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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:59 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:Bogus in that there are several recounts

Recounts that may only net Trump a few dozen to a few hundred extra votes. No recount is gonna lead to a vote bombshell that’ll propel Trump into winning.

The Emerald Legion wrote:and court cases ongoing?

Court cases with very little to no legal standing.

The Emerald Legion wrote:It's not over until it's actually over.

It’s over.

The Emerald Legion wrote: Regardless of probability, and last I heard the Supreme court was set to take on the PA case.

A simple google search says Justice Alito ordered PA to “set aside” yet still count absentee ballots, I.e. separate Election Day votes from mail in votes but still count them in the tally, not the win you were probably hoping for.
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Postby Sanghyeok » Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:17 pm

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The operative word is if.


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Postby The Emerald Legion » Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:26 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:Bogus in that there are several recounts

Recounts that may only net Trump a few dozen to a few hundred extra votes. No recount is gonna lead to a vote bombshell that’ll propel Trump into winning.

The Emerald Legion wrote:and court cases ongoing?

Court cases with very little to no legal standing.

The Emerald Legion wrote:It's not over until it's actually over.

It’s over.

The Emerald Legion wrote: Regardless of probability, and last I heard the Supreme court was set to take on the PA case.

A simple google search says Justice Alito ordered PA to “set aside” yet still count absentee ballots, I.e. separate Election Day votes from mail in votes but still count them in the tally, not the win you were probably hoping for.


It's a prelude to further action.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:31 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Recounts that may only net Trump a few dozen to a few hundred extra votes. No recount is gonna lead to a vote bombshell that’ll propel Trump into winning.


Court cases with very little to no legal standing.


It’s over.


A simple google search says Justice Alito ordered PA to “set aside” yet still count absentee ballots, I.e. separate Election Day votes from mail in votes but still count them in the tally, not the win you were probably hoping for.


It's a prelude to further action.


Further action such as what?
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:32 pm

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Albrenia wrote:
Oh, so you buy the bogus claims of the media shilling despite them waiting two days longer than needed.

I suppose you also can't understand how mail-in ballots logically favour the guy who explicitly encouraged them over the guy who explicitly claimed them fraudulent.


Bogus in that there are several recounts and court cases ongoing?

It's not over until it's actually over. Regardless of probability, and last I heard the Supreme court was set to take on the PA case.


Irs over. You lost. The Supreme court isn't going to declare ballots invalid and give Trump the state.

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Postby Telconi » Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:35 pm

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Trump supporters deserve to be mocked, frankly.

You tied yourselves down to a deranged, racist imbecile that left 230,000+ Americans to die of a virus he completely ignored as he also mocked dead soldiers, bragged about sexually assaulting young girls, and even called you guys idiots to your faces (which caused you to cheer) while he stuffed his bank account full of your taxes and still somehow went broke. The past 4 years have just proven what most Americana already knew: Trump is a liar, a pervert, a bigot, a moron, and a psychopath.

And you stuck by him. Because he was "your guy" from "your party" or whatever other nonsense you use to justify it. You dismissed every gaffe and crime he committed as "fake news" or "taken out of context". So, yeah, sorry, you deserve to be mocked. Until the day you wake up and realize you were wrong, and then admit it, you deserve to be mocked.

I don't get what the people calling for "unity" expect. You've consistently displayed that you don't give a fuck about the facts, the law, or even human life - yet they somehow expect that by being respectful toward you they can sway you to reason. What a bunch of bullshit. Once you're in the Cult 45 the only way out is through your own efforts.

Until then, you will be mocked. You will be mocked until you realize why you're being mocked and why you deserve to be mocked. So spare me the "boohoo stop picking on me because I support Trump you guys" crap. You asked for this when you signed up with that lunatic and stood beside him through every act of evil and stupidity he committed to this day. Until you renounce him, you're going to be mocked. Deal with it.


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Postby Spirit of Hope » Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:36 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Recounts that may only net Trump a few dozen to a few hundred extra votes. No recount is gonna lead to a vote bombshell that’ll propel Trump into winning.


Court cases with very little to no legal standing.


It’s over.


A simple google search says Justice Alito ordered PA to “set aside” yet still count absentee ballots, I.e. separate Election Day votes from mail in votes but still count them in the tally, not the win you were probably hoping for.


It's a prelude to further action.


The ballots that were separated were absentee ballots received after election day. Biden won PA without including those absentee ballots, so no SCOTUS is not going to hand PA to Trump, even if they do accept the case and rule in Trump's favor, both of which are unlikely to occur.

Additionally even if PA flips, Biden would still likely win given Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, and Georgia. Trump would have to get two of those as well to win.
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Postby Andsed » Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:57 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Oh, so you buy the bogus claims of the media shilling despite them waiting two days longer than needed.

I suppose you also can't understand how mail-in ballots logically favour the guy who explicitly encouraged them over the guy who explicitly claimed them fraudulent.


Bogus in that there are several recounts and court cases ongoing?

It's not over until it's actually over. Regardless of probability, and last I heard the Supreme court was set to take on the PA case.

Recounts dont usually flip states unless the margins are in the hundreds. Pretty much none of the crucial states are in such a margin. And while Trump has thrown out several court cases very few if any have gone anywhere. and the Supreme courts involvement in PA was very limited in that all it did was confirm that they should be separating absentee ballots ballots but still counting them. So not much really changed there.

So no its pretty much over. There is no real way for Trump to win without blatantly violating the results of the election.
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Postby Albrenia » Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:00 pm

After this showing though, right-wingers should never get to call the left snowflakes again. At least for all the people crying about 'not my President' four years ago, Hillary didn't spend days and days refusing to admit defeat.

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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:01 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Recounts that may only net Trump a few dozen to a few hundred extra votes. No recount is gonna lead to a vote bombshell that’ll propel Trump into winning.


Court cases with very little to no legal standing.


It’s over.


A simple google search says Justice Alito ordered PA to “set aside” yet still count absentee ballots, I.e. separate Election Day votes from mail in votes but still count them in the tally, not the win you were probably hoping for.


It's a prelude to further action.

What further action? Are you hoping Trump assumes his role as an autocratic dictator and have SCOTUS somehow go along with him?
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:17 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
It's a prelude to further action.

What further action? Are you hoping Trump assumes his role as an autocratic dictator and have SCOTUS somehow go along with him?


Trump's legal team can't even get state courts to agree with them, let alone the highest court in all the land.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:34 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Recounts that may only net Trump a few dozen to a few hundred extra votes. No recount is gonna lead to a vote bombshell that’ll propel Trump into winning.


Court cases with very little to no legal standing.


It’s over.


A simple google search says Justice Alito ordered PA to “set aside” yet still count absentee ballots, I.e. separate Election Day votes from mail in votes but still count them in the tally, not the win you were probably hoping for.


It's a prelude to further action.


Further action such as the president have another Twitter meltdown.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:36 pm

Albrenia wrote:After this showing though, right-wingers should never get to call the left snowflakes again. At least for all the people crying about 'not my President' four years ago, Hillary didn't spend days and days refusing to admit defeat.


I knew for a long time they were snowflakes. Many of them are fucking scared of a bunch of Mexican war refugee children fleeing across the border and keep calling that "an invasion."

Damn, I bet the Polish wish that was the kind of invasion they suffered in World War II.
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Postby Diarcesia » Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:42 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
It's a prelude to further action.


Further action such as the president have another Twitter meltdown.

My gosh I'm shaking down to my boots :rofl:

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:09 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Recounts that may only net Trump a few dozen to a few hundred extra votes. No recount is gonna lead to a vote bombshell that’ll propel Trump into winning.


Court cases with very little to no legal standing.


It’s over.


A simple google search says Justice Alito ordered PA to “set aside” yet still count absentee ballots, I.e. separate Election Day votes from mail in votes but still count them in the tally, not the win you were probably hoping for.


It's a prelude to further action.


It's a pretense of action. If Republicans don't keep demonstrating their willingness to fight, it's like admitting Trump lost. But they're unarmed, they've got nothing. Trump just lost a fight, he's in no shape to stagger up and have another swing. What can Republicans possibly do to keep up the fight ... after they've lost it?

This is a "prelude" the way throwing rocks at the police is a prelude to storming the Capitol. The police won't give you any trouble. If they start advancing you can shout out "it's OK guys, we're Republicans, we're not going to hurt you, just let us into the Capitol" and just keep throwing rocks at them until they get out of the way. I don't see what could possibly go wrong with this plan.

Yes, that was an analogy. Republicans are throwing rocks (frivolous suits) at the court, to try to make the court stand aside and let them attack the new government.

Just keep throwing those rocks guys! Courts won't be annoyed at all, I'm sure they'll just stand aside and let you walk right in.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:16 pm

If I was leading the Republicans now, while Trump is still incapacitated by grief and anger, I would set a deadline.

Well, sir, we'll give it a few more days to see if any of the voter fraud charges proceed to trial. Actually, we'll give it a week. If nothing sticks by Monday lunchtime next week, we're going to stop paying to lick shit up a hill oh, I mean we're going to stop paying the court costs. Of course nothing stops you litigating after that ... but you'll have to pay for it. Sir.
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Postby Des-Bal » Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:04 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:If I was leading the Republicans now, while Trump is still incapacitated by grief and anger, I would set a deadline.

Well, sir, we'll give it a few more days to see if any of the voter fraud charges proceed to trial. Actually, we'll give it a week. If nothing sticks by Monday lunchtime next week, we're going to stop paying to lick shit up a hill oh, I mean we're going to stop paying the court costs. Of course nothing stops you litigating after that ... but you'll have to pay for it. Sir.


I don't see it changing. A better approach would be to threaten his family. Tell him that if he doesn't cut the shit and stop embarrassing the GOP not only is his political career over, all of his children will be blackballed by the party.
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Postby Aclion » Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:32 pm

Albrenia wrote:After this showing though, right-wingers should never get to call the left snowflakes again. At least for all the people crying about 'not my President' four years ago, Hillary didn't spend days and days refusing to admit defeat.

Uh Hilary claimed Trump was illegitimate as recently as this summer
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:41 pm

Aclion wrote:
Albrenia wrote:After this showing though, right-wingers should never get to call the left snowflakes again. At least for all the people crying about 'not my President' four years ago, Hillary didn't spend days and days refusing to admit defeat.

Uh Hilary claimed Trump was illegitimate as recently as this summer


*shrugs* And we should care why?

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Postby Nevertopia » Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:42 pm

YO! TRUMPS TWITTER ACCOUNT IS SUSPENDED! :rofl:
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Postby Dominioan » Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:43 pm

Nevertopia wrote:YO! TRUMPS TWITTER ACCOUNT IS SUSPENDED! :rofl:

Serious?
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Postby Aclion » Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:51 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Aclion wrote:Uh Hilary claimed Trump was illegitimate as recently as this summer


*shrugs* And we should care why?

Trump is done. Time to move on.

See the post i was responding to?
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Postby Major-Tom » Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:53 pm

Aclion wrote:
Albrenia wrote:After this showing though, right-wingers should never get to call the left snowflakes again. At least for all the people crying about 'not my President' four years ago, Hillary didn't spend days and days refusing to admit defeat.

Uh Hilary claimed Trump was illegitimate as recently as this summer


She conceded the day after, didn't she? For a self-described Libertarian, you manage to hit all the Trump talking points.
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Postby Major-Tom » Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:54 pm

Nevertopia wrote:YO! TRUMPS TWITTER ACCOUNT IS SUSPENDED! :rofl:


Doesn't look like it.

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Postby Nevertopia » Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:57 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Nevertopia wrote:YO! TRUMPS TWITTER ACCOUNT IS SUSPENDED! :rofl:


Doesn't look like it.


nvm, he mightve just deleted the tweet, or more likely white house is on damage control and wont let him post anything.
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