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Postby Ellbonnia » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:00 pm

Miku the Based wrote:It's the duty for humanity to abolish the gay and get rid of the gay gene. They say it's partially genetic and partially culture/society.
Functionally gays serve no purpose to society if they can't reliably pass thier genes to thier offspring and only serve as mindless consumer and worker drones. Thier life is condemned to suffering and I feel sorry for them.
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Postby Silvedania » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:01 pm

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Postby SimTropican » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:02 pm

Gongsi wrote:
Cetacea wrote:
There is no mention of a Marriage ceremony in Scripture, the giving of a women to a man was a contract arrangement between the Man and a Woman's father, traditionally it was entirely a secular arrangement.

The Roman Catholic Church didnt require a Marriage to be officiated by the Church until 1563

Ah, Christian traditionalism/culturalism/revisionism. The one thing that can stand in the way of Christ's doctrine of love, compassion, forgiveness, and non-judgement. What would we do without it?


First I'm Christian Orthodox, not Roman Catholic so there's that, but I stand by church, doctrine, Dogma and tradition which I've made clear before. I said it before and I'll say it again I'm not forcing my beliefs on others marriage to us is entirely an internal matter within parishes as a Sacrament. Ya'll can call your hetrosexual, homoesexual and whatever else partnerships "marriages" all you want but the Church doesn't recognize it as a marriage if it's not done sacramentally within a church and fall into church teachings. I thought ya'll said you wouldn't force your views on religious folk, (Besides it being illegal and violating religious freedom (At least in the United States)).

This topic was on homophobia (Which attacking or hating anyone for any reason is something the church is against, even when we don't agree with what they're doing)

(I'd get into all the theology of Holy Marriage in Holy Scriptures, Sacred Tradition and whatnot but It'd be off topic and I don't want to frustrate anyone here)

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Postby Caraani » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:02 pm

Thanks though for all the propaganda and broken links, I appreciate a homophobe in the evening. It keeps me on my toes.
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:03 pm

SimTropican wrote:
Gongsi wrote:Ah, Christian traditionalism/culturalism/revisionism. The one thing that can stand in the way of Christ's doctrine of love, compassion, forgiveness, and non-judgement. What would we do without it?


First I'm Christian Orthodox, not Roman Catholic so there's that, but I stand by church, doctrine, Dogma and tradition which I've made clear before. I said it before and I'll say it again I'm not forcing my beliefs on others marriage to us is entirely an internal matter within parishes as a Sacrament. Ya'll can call your hetrosexual, homoesexual and whatever else partnerships "marriages" all you want but the Church doesn't recognize it as a marriage if it's not done sacramentally within a church and fall into church teachings. I thought ya'll said you wouldn't force your views on religious folk, (Besides it being illegal and violating religious freedom (At least in the United States)).

This topic was on homophobia (Which attacking or hating anyone for any reason is something the church is against, even when we don't agree with what they're doing)

(I'd get into all the theology of Holy Marriage in Holy Scriptures, Sacred Tradition and whatnot but It'd be off topic and I don't want to frustrate anyone here)

Isn't it nice that there are churches who do recognize SSM before god.
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Postby Ellbonnia » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:04 pm

Dragoon Republic wrote:Gay men are twice as likely as straight men to be in interracial relationships.


And that's a problem, how...?
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Postby Daarwyrth » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:04 pm

Half of your links lead to broken sites. The other half lead to virus/malware sites that want to download malware and adware, which my pc protection luckily caught. So, your claims are as trustworthy as your sites, aka not.
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Postby Silvedania » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:05 pm

Ellbonnia wrote:
Dragoon Republic wrote:Gay men are twice as likely as straight men to be in interracial relationships.


And that's a problem, how...?

It’s not a problem.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:07 pm

Miku the Based wrote:It's the duty for humanity to abolish the gay and get rid of the gay gene. They say it's partially genetic and partially culture/society.
Functionally gays serve no purpose to society if they can't reliably pass thier genes to thier offspring and only serve as mindless consumer and worker drones. Thier life is condemned to suffering and I feel sorry for them.
IC: we just genetically modify the human genome to get rid of the gay gene and have a culture where it doesn't exist. The government is the nanny state that takes care of the children, not gay uncles. Anybody who is still somehow gay gets a free boat ride to England as I heard they love gays over there (concerning their regime change threats to ghana). We stand in solidarity with Ghana and Belarusia on this issue.


Ironically your opinion serves far less of a purpose for society but we still gotta deal with it and can't just abolish it. Being gay doesn't harm society any more than it helps it so I don't see why you're so up in arms about it.
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Postby Istoreya » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:07 pm

Daarwyrth wrote:Half of your links lead to broken sites. The other half lead to virus/malware sites that want to download malware and adware, which my pc protection luckily caught. So, your claims are as trustworthy as your sites, aka not.

Thank you for this, I was going to check those link out myself shortly. Now I shall not be doing that.

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Postby Nakena » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:07 pm

SimTropican wrote:
Gongsi wrote:Ah, Christian traditionalism/culturalism/revisionism. The one thing that can stand in the way of Christ's doctrine of love, compassion, forgiveness, and non-judgement. What would we do without it?


First I'm Christian Orthodox, not Roman Catholic so there's that, but I stand by church, doctrine, Dogma and tradition which I've made clear before. I said it before and I'll say it again I'm not forcing my beliefs on others marriage to us is entirely an internal matter within parishes as a Sacrament. Ya'll can call your hetrosexual, homoesexual and whatever else partnerships "marriages" all you want but the Church doesn't recognize it as a marriage if it's not done sacramentally within a church and fall into church teachings. I thought ya'll said you wouldn't force your views on religious folk, (Besides it being illegal and violating religious freedom (At least in the United States)).

This topic was on homophobia (Which attacking or hating anyone for any reason is something the church is against, even when we don't agree with what they're doing)

(I'd get into all the theology of Holy Marriage in Holy Scriptures, Sacred Tradition and whatnot but It'd be off topic and I don't want to frustrate anyone here)


Thank you for pointing this out.

It's something that few people could (or wanted) to mention or elaborate on even when I asked them specifically to explain what you just did explain here.

And thats exactly the thing, why people would be upset about secular marriage that doesnt even counts as sacramental marriage from church perspective?

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Postby Daarwyrth » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:09 pm

SimTropican wrote:I said it before and I'll say it again I'm not forcing my beliefs on others marriage to us is entirely an internal matter within parishes as a Sacrament. Ya'll can call your hetrosexual, homoesexual and whatever else partnerships "marriages" all you want but the Church doesn't recognize it as a marriage if it's not done sacramentally within a church and fall into church teachings.

Luckily, your religion doesn't get to decide what counts as marriage and what not! Society does that, and judging from how same-sex marriages are becoming commonplace across the world, they do count as marriages, true marriages. Without the quotation marks you put in your post.

If your religion doesn't want to recognise gay marriages, so be it. But it doesn't get to say what is and isn't a true marriage, what can count as marriage and what not.
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Postby SimTropican » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:09 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
SimTropican wrote:
First I'm Christian Orthodox, not Roman Catholic so there's that, but I stand by church, doctrine, Dogma and tradition which I've made clear before. I said it before and I'll say it again I'm not forcing my beliefs on others marriage to us is entirely an internal matter within parishes as a Sacrament. Ya'll can call your hetrosexual, homoesexual and whatever else partnerships "marriages" all you want but the Church doesn't recognize it as a marriage if it's not done sacramentally within a church and fall into church teachings. I thought ya'll said you wouldn't force your views on religious folk, (Besides it being illegal and violating religious freedom (At least in the United States)).

This topic was on homophobia (Which attacking or hating anyone for any reason is something the church is against, even when we don't agree with what they're doing)

(I'd get into all the theology of Holy Marriage in Holy Scriptures, Sacred Tradition and whatnot but It'd be off topic and I don't want to frustrate anyone here)

Isn't it nice that there are churches who do recognize SSM before god.


What's the point? those protestant "churches" have no theological authority or control over Christian Orthodoxy and are already considered heretics. Even the more liturgic churches are considered invalid with all their sacraments so Idk what your getting at. A Baptist doesn't have the ability to stop us from believing in Christ's Physical Body, Blood Soul and Divinity in the Holy Mysteries (Communion) just as the Roman Pope can't force us to accept the Filioque in the Nicene Creed. Just because they accept it doesn't change anything.

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Postby Punished UMN » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:10 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Punished UMN wrote:Yeah, and I'm saying that's still bad political strategy because such attacks legitimize political repression. States would be less inclined to persecute LGBT rights groups if those groups were supportive of the state and its political objectives, which are in fact not always motivated by simple prejudice.

Yes, if gay people just stopped complaining about being persecuted, everyone would stop persecuting them! Why has no one thought of this, we should tell the Rohingya and the Uyghurs to try it too!

As opposed to violent resistance to the state, which has worked wonders for both groups, yeah?
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Postby Caraani » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:10 pm

Silvedania wrote:
Ellbonnia wrote:
And that's a problem, how...?

It’s not a problem.

It's a feature, really. Have you seen men of different races? Oof
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:11 pm

Caraani wrote:
Silvedania wrote:It’s not a problem.

It's a feature, really. Have you seen men of different races? Oof


What about them ?
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:11 pm

SimTropican wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Isn't it nice that there are churches who do recognize SSM before god.


What's the point? those protestant "churches" have no theological authority or control over Christian Orthodoxy and are already considered heretics. Even the more liturgic churches are considered invalid with all their sacraments so Idk what your getting at. A Baptist doesn't have the ability to stop us from believing in Christ's Physical Body, Blood Soul and Divinity in the Holy Mysteries (Communion) just as the Roman Pope can't force us to accept the Filioque in the Nicene Creed. Just because they accept it doesn't change anything.

And meanwhile you are heretics where they are concerned, and have no theological authority.
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Punished UMN wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Yes, if gay people just stopped complaining about being persecuted, everyone would stop persecuting them! Why has no one thought of this, we should tell the Rohingya and the Uyghurs to try it too!

As opposed to violent resistance to the state, which has worked wonders for both groups, yeah?

"Violent resistance to the state" -> Literally marching on the streets showing people we exist. <<<<<<- VIOLENCE
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Postby Punished UMN » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:13 pm

Caraani wrote:
Punished UMN wrote:As opposed to violent resistance to the state, which has worked wonders for both groups, yeah?

"Violent resistance to the state" -> Literally marching on the streets showing people we exist. <<<<<<- VIOLENCE

I was referring to the Rohyngia and Uyghers, who have used violence.
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Again, the regimes in these countries aren't going anywhere, so you have to work with them whether you want to or not.
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Postby Daarwyrth » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:13 pm

Names Are Too Hard wrote:Yikes, glad I didn’t click on those links. I thought posting malware knowingly was bannable?

Some people will go to any length to defend a false narrative, even if their "evidence" leads to virus and malware sites. And that shows the veracity of their argument, that their sources are literally broken sites and malware-invested sites. Reputable sources wouldn't have that.
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Miku the Based wrote:It's the duty for humanity to abolish the gay and get rid of the gay gene. They say it's partially genetic and partially culture/society.
Functionally gays serve no purpose to society if they can't reliably pass thier genes to thier offspring and only serve as mindless consumer and worker drones. Thier life is condemned to suffering and I feel sorry for them.
IC: we just genetically modify the human genome to get rid of the gay gene and have a culture where it doesn't exist. The government is the nanny state that takes care of the children, not gay uncles. Anybody who is still somehow gay gets a free boat ride to England as I heard they love gays over there (concerning their regime change threats to ghana). We stand in solidarity with Ghana and Belarusia on this issue.


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If you're not a baby producing factory operating at max capacity, you clearly serve no purpose in life.
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