges by police officers and tear gas barrages. People standing on many balconies along the central artery in the Centro Habana neighborhood applauded the protesters passing by. Others joined in the march.

Although many people tried to take out their cellphones and broadcast the protest live, Cuban authorities shut down internet service throughout the afternoon.

About 2 1/2 hours into the march, some protesters pulled up cobblestones and threw them at police, at which point officers began arresting people and the marchers dispersed.

AP journalists counted at least 20 people who were taken away in police cars or by individuals in civilian clothes.

I haven't see pictures featuring the use of tear gas, but AP is relatively reliable.

[Ifreann]

Old Soviet era stockpiles of rubber bullets and tear gas? Sounds implausible. Why would the Soviets have bothered sending the sorts of "less lethal" munitions used in riot control today when they could have been shipping real bullets for resisting the next attempted invasion by Americans?

Just as a point of information:

This AP news story references the use of tear gas:

The demonstration grew to a few thousand in the vicinity of Galeano Avenue and the marchers pressed on despite a few charges by police officers and tear gas barrages. People standing on many balconies along the central artery in the Centro Habana neighborhood applauded the protesters passing by. Others joined in the march.

Although many people tried to take out their cellphones and broadcast the protest live, Cuban authorities shut down internet service throughout the afternoon.

About 2 1/2 hours into the march, some protesters pulled up cobblestones and threw them at police, at which point officers began arresting people and the marchers dispersed.

AP journalists counted at least 20 people who were taken away in police cars or by individuals in civilian clothes.

I haven't see pictures featuring the use of tear gas, but AP is relatively reliable.

Fair enough, does seem unlikely they'd make that up.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

At the same time, Cuba is losing refugees to U.S., as they swim across the border.

Well, of course. That's to be expected, honestly; since the Mariel boatlift, at least, Cubans going to the US for refuge have pretty much exclusively been economic refugees. I can't imagine it's an easy choice for any of them, given the situation they're being forced into.

Is Cuba still doing that annual lottery where the family that wins can freely leave the country? My grandmother had renters at one point who left Cubs through that lottery program and were allowed to travel to visit their family in the island when they wanted to.

Cuban adjustment act?

[Asherahan]

Yeah, that's my point. The enmity in the relationship is largely one-sided. Cuba is our "enemy" because the US has decided it will simply not tolerate Cuba.

Cuba committed the ultimate crime: It threatened our sense of invincibility, therefore total submission or destruction is the only acceptable outcome to soothe our wounded pride.

We see a similar effect with Iran.

We regularly do business with far worse countries, countries that are actually responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of Americans, but those proxy wars and other conflicts never threatened our bubble the way the Cuban Missile Crisis or the Iranian Hostage Crisis did, so they get a pass.

The truth has been spoken. All hail the facts!

[Greater Miami Shores]

Cuba committed the ultimate crime: It threatened our sense of invincibility, therefore total submission or destruction is the only acceptable outcome to soothe our wounded pride.

We see a similar effect with Iran.

We regularly do business with far worse countries, countries that are actually responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of Americans, but those proxy wars and other conflicts never threatened our bubble the way the Cuban Missile Crisis or the Iranian Hostage Crisis did, so they get a pass.

The truth has been spoken. All hail the facts!

All Hail the Facts as you say, they should all Hail these other Facts:

The Cuban People in Cuba are unarmed by the eternal Revolution: Listen to the Cuban Americans in good English on the Videos:

The eternal, oppressive, Cuban regime of Cuba, of over 61 Years and counting, has committed violence against it's own Cuban People. All Hail the Facts. No more excuses, denials and support by any world leaders of nations and persons of the world, for the Cuban regime of Cuba. All Hail the Facts:

Depending on how you translate the words - La orden de Combate has been given:

President of Cuba - Miguel Díaz-Canel Bermúdez: The order of Combat has been given, the order of War has been given. The streets belong to the Revolutionaries. We are the Continuity of the Eternal Revolution. How many times do they have to say it to the leaders of the Nations and Persons of the world, in their Faces. We are the Continuity of the Eternal Revolution?

Cuban anti Cuban Regime Protests; Libertad Libertad Libertad - Patria Y Vida - Freedom Homeland and Life:
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=cu ... ORM%3DVDRE

ttps://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=cub ... ORM%3DVDRE

[Torrocca]

The truth has been spoken. All hail the facts!

The Cuban People in Cuba are unarmed by the eternal Revolution: Listen to the Cuban Americans in good English on the Videos:

The eternal, oppressive, Cuban regime of Cuba, of over 61 Years and counting, has committed violence against it's own Cuban People. All Hail the Facts. No more excuses, denials and support by any world leaders of nations and persons of the world, for the Cuban regime of Cuba. All Hail the Facts:

Depending on how you translate the words -La orden de Combate has been given:

President of Cuba - Miguel Díaz-Canel Bermúdez: The order of Combat, the order of War has been given. The streets belong to the Revolutionaries.

Cuban anti Cuban Regime Protests; Libertad Libertad Libertad - Patria Y Vida - Freedom Homeland and Life:
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=cu ... ORM%3DVDRE

ttps://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=cub ... ORM%3DVDRE

A small handful of Cubans who used the protests against the ongoing embargo to play counterrevolutionary got checked by thousands of people taking to the streets in defense of the revolution after the president of Cuba called on them to do so? Oh no!

Anyway.

[Fauzjhia]

The truth has been spoken. All hail the facts!

All Hail the Facts as you say, they should all Hail these other Facts:

The Cuban People in Cuba are unarmed by the eternal Revolution: Listen to the Cuban Americans in good English on the Videos:

The eternal, oppressive, Cuban regime of Cuba, of over 61 Years and counting, has committed violence against it's own Cuban People. All Hail the Facts. No more excuses, denials and support by any world leaders of nations and persons of the world, for the Cuban regime of Cuba. All Hail the Facts:

Depending on how you translate the words -La orden de Combate has been given:

President of Cuba - Miguel Díaz-Canel Bermúdez: The order of Combat, the order of War has been given. The streets belong to the Revolutionaries.

Cuban anti Cuban Regime Protests; Libertad Libertad Libertad - Patria Y Vida - Freedom Homeland and Life:
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=cu ... ORM%3DVDRE

ttps://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=cub ... ORM%3DVDRE

this Video is not new, its from 13th july, a bit after the creation of the this Threat

honestly. IF you have nothing new to say, MIght I ask you to not post, At this point, you are speaking about how the people are revolting against the(evil oppressive Cuban government) and point that you think Cuba should become capitalist, but you do not contribute to the discussion.

the Bellow poster has already asked you, why should we invade and (put democracy in Cuba, and no in Saudi-Arabia or other oppressive.) Why Cuba should be toppled but the arabian dictatorship get a free pass ? I'm still waiting for an explanation. A dictatorship is dictatorship, after all.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

All Hail the Facts as you say, they should all Hail these other Facts:

The Cuban People in Cuba are unarmed by the eternal Revolution: Listen to the Cuban Americans in good English on the Videos:

The eternal, oppressive, Cuban regime of Cuba, of over 61 Years and counting, has committed violence against it's own Cuban People. All Hail the Facts. No more excuses, denials and support by any world leaders of nations and persons of the world, for the Cuban regime of Cuba. All Hail the Facts:

Depending on how you translate the words -La orden de Combate has been given:

President of Cuba - Miguel Díaz-Canel Bermúdez: The order of Combat, the order of War has been given. The streets belong to the Revolutionaries.

Cuban anti Cuban Regime Protests; Libertad Libertad Libertad - Patria Y Vida - Freedom Homeland and Life:
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=cu ... ORM%3DVDRE

ttps://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=cub ... ORM%3DVDRE

this Video is not new, its from 13th july, a bit after the creation of the this Threat

honestly. IF you have nothing new to say, MIght I ask you to not post, At this point, you are speaking about how the people are revolting against the(evil oppressive Cuban government) and point that you think Cuba should become capitalist, but you do not contribute to the discussion.

the Bellow poster has already asked you, why should we invade and (put democracy in Cuba, and no in Saudi-Arabia or other oppressive.) Why Cuba should be toppled but the arabian dictatorship get a free pass ? I'm still waiting for an explanation. A dictatorship is dictatorship, after all.

He’s Cuban-American himself and has probably heard this litany from his expat parents. That’s the long and short of it.

[Sungoldy-China]

Different countries around the world have protests due to economic and material problems caused by the epidemic.
Does the United States plan to check all these protests in turn to determine whether it needs to bring democracy to these countries?

[Fauzjhia]

Different countries around the world have protests due to economic and material problems caused by the epidemic.
Does the United States plan to check all these protests in turn to determine whether it needs to bring democracy to these countries?

the USA should prove they are a democracy, because when we see the 6th january and that roughly half the population believed in false-election fraud theories. Other countries have the right to ask themselves if USA have anything to teach them.

[Greater Miami Shores]

All Hail the Facts as you say, they should all Hail these other Facts:

The Cuban People in Cuba are unarmed by the eternal Revolution: Listen to the Cuban Americans in good English on the Videos:

The eternal, oppressive, Cuban regime of Cuba, of over 61 Years and counting, has committed violence against it's own Cuban People. All Hail the Facts. No more excuses, denials and support by any world leaders of nations and persons of the world, for the Cuban regime of Cuba. All Hail the Facts:

Depending on how you translate the words -La orden de Combate has been given:

President of Cuba - Miguel Díaz-Canel Bermúdez: The order of Combat, the order of War has been given. The streets belong to the Revolutionaries.

Cuban anti Cuban Regime Protests; Libertad Libertad Libertad - Patria Y Vida - Freedom Homeland and Life:
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=cu ... ORM%3DVDRE

ttps://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=cub ... ORM%3DVDRE

this Video is not new, its from 13th july, a bit after the creation of the this Threat

honestly. IF you have nothing new to say, MIght I ask you to not post, At this point, you are speaking about how the people are revolting against the(evil oppressive Cuban government) and point that you think Cuba should become capitalist, but you do not contribute to the discussion.

the Bellow poster has already asked you, why should we invade and (put democracy in Cuba, and no in Saudi-Arabia or other oppressive.) Why Cuba should be toppled but the arabian dictatorship get a free pass ? I'm still waiting for an explanation. A dictatorship is dictatorship, after all.

I am the OP of this thread. I am a native Cuban and an American citizen, and I still have Family in Cuba. So I care about Freedom and Democracy in Cuba for my Family, Friends and all Cubans in Cuba. Cuban Americans and all Cubans all over the world, care about Freedom and Democracy in Cuba.

All Persons of western style, multi political Party capitalist nations, with all its faults and merits, should care about Freedom and Democracy in Cuba?

We should all care about Freedom and Democracy in Saudi Arabia, Iran and all nations. Right now on this thread of mine as the OP the issue is Cuba.

I see you are a communist. So I gather you think Cuba is a Communist, Democratic Socialist Nation. So I gather you support option 10 on the Poll: 10 - The USA should respect the Cuban government and do nothing? Supported by 79 Persons so far on the Poll.

I don't tell any Persons they should not Post any of their views on Cuba or any issues on any threads.

The OP: GMS Crazy Cuban Alberto, with Pride and Honor.

[Fauzjhia]

this Video is not new, its from 13th july, a bit after the creation of the this Threat

honestly. IF you have nothing new to say, MIght I ask you to not post, At this point, you are speaking about how the people are revolting against the(evil oppressive Cuban government) and point that you think Cuba should become capitalist, but you do not contribute to the discussion.

the Bellow poster has already asked you, why should we invade and (put democracy in Cuba, and no in Saudi-Arabia or other oppressive.) Why Cuba should be toppled but the arabian dictatorship get a free pass ? I'm still waiting for an explanation. A dictatorship is dictatorship, after all.

I am the OP of this thread. I am a native Cuban and an American citizen, and I still have Family in Cuba. So I care about Freedom and Democracy in Cuba for my Family, Friends and all Cubans in Cuba. Cuban Americans and all Cubans all over the world, care about Freedom and Democracy in Cuba.

All Persons of western style, multi political Party capitalist nations, with all its faults and merits, should care about Freedom and Democracy in Cuba?

We should all care about Freedom and Democracy in Saudi Arabia, Iran and all nations. Right now on this thread of mine as the OP the issue is Cuba.

I see you are a communist. So I gather you think Cuba is a Democratic Socialist Nation. So I gather you support option 10 on the Poll: 10 - The USA should respect the Cuban government and do nothing? Supported by 79 Persons so far on the Poll.

I don't tell any Persons they should not Post any of their views on Cuba or any issues on any threads.

The OP: GMS Crazy Cuban Alberto, with Pride and Honor.

If you read my posts, you would know what I believe on this. And you would know I don't. but I take it that you did not read my post at all.
edit : I wonder why I even write at all if you do not read me.

EDIT: HERE

[Greater Miami Shores]

As I have stated all nations break UN rules and laws when they want too. Cuban civilians would not be targeted. Nor do I want my fellow native Cubans to be targeted. But in wars there might be or are civilians hurt. Yes, the USA could have freed Cuba by now, all of us Cuban Americans say it to each other when we talk about about Cuba. Al of us Cuban Americans say to each other, the world leaders of the western style multi political party, capitalist nations, and the Persons of these nations, don't give a heck about Freedom Democracy and a Prosperous Cuba for the Cuban People. Then you guys wonder why we Crazy Cubans act and feel the way we do? Cuban Americans and Cubans all over the world, are demonstrating, asking and begging the these world nation leaders and the Persons of the world to support Freedom Democracy and a Prosperous Cuba for the Cuban People and our Families and Friends in Cuba. But they clearly don't give a Heck. They clearly support the eternal revolution, of the oppressive Cuban dictatorship regime of over 61 Years and counting. Then you guys wonder why we Crazy Cubans act and feel the way we do?

You are simply closing your eyes on an obvious truth, that war will bring civilian death, even we tries to avoid it. There was very few war with no civilian death, fail to see why suddenly, there would not be any civilian death.

As I have posted, there are many American businesses, Canadian businesses, European Businesses, corporations, ready, willing able and eager to invest in a democratic, capitalist Cuba. There are many rich $ Cuban Americans like me $, and rich $ Cubans all over the world, who are ready, willing and able to invest in a democratic, capitalist Cuba. Cuban citizens like my family and friends still in Cuba will be able to invest in a democratic, capitalist Cuba. Creating many jobs and a prosperous democratic capitalist Cuba. They will be able to send us in Miami, the USA and the world. Cuban Family Remittances $ and Care Packages if they wish too. The Cuban Pesos $ will be worth $ like the US dollar $, and at times more than the US dollar $, like it was worth before, the eternal, revolution of the eternal Cuban dictatorship regime, of over 61 Years and counting all these stated above don't give a Heck. Like we Cuban Americans and Cubans all over the world know it. We say to each other if it were any other nation, support for us would be much greater, than just fellow right wingers, like I have posted about on my previous post.

trickle-down economics. failing to see people will not invest in a fail state. A state of Law is necessary for any economy to succeed, no one will invest if they have to protect themselves with guns. A non-corrupt Cuban judicial system would need to be in place before anyone invest in Cuba.

Dude, I noticed you are a communist of sorts. This explains your Pro Cuban government Posts. But I have no Problems with it. I respect your democratic rights and the democratic rights of all Persons to strongly disagree with me on Cuba and all issues, with Personal respect to all Persons. We are all NS Friends and Discord Friends, who can chat and PR with each other, despite our different Politics, despite the Republicans and Republican President Donald J Trump of the USA. I Practice what I Preach with Pride and Honor. Your good Friend all Persons Good Friend. GMS Crazy Cuban Alberto, with Pride and Honor. The OP.

you are assuming I support the Cuban regime, because I question your posts, your logic and define myself as a communist, but I DO not. There are multiple Cubans law I simply find unacceptable, so don't assume to know how I think because you don't know. I simply believe another capitalist regime would not be a better solution, and I am very skeptic about the (USA being committed to democracy)
1 I do not support a centralized economy. Should be decentralized and based around cooperatives.
2 I do not support propaganda news, people have a right to learn information and facts about the world.
3 I do support the people right to decide their future, since I am a Québécois nationalism, but that does not come from an invasion by the USA.
4 I believe we could improve the Cuban regime and the people life, a lot, by negociate the end of the embargo. (this is a very juicy treasure, and I believe Cuba might be willing to enact some democratic regime if the USA were to put it on the table)
5 I would prefer proportional elections, but if we must talk about a one-party state, then I think the restriction for joining the party should be very loose, and allow everyone to join, because communism is supposed to be for everyone, not for an elite. (that would give us a FPTP unofficial system, so strong preference for proportional.)
I do not support the Cuban Regime, especially since they are buddy-buddy with Canada, and I don't think the USA has any right to invade it.
3

lol, I am not closing my eyes to anything. In wars civilians at times get hurt. What is better for the Cuban People and my Family and Friends still in Cuba, is Freedom Democracy and a capitalist economy. Rich $ Cuban Americans like me $ and rich $ Cubans all over the world, are ready willing and able to invest $ in Cuba. Canadian, European, Japanese, Australia, New Zealand, Hispanic, Latin Brazilian, US Businesses and many Businesses all over the world are ready, willing and able to invest $ in Cuba. The Cuban People in Cuba are ready, willing and able to invest $ in Cuba. The only real embargo Blockade in Cuba its the Cuban Regime's embargo against the Cuban People in Cuba. The Cuban People in Cuba are unarmed against the oppressive eternal Cuban regime of over 61 Years and Counting. The Cuban regime clearly does not want to change in any ways, because they know they can loose power, these People are not stupid. So it makes Poll options 5 6 and 10 on the Poll irrelevant. No more excuses, denials and support for the Cuban regime.

Look at the Rich $ Communist, Socialist, Capitalist Families of Cuba:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1235120

But all Poll options and other Poll options need to be on the Poll to fit all Persons different Political views. I wish I could have a million plus Poll options to fit all Persons different Political views. But I only have 10 options to work with, no Poll is Perfect.

This is the Real Cuba - The OP, native Cuban - GMS Crazy Cuban Alberto, with Pride and Honor.

[Fauzjhia]

1 its like the third time, that I say I do not view Cuba as a democratic, nor a communist nation. yet you still put words in my mouth, and you did not apologize for that...

2 we already talk about the American Embargo, I'm not going to remake those discussion because you can certainly read a wikipedia article.

3 We already talked about this trickle-down economic, and I pointed the rich are simply as generous as the poor. not surprising considering the rich are not aliens born on Mars, but humans born on Earth, like the both of us.

4 there is no way you can really predict the future of an human society, most theories on economics fails because we are not robots, our behaviors can't really be predicted by some (scientific laws), and that's a good thing

5 we are wondering if you have ANYTHING NEW to say, rather just repeating over and over that Cuba is evil. You made it clear that you think that, however repeating this multiple just make you boring. Everything you wrote in your last, I believe you already post it before...

[Saiwania]

A small handful of Cubans who used the protests against the ongoing embargo to play counterrevolutionary got checked by thousands of people taking to the streets in defense of the revolution after the president of Cuba called on them to do so? Oh no!

I blame the fact that the US didn't intervene whilst the iron was hot. If the protests have died down or are over, it is because it is "too little, too late." There was a real chance to destabilize Cuba's government and maybe bring about a regime change like what was accomplished for Libya.

I'm sure Iran's current regime has its supporters as well, but this doesn't mean its a good idea to just leave them alone to rule indefinitely. These are undesirable regimes that could be replaced with a more favorable one under the right conditions.

[Senkaku]

cha'al
...this might
take a while

Totally different from during the Bush administration. Bush visited Mexico on his first diplomatic journey.

are Mexicans everywhere supposed to be creaming their jeans with the memory of George the benevolent Yankee, or are you using some bullshit piece of theater to justify a weird post hoc hagiography because you can't bear the full weight of his party's failures (or are you being sarcastic, or is it sincere but not political and you just can't even imagine someone south of the border not wanting to suck Texan dick)

[Senkaku]

In wars civilians at times get hurt.

ugh same goes for revolutions comrade, so sorry for any inconvenience to ur family tho!

[Torrocca]

A small handful of Cubans who used the protests against the ongoing embargo to play counterrevolutionary got checked by thousands of people taking to the streets in defense of the revolution after the president of Cuba called on them to do so? Oh no!

I blame the fact that the US didn't intervene whilst the iron was hot. If the protests have died down or are over, it is because it is "too little, too late." There was a real chance to destabilize Cuba's government and maybe bring about a regime change like what was accomplished for Libya.

I'm sure Iran's current regime has its supporters as well, but this doesn't mean its a good idea to just leave them alone to rule indefinitely. These are undesirable regimes that could be replaced with a more favorable one under the right conditions.

Ah, yes, a regime change like what was accomplished for Libya, where they went from *checks notes* a stable country where homelessness was nearly eradicated, land was equitably distributed to the people, colonial/imperial influences were dashed, people had plentiful access to food and clean water, education and literacy skyrocketed, life expectancy soared with the eradication of many diseases, and formerly-oppressed groups were given equal footing in society to *checks notes again* a destabilized country still plagued by violence and open air slave markets.

I'm sure that's exactly what the people of Cuba want.

[Torrocca]

You are simply closing your eyes on an obvious truth, that war will bring civilian death, even we tries to avoid it. There was very few war with no civilian death, fail to see why suddenly, there would not be any civilian death.



trickle-down economics. failing to see people will not invest in a fail state. A state of Law is necessary for any economy to succeed, no one will invest if they have to protect themselves with guns. A non-corrupt Cuban judicial system would need to be in place before anyone invest in Cuba.



you are assuming I support the Cuban regime, because I question your posts, your logic and define myself as a communist, but I DO not. There are multiple Cubans law I simply find unacceptable, so don't assume to know how I think because you don't know. I simply believe another capitalist regime would not be a better solution, and I am very skeptic about the (USA being committed to democracy)
1 I do not support a centralized economy. Should be decentralized and based around cooperatives.
2 I do not support propaganda news, people have a right to learn information and facts about the world.
3 I do support the people right to decide their future, since I am a Québécois nationalism, but that does not come from an invasion by the USA.
4 I believe we could improve the Cuban regime and the people life, a lot, by negociate the end of the embargo. (this is a very juicy treasure, and I believe Cuba might be willing to enact some democratic regime if the USA were to put it on the table)
5 I would prefer proportional elections, but if we must talk about a one-party state, then I think the restriction for joining the party should be very loose, and allow everyone to join, because communism is supposed to be for everyone, not for an elite. (that would give us a FPTP unofficial system, so strong preference for proportional.)
I do not support the Cuban Regime, especially since they are buddy-buddy with Canada, and I don't think the USA has any right to invade it.
3

lol, I am not closing my eyes to anything. In wars civilians at times get hurt. What is better for the Cuban People and my Family and Friends still in Cuba, is Freedom Democracy and a capitalist economy.

As we all know, anyone who's ever super duper serious about the rights of an entire country of people that they claim compatriotism with will spew the canned "freedom and democracy" bullshit that's been used to justify untold millions upon millions of atrocities across the globe since 1945. Especially after white-washing the idea of war down to "civilians sometimes get hurt in war!!1!" Well guess what? They got hurt plenty enough under your dream economic system when Batista was in charge and all those fancy lil corporations from America owned nearly everything. Those civilians you're pretending to care so much about in Cuba aren't gonna willingly go back to that, so have fun advocating for them to "get hurt" with your interventionist bullshit from the comfort of your home.

Rich $ Cuban Americans like me $ and rich $ Cubans all over the world, are ready willing and able to invest $ in Cuba.

Oh, of course you're bourgeois. That explains it perfectly; you don't give a damn about "freedom and democracy," as much as you wanna say you do, you just want your family back at the top of the food chain in Cuba and the people who already liberated themselves from bourgeois bullshit to be "put back in their place." And, honestly? It doesn't fucking matter if you actually, honest-to-god believe that "freedom and democracy" bullshit you're spewing; you're advocating for exactly the opposite. Let's not play wishy-washy with words here.

Canadian, European, Japanese, Australia, New Zealand, Hispanic, Latin Brazilian, US Businesses and many Businesses all over the world are ready, willing and able to invest $ in Cuba. The Cuban People in Cuba are ready, willing and able to invest $ in Cuba. The only real embargo Blockade in Cuba its the Cuban Regime's embargo against the Cuban People in Cuba.

The last time foreign enterprise "invested" in the country you claim to care so much about, Cuba was practically a slave state under the thumb of American corporations, the American mafia, and a puppet dictator. The Cuban people support the revolution, not your fantasy of a return to those good old days. And, no, a low couple hundred people playing counterrevolutionary in the streets on the coattails of a bunch of protests that happened because of the US embargo is not representative of the Cuban people.

The Cuban People in Cuba are unarmed against the oppressive eternal Cuban regime of over 61 Years and Counting. The Cuban regime clearly does not want to change in any ways, because they know they can loose power, these People are not stupid. So it makes Poll options 5 6 and 10 on the Poll irrelevant. No more excuses, denials and support for the Cuban regime.

The Cuban people have more control over their government than people in Western democracies ever could. Are you suggesting the people of Cuba are oppressing themselves, in that case? Because that's utterly laughable.

Look at the Rich $ Communist, Socialist, Capitalist Families of Cuba:
https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1235120

But all Poll options and other Poll options need to be on the Poll to fit all Persons different Political views. I wish I could have a million plus Poll options to fit all Persons different Political views. But I only have 10 options to work with, no Poll is Perfect.

This is the Real Cuba - The OP, native Cuban - GMS Crazy Cuban Alberto, with Pride and Honor.

Whoa! Castro was on a yacht one time! Oh no!

Anyway.

[The Reformed American Republic]

The Cuban people have more control over their government than people in Western democracies ever could. Are you suggesting the people of Cuba are oppressing themselves, in that case? Because that's utterly laughable.

I'm not in favor of regime change intervention, but I highly doubt that claim. It's a single party authoritarian state that has just arrested bunch of protesters and doesn't allow other parties to have a say in government. That is in contrast to multi-party western democracies in Europe.

[Torrocca]

The Cuban people have more control over their government than people in Western democracies ever could. Are you suggesting the people of Cuba are oppressing themselves, in that case? Because that's utterly laughable.

I'm not in favor of regime change intervention, but I highly doubt that claim. It's a single party authoritarian state that has just arrested bunch of protesters and doesn't allow other parties to have a say in government. That is in contrast to multi-party western democracies in Europe.

Having multiple political parties doesn't make any country more democratic than one that only has one. All that's doing is expanding the overton window and kneecapping the effectiveness of the government, which is especially bad for ideologically Socialist countries, because the first and most important concern of the governments of those countries is taking care of the masses.

And, regardless, the Cuban system is very democratic. The sources are in the video description.