MAGAThread XX: A Journal of the Plague Year

[Minoa]

Everyone seems to be going “YOU’RE FIIIRRREEED !!!” on social media, as if they were Vince McMahon.

Which is unwise seeing as the guy is still in power for two months.

Social media never waits. That is what makes them too fast for my pace of life.

[Des-Bal]

In addition, Bidens message of unity and Americans coming together will not reach its audience if people keep mocking Trump and his supporters.

Otoh, some people may not want that. As someone put it: "We had a dicussion what to eat tonight. 5 people chose pizza, 4 wanted to cook me. Despite the pizza winning it seems there is still a serious problem" (or something like that).

It's true that politics has been untenably venomous and the only way back is to lay down our weapons and bury the dead but I see cowards and bullies on the run after a brutal and protracted battle my instinct is to to run them off their feet.

[Telconi]

Actually I agree. Mockery can be effective at cutting down those pretending to power they do not have. But it will not work on Trump. It will only make him more determined to cling onto the supreme achievement of his life (seriously). The only way it might get him out is by contributing to his suicide, which would be terrible thing.

I mean we can still mock him the usual amount, he won't notice that, but getting tens of millions involved can only lead to tragedy.

In addition, Bidens message of unity and Americans coming together will not reach its audience if people keep mocking Trump and his supporters.

Otoh, some people may not want that. As someone put it: "We had a dicussion what to eat tonight. 5 people chose pizza, 4 wanted to cook me. Despite the pizza winning it seems there is still a serious problem" (or something like that).

The people mocking Trump supporters are the intended audience of Biden's message.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Everyone seems to be going “YOU’RE FIIIRRREEED !!!” on social media, as if they were Vince McMahon.

Which is unwise seeing as the guy is still in power for two months.

Tell him he's getting a reverse two week notice. Well, more like two months.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

In addition, Bidens message of unity and Americans coming together will not reach its audience if people keep mocking Trump and his supporters.

Otoh, some people may not want that. As someone put it: "We had a dicussion what to eat tonight. 5 people chose pizza, 4 wanted to cook me. Despite the pizza winning it seems there is still a serious problem" (or something like that).

The people mocking Trump supporters are the intended audience of Biden's message.

Trump supporters deserve to be mocked, frankly.

You tied yourselves down to a deranged, racist imbecile that left 230,000+ Americans to die of a virus he completely ignored as he also mocked dead soldiers, bragged about sexually assaulting young girls, and even called you guys idiots to your faces (which caused you to cheer) while he stuffed his bank account full of your taxes and still somehow went broke. The past 4 years have just proven what most Americana already knew: Trump is a liar, a pervert, a bigot, a moron, and a psychopath.

And you stuck by him. Because he was "your guy" from "your party" or whatever other nonsense you use to justify it. You dismissed every gaffe and crime he committed as "fake news" or "taken out of context". So, yeah, sorry, you deserve to be mocked. Until the day you wake up and realize you were wrong, and then admit it, you deserve to be mocked.

I don't get what the people calling for "unity" expect. You've consistently displayed that you don't give a fuck about the facts, the law, or even human life - yet they somehow expect that by being respectful toward you they can sway you to reason. What a bunch of bullshit. Once you're in the Cult 45 the only way out is through your own efforts.

Until then, you will be mocked. You will be mocked until you realize why you're being mocked and why you deserve to be mocked. So spare me the "boohoo stop picking on me because I support Trump you guys" crap. You asked for this when you signed up with that lunatic and stood beside him through every act of evil and stupidity he committed to this day. Until you renounce him, you're going to be mocked. Deal with it.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

The people mocking Trump supporters are the intended audience of Biden's message.

Trump supporters deserve to be mocked, frankly.

You tied yourselves down to a deranged, racist imbecile that left 230,000+ Americans to die of a virus he completely ignored as he also mocked dead soldiers, bragged about sexually assaulting young girls, and even called you guys idiots to your faces (which caused you to cheer) while he stuffed his bank account full of your taxes and still somehow went broke. The past 4 years have just proven what most Americana already knew: Trump is a liar, a pervert, a bigot, a moron, and a psychopath.

And you stuck by him. Because he was "your guy" from "your party" or whatever other nonsense you use to justify it. You dismissed every gaffe and crime he committed as "fake news" or "taken out of context". So, yeah, sorry, you deserve to be mocked. Until the day you wake up and realize you were wrong, and then admit it, you deserve to be mocked.

I don't get what the people calling for "unity" expect. You've consistently displayed that you don't give a fuck about the facts, the law, or even human life - yet they somehow expect that by being respectful toward you they can sway you to reason. What a bunch of bullshit. Once you're in the Cult 45 the only way out is through your own efforts.

Until then, you will be mocked. You will be mocked until you realize why you're being mocked and why you deserve to be mocked. So spare me the "boohoo stop picking on me because I support Trump you guys" crap. You asked for this when you signed up with that lunatic and stood beside him through every act of evil and stupidity he committed to this day. Until you renounce him, you're going to be mocked. Deal with it.

^literally this. I know the compromise candidate Joe Biden is claiming he'll unite America, but there cannot be unity until the trumpsters change their ways. I'm not unifying with people who called my girlfriend before my last one a terrorist, called my last girlfriend a green card chaser, told me I should be deported, called me a commie, referred to my friend Caleb as "a disgusting nigger," or complained about all the "'rabs" in our town. Like sorry, I don't need to just accept a clan of bigots and their enablers back into an america with an open embrace. They chose to join team Trump now they can join him in the political shadow realm.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Trump supporters deserve to be mocked, frankly.

You tied yourselves down to a deranged, racist imbecile that left 230,000+ Americans to die of a virus he completely ignored as he also mocked dead soldiers, bragged about sexually assaulting young girls, and even called you guys idiots to your faces (which caused you to cheer) while he stuffed his bank account full of your taxes and still somehow went broke. The past 4 years have just proven what most Americana already knew: Trump is a liar, a pervert, a bigot, a moron, and a psychopath.

And you stuck by him. Because he was "your guy" from "your party" or whatever other nonsense you use to justify it. You dismissed every gaffe and crime he committed as "fake news" or "taken out of context". So, yeah, sorry, you deserve to be mocked. Until the day you wake up and realize you were wrong, and then admit it, you deserve to be mocked.

I don't get what the people calling for "unity" expect. You've consistently displayed that you don't give a fuck about the facts, the law, or even human life - yet they somehow expect that by being respectful toward you they can sway you to reason. What a bunch of bullshit. Once you're in the Cult 45 the only way out is through your own efforts.

Until then, you will be mocked. You will be mocked until you realize why you're being mocked and why you deserve to be mocked. So spare me the "boohoo stop picking on me because I support Trump you guys" crap. You asked for this when you signed up with that lunatic and stood beside him through every act of evil and stupidity he committed to this day. Until you renounce him, you're going to be mocked. Deal with it.

^literally this. I know the compromise candidate Joe Biden is claiming he'll unite America, but there cannot be unity until the trumpsters change their ways. I'm not unifying with people who called my girlfriend before my last one a terrorist, called my last girlfriend a green card chaser, told me I should be deported, called me a commie, referred to my friend Caleb as "a disgusting nigger," or complained about all the "'rabs" in our town. Like sorry, I don't need to just accept a clan of bigots and their enablers back into an america with an open embrace. They chose to join team Trump now they can join him in the political shadow realm.

I always thought I was blunt until I met you, Rojava. Now I realize I'm not as blunt as I thought I was. Never change.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

^literally this. I know the compromise candidate Joe Biden is claiming he'll unite America, but there cannot be unity until the trumpsters change their ways. I'm not unifying with people who called my girlfriend before my last one a terrorist, called my last girlfriend a green card chaser, told me I should be deported, called me a commie, referred to my friend Caleb as "a disgusting nigger," or complained about all the "'rabs" in our town. Like sorry, I don't need to just accept a clan of bigots and their enablers back into an america with an open embrace. They chose to join team Trump now they can join him in the political shadow realm.

I always thought I was blunt until I met you, Rojava. Now I realize I'm not as blunt as I thought I was. Never change.

Maybe a socialist party isn't enough. What we need is a pissed off and angry party.

Maybe. Then again thats what Trump turned the GOP into and it got kinda outta control.

[Minoa]

Which is unwise seeing as the guy is still in power for two months.

Tell him he's getting a reverse two week notice. Well, more like two months.

Perhaps a US equivalent of a P45, with a fixed termination date?

[The Alma Mater]

Trump supporters deserve to be mocked, frankly.

You tied yourselves down to a deranged, racist imbecile that left 230,000+ Americans to die of a virus he completely ignored as he also mocked dead soldiers, bragged about sexually assaulting young girls, and even called you guys idiots to your faces (which caused you to cheer) while he stuffed his bank account full of your taxes and still somehow went broke. The past 4 years have just proven what most Americana already knew: Trump is a liar, a pervert, a bigot, a moron, and a psychopath.

And you stuck by him. Because he was "your guy" from "your party" or whatever other nonsense you use to justify it. You dismissed every gaffe and crime he committed as "fake news" or "taken out of context". So, yeah, sorry, you deserve to be mocked. Until the day you wake up and realize you were wrong, and then admit it, you deserve to be mocked.

I don't get what the people calling for "unity" expect. You've consistently displayed that you don't give a fuck about the facts, the law, or even human life - yet they somehow expect that by being respectful toward you they can sway you to reason. What a bunch of bullshit. Once you're in the Cult 45 the only way out is through your own efforts.

Until then, you will be mocked. You will be mocked until you realize why you're being mocked and why you deserve to be mocked. So spare me the "boohoo stop picking on me because I support Trump you guys" crap. You asked for this when you signed up with that lunatic and stood beside him through every act of evil and stupidity he committed to this day. Until you renounce him, you're going to be mocked. Deal with it.

^literally this. I know the compromise candidate Joe Biden is claiming he'll unite America, but there cannot be unity until the trumpsters change their ways. I'm not unifying with people who called my girlfriend before my last one a terrorist, called my last girlfriend a green card chaser, told me I should be deported, called me a commie, referred to my friend Caleb as "a disgusting nigger," or complained about all the "'rabs" in our town. Like sorry, I don't need to just accept a clan of bigots and their enablers back into an america with an open embrace. They chose to join team Trump now they can join him in the political shadow realm.

I feel the irresistable urge to applaud both these posts.
So

[Des-Bal]

Trump supporters deserve to be mocked, frankly.

You tied yourselves down to a deranged, racist imbecile that left 230,000+ Americans to die of a virus he completely ignored as he also mocked dead soldiers, bragged about sexually assaulting young girls, and even called you guys idiots to your faces (which caused you to cheer) while he stuffed his bank account full of your taxes and still somehow went broke. The past 4 years have just proven what most Americana already knew: Trump is a liar, a pervert, a bigot, a moron, and a psychopath.

And you stuck by him. Because he was "your guy" from "your party" or whatever other nonsense you use to justify it. You dismissed every gaffe and crime he committed as "fake news" or "taken out of context". So, yeah, sorry, you deserve to be mocked. Until the day you wake up and realize you were wrong, and then admit it, you deserve to be mocked.

I don't get what the people calling for "unity" expect. You've consistently displayed that you don't give a fuck about the facts, the law, or even human life - yet they somehow expect that by being respectful toward you they can sway you to reason. What a bunch of bullshit. Once you're in the Cult 45 the only way out is through your own efforts.

Until then, you will be mocked. You will be mocked until you realize why you're being mocked and why you deserve to be mocked. So spare me the "boohoo stop picking on me because I support Trump you guys" crap. You asked for this when you signed up with that lunatic and stood beside him through every act of evil and stupidity he committed to this day. Until you renounce him, you're going to be mocked. Deal with it.

You can reunify, murder the opposition, or accept that it's coming back over and over and over until you pick a different option.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

One day we're gonna look back at MAGAthread as a thing of the past.

[San Lumen]

So a scenario like what I laid out is perfectly ok to you and something you’d endorse?

The scenario you laid out is hyperbolistic nonsense to justify unilateral action.

How is it hyperbole? Thats what total gridlock would lead to.

[Valrifell]

Crosspost from the 2020 thread but it's arguably more relevant here:

538's Clare Malone writes on the hollow, vapid, and contrarian nature of Trump's politics - and what that means for the future of American government.

A quote to summarize the gist of the article:

But Trump’s great insight was understanding and accepting that the GOP’s base didn’t care all that much about the party elite’s core ideology: taxes, small government, free trade. Rather, they connected with the cultural signifiers the party had so cleverly carved out: guns, political incorrectness, anti-abortion sentiment, etc. Trump won the GOP primaries by giving the people what they wanted. He blamed Mexicans for woes that were better attributed to the changing nature of the world economy, which left some places in America far behind, the result of complex decisions and electoral choices over decades. The GOP under Trump embraced the conspiracy theory as campaign rhetoric, reversed platform positions and generally abandoned its ideological core.

What was left was that contrarianism. The Democrats had Obamacare; the Republicans had “repeal and replace.” The mainstream press had facts; the GOP had a retort of “fake news.” And scientists had proof of climate change, while the GOP called efforts to reverse it “extremism” without offering an alternative solution.

I mean it's quite telling that the GOP didn't even bother with a platform and not a single Republican voter gave a single fuck.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Crosspost from the 2020 thread but it's arguably more relevant here:

538's Clare Malone writes on the hollow, vapid, and contrarian nature of Trump's politics - and what that means for the future of American government.

A quote to summarize the gist of the article:

But Trump’s great insight was understanding and accepting that the GOP’s base didn’t care all that much about the party elite’s core ideology: taxes, small government, free trade. Rather, they connected with the cultural signifiers the party had so cleverly carved out: guns, political incorrectness, anti-abortion sentiment, etc. Trump won the GOP primaries by giving the people what they wanted. He blamed Mexicans for woes that were better attributed to the changing nature of the world economy, which left some places in America far behind, the result of complex decisions and electoral choices over decades. The GOP under Trump embraced the conspiracy theory as campaign rhetoric, reversed platform positions and generally abandoned its ideological core.

What was left was that contrarianism. The Democrats had Obamacare; the Republicans had “repeal and replace.” The mainstream press had facts; the GOP had a retort of “fake news.” And scientists had proof of climate change, while the GOP called efforts to reverse it “extremism” without offering an alternative solution.

I mean it's quite telling that the GOP didn't even bother with a platform and not a single Republican voter gave a single fuck.

Their platform was "Fuck Biden." That's it.

[Glorious Hong Kong]

Trumpism is the only brand of conservatism that doesn’t value profits over everything, we ended foreign wars and upheld conservative Christian values

Hey, KK, remind me how many Chinese patents Ivanka got after daddy got the presidency...?
Also what Christian values lmfao

Trademarks, not patents

Does Ivanka Trump Hold a Trademark on Coffins in China?
In 2018, the United States' first daughter was awarded a variety of trademarks.

Dan Evon

Published 14 April 2020

Image via Getty Images/Stock photo
Claim

First daughter Ivanka Trump was granted a trademark on coffins in China and stands to profit from the COVID-19 pandemic.
Rating
Mixture
Mixture
About this rating
What's True

Ivanka Trump's company holds a variety of trademarks in China, including one for coffins.
What's False

However, this trademark was granted in 2018, well before the COVID-19 pandemic occurred. Moreover, Ivanka Trump shuttered her business in July 2018 to focus on work for the White House and there is no evidence she is involved in manufacturing or selling coffins in China or elsewhere.
Do you rely on Snopes reporting? Become a member today.
Origin

In April 2020, as the global death toll from the COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic surpassed 100,000, social media users started to post messages about how Ivanka Trump, U.S. President Donald Trump’s daughter and newly appointed member of the White House’s council to reopen America, had a trademark in China on coffins:

While some shared this claim as if it were a “fun fact,” others made a more direct connection between her company’s trademark on coffins in China to the rising death toll from the COVID-19 pandemic:

According to multiple news reports, the first daughter’s company, Ivanka Trump Marks LLC, was truly awarded a trademark on coffins in China. However, this occurred in 2018, long before COVID-19 started to spread around the globe.

The Associated Press reported in May 2018 that her company had been awarded 13 trademarks in China over three months. These trademarks covered a variety of products, including baby blankets, coffee, perfume, and coffins:

Ivanka Trump’s brand continues to win foreign trademarks in China and the Philippines, adding to questions about conflicts of interest at the White House, The Associated Press has found.

On Sunday, China granted the first daughter’s company final approval for its 13th trademark in the last three months, trademark office records show. Over the same period, the Chinese government has granted Ivanka Trump’s company provisional approval for another eight trademarks, which can be finalized if no objections are raised during a three-month comment period.

Taken together, the trademarks could allow her brand to market a lifetime’s worth of products in China, from baby blankets to coffins, and a host of things in between, including perfume, makeup, bowls, mirrors, furniture, books, coffee, chocolate and honey. Ivanka Trump stepped back from management of her brand and placed its assets in a family-run trust, but she continues to profit from the business.

When users in April 2020 re-shared news stories about her trademarks amidst the global pandemic, many insinuated she would be capitalizing off of people’s deaths, and that people in China would be required to purchase a Trump coffin. But that’s not the case.

This confusion appears to be based on the conflation of the terms “trademark” and “patent.” With a trademark, Ivanka Trump has the opportunity to sell products (in this case a coffin) bearing her company’s name. A trademark does not give Trump’s company any sort of exclusive deal to sell coffins in China. Other companies can still manufacturer and sell coffins just as always.

Australia’s ABC News noted that companies sometimes file for a trademark as part of a “defensive” strategy to prevent competitors from squatting on a brand’s name:

Companies register for trademarks for a variety of reasons. They can be a sign of corporate ambition, but in many countries, like China, where trademark squatting is rampant, companies also file defensively, to block copycats from grabbing legal rights to a brand’s name.

This appears to be the strategy of Ivanka Trump’s company. Abigail Klem, the president of the Ivanka Trump brand, said in a May 2018 statement that these trademarks were obtained during the “normal course of business.” Klem also noted that trademark infringement was rampant, and that the company was trying to protect its brand:

“The brand has filed, updated, and rigorously protected its international trademarks over the past several years in the normal course of business, especially in regions where trademark infringement is rampant. … We have recently seen a surge in trademark filings by unrelated third parties trying to capitalize on the name and it is our responsibility to diligently protect our trademark.”

It should also be noted that, as Snopes reported in 2019, Ivanka Trump was not running the company at the time that these trademarks were obtained. Ivanka stepped down from day-to-day operations in 2017 and announced that the company was closing down the following year:

Ivanka Trump said in a statement announcing the closure:

“After 17 months in Washington, I do not know when or if I will ever return to the business, but I do know that my focus for the foreseeable future will be the work I am doing here in Washington. So making this decision now is the only fair outcome for my team and partners.”

While Ivanka Trump may have not had a hand in obtaining these trademarks, the government transparency advocacy group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) cautioned that these trademarks could still represent a conflict of interest in the future.

CREW wrote:

Ivanka announced the immediate closure of her brand in July 2018, citing her official government responsibilities in Washington, DC. However, her trademarks remain a potential conflict of interest as she continues to work on policy in the White House and meet with foreign leaders.

To sum up: Ivanka Trump’s company obtained several trademarks in China in 2018 that covered a wide range of products, including baby blankets, perfume, and coffins. This trademark gives the company the opportunity to sell Trump-branded coffins and prevents other companies from using the Trump brand to sell their own coffins.

As of this writing, we’ve seen no reporting that Ivanka Trump’s company (which she no longer operates) plans to manufacture or sell coffins in China.

[CoraSpia]

Why compromise if you don't get anything for it?

Yes better to have total gridlock and nothing at all gets done.

That would be ideal, if Biden even struggled to get through his cabinet picks.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Hey, KK, remind me how many Chinese patents Ivanka got after daddy got the presidency...?
Also what Christian values lmfao

Trademarks, not patents

Does Ivanka Trump Hold a Trademark on Coffins in China?
In 2018, the United States' first daughter was awarded a variety of trademarks.

Dan Evon

Published 14 April 2020

Image via Getty Images/Stock photo
Claim

First daughter Ivanka Trump was granted a trademark on coffins in China and stands to profit from the COVID-19 pandemic.
Rating
Mixture
Mixture
About this rating
What's True

Ivanka Trump's company holds a variety of trademarks in China, including one for coffins.
What's False

However, this trademark was granted in 2018, well before the COVID-19 pandemic occurred. Moreover, Ivanka Trump shuttered her business in July 2018 to focus on work for the White House and there is no evidence she is involved in manufacturing or selling coffins in China or elsewhere.
Do you rely on Snopes reporting? Become a member today.
Origin

In April 2020, as the global death toll from the COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic surpassed 100,000, social media users started to post messages about how Ivanka Trump, U.S. President Donald Trump’s daughter and newly appointed member of the White House’s council to reopen America, had a trademark in China on coffins:

While some shared this claim as if it were a “fun fact,” others made a more direct connection between her company’s trademark on coffins in China to the rising death toll from the COVID-19 pandemic:

According to multiple news reports, the first daughter’s company, Ivanka Trump Marks LLC, was truly awarded a trademark on coffins in China. However, this occurred in 2018, long before COVID-19 started to spread around the globe.

The Associated Press reported in May 2018 that her company had been awarded 13 trademarks in China over three months. These trademarks covered a variety of products, including baby blankets, coffee, perfume, and coffins:

Ivanka Trump’s brand continues to win foreign trademarks in China and the Philippines, adding to questions about conflicts of interest at the White House, The Associated Press has found.

On Sunday, China granted the first daughter’s company final approval for its 13th trademark in the last three months, trademark office records show. Over the same period, the Chinese government has granted Ivanka Trump’s company provisional approval for another eight trademarks, which can be finalized if no objections are raised during a three-month comment period.

Taken together, the trademarks could allow her brand to market a lifetime’s worth of products in China, from baby blankets to coffins, and a host of things in between, including perfume, makeup, bowls, mirrors, furniture, books, coffee, chocolate and honey. Ivanka Trump stepped back from management of her brand and placed its assets in a family-run trust, but she continues to profit from the business.

When users in April 2020 re-shared news stories about her trademarks amidst the global pandemic, many insinuated she would be capitalizing off of people’s deaths, and that people in China would be required to purchase a Trump coffin. But that’s not the case.

This confusion appears to be based on the conflation of the terms “trademark” and “patent.” With a trademark, Ivanka Trump has the opportunity to sell products (in this case a coffin) bearing her company’s name. A trademark does not give Trump’s company any sort of exclusive deal to sell coffins in China. Other companies can still manufacturer and sell coffins just as always.

Australia’s ABC News noted that companies sometimes file for a trademark as part of a “defensive” strategy to prevent competitors from squatting on a brand’s name:

Companies register for trademarks for a variety of reasons. They can be a sign of corporate ambition, but in many countries, like China, where trademark squatting is rampant, companies also file defensively, to block copycats from grabbing legal rights to a brand’s name.

This appears to be the strategy of Ivanka Trump’s company. Abigail Klem, the president of the Ivanka Trump brand, said in a May 2018 statement that these trademarks were obtained during the “normal course of business.” Klem also noted that trademark infringement was rampant, and that the company was trying to protect its brand:

“The brand has filed, updated, and rigorously protected its international trademarks over the past several years in the normal course of business, especially in regions where trademark infringement is rampant. … We have recently seen a surge in trademark filings by unrelated third parties trying to capitalize on the name and it is our responsibility to diligently protect our trademark.”

It should also be noted that, as Snopes reported in 2019, Ivanka Trump was not running the company at the time that these trademarks were obtained. Ivanka stepped down from day-to-day operations in 2017 and announced that the company was closing down the following year:

Ivanka Trump said in a statement announcing the closure:

“After 17 months in Washington, I do not know when or if I will ever return to the business, but I do know that my focus for the foreseeable future will be the work I am doing here in Washington. So making this decision now is the only fair outcome for my team and partners.”

While Ivanka Trump may have not had a hand in obtaining these trademarks, the government transparency advocacy group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) cautioned that these trademarks could still represent a conflict of interest in the future.

CREW wrote:

Ivanka announced the immediate closure of her brand in July 2018, citing her official government responsibilities in Washington, DC. However, her trademarks remain a potential conflict of interest as she continues to work on policy in the White House and meet with foreign leaders.

To sum up: Ivanka Trump’s company obtained several trademarks in China in 2018 that covered a wide range of products, including baby blankets, perfume, and coffins. This trademark gives the company the opportunity to sell Trump-branded coffins and prevents other companies from using the Trump brand to sell their own coffins.

As of this writing, we’ve seen no reporting that Ivanka Trump’s company (which she no longer operates) plans to manufacture or sell coffins in China.

And that's somehow better?

[San Lumen]

Yes better to have total gridlock and nothing at all gets done.

That would be ideal, if Biden even struggled to get through his cabinet picks.

No it would not.

[CoraSpia]

That would be ideal, if Biden even struggled to get through his cabinet picks.

No it would not.

Nothing would get done.

[San Lumen]

No it would not.

Nothing would get done.

And that would be terrible and cause harm to many people

[CoraSpia]

Nothing would get done.

And that would be terrible and cause harm to many people

No it would not.

[San Lumen]

And that would be terrible and cause harm to many people

No it would not.

Yes it would. No cabinet picks means executive offices cant do anything. No budget means government shutdown. Federal workers don’t get paid and are laid off. Parks close, social security checks don’t go out, food stamps don’t get sent, soldiers don’t get paid among many other things.

[Kexholm Karelia]

Trump supporters deserve to be mocked, frankly.

You tied yourselves down to a deranged, racist imbecile that left 230,000+ Americans to die of a virus he completely ignored as he also mocked dead soldiers, bragged about sexually assaulting young girls, and even called you guys idiots to your faces (which caused you to cheer) while he stuffed his bank account full of your taxes and still somehow went broke. The past 4 years have just proven what most Americana already knew: Trump is a liar, a pervert, a bigot, a moron, and a psychopath.

And you stuck by him. Because he was "your guy" from "your party" or whatever other nonsense you use to justify it. You dismissed every gaffe and crime he committed as "fake news" or "taken out of context". So, yeah, sorry, you deserve to be mocked. Until the day you wake up and realize you were wrong, and then admit it, you deserve to be mocked.

I don't get what the people calling for "unity" expect. You've consistently displayed that you don't give a fuck about the facts, the law, or even human life - yet they somehow expect that by being respectful toward you they can sway you to reason. What a bunch of bullshit. Once you're in the Cult 45 the only way out is through your own efforts.

Until then, you will be mocked. You will be mocked until you realize why you're being mocked and why you deserve to be mocked. So spare me the "boohoo stop picking on me because I support Trump you guys" crap. You asked for this when you signed up with that lunatic and stood beside him through every act of evil and stupidity he committed to this day. Until you renounce him, you're going to be mocked. Deal with it.

^literally this. I know the compromise candidate Joe Biden is claiming he'll unite America, but there cannot be unity until the trumpsters change their ways. I'm not unifying with people who called my girlfriend before my last one a terrorist, called my last girlfriend a green card chaser, told me I should be deported, called me a commie, referred to my friend Caleb as "a disgusting nigger," or complained about all the "'rabs" in our town. Like sorry, I don't need to just accept a clan of bigots and their enablers back into an america with an open embrace. They chose to join team Trump now they can join him in the political shadow realm.

Both of these are strawmen that don’t describe the vast majority of Trump supporters lol

[CoraSpia]

No it would not.

Yes it would. No cabinet picks means executive offices cant do anything. No budget means government shutdown. Federal workers don’t get paid and are laid off. Parks close, social security checks don’t go out, food stamps don’t get sent, soldiers don’t get paid among many other things.

so all of government activity shudders to a grinding stop.