MAGAThread XVII: All Things NOT Impeachment

[Zurkerx]

He should but the House did not issue him a subpoena so he's under no obligation to do so. Democrats have sufficient evidence and as much as they would like his testimony, the underlining argument has been proven: Trump used his position of power to solicit a foreign government to investigate a political opponent. Of course, I think the Democrats are playing the long game when it comes to Bolton: they know a court will uphold the inquiry for Bolton and Kupperman's case, they're just hoping it's done quickly because if it is and it's in the House's favor, then Bolton will come.

Then just issue him a subpoena and be done with it.

Your fellow Democrats in the House have decided against it. Take it up with them for why they didn't.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Then just issue him a subpoena and be done with it.

I wonder if Adam Schiff has thought of that?

Farnhamia I have chosen this Nation to Post on all Trump Megathreads. I have Posed before from this Nation on this Thread. I can see all 18 or more nations that might have a Problem with me Posting to them from all my main nations. quoting and Linking to them. They have not Put any of my main Nations they know very well on the ignore list.

I will Post on my New UN Cuban Embargo Thread from my NS Miami Nation of which I am the OP.

I am sure biased Partisan Democrat Adam Schiff has thought of everything. I would not Put anything over him lol.

[Farnhamia]

I wonder if Adam Schiff has thought of that?

Farnhamia I have chosen this Nation to Post on all Trump Megathreads. I have Posed before from this Nation on this Thread. I can see all 18 or more nations that might have a Problem with me Posting to them from all my main nations. quoting and Linking to them. They have not Put any of my main Nations they know very well on the ignore list.

I will Post on my New UN Cuban Embargo Thread from my NS Miami Nation of which I am the OP.

By now, you're the only one who cares.

I am sure biased Partisan Democrat Adam Schiff has thought of everything. I would not Put anything over him lol.

I was being sarcastic.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Farnhamia I have chosen this Nation to Post on all Trump Megathreads. I have Posed before from this Nation on this Thread. I can see all 18 or more nations that might have a Problem with me Posting to them from all my main nations. quoting and Linking to them. They have not Put any of my main Nations they know very well on the ignore list.

I will Post on my New UN Cuban Embargo Thread from my NS Miami Nation of which I am the OP.

By now, you're the only one who cares.

I am sure biased Partisan Democrat Adam Schiff has thought of everything. I would not Put anything over him lol.

I was being sarcastic.

I know I am the only one who cares, at least 99 % of the Posters on this thread are anti President Trump. I know you were being sarcastic, I but I am not lol.

lol is my favorite expression not necessarily a lol all the time.

Thank you for Posting to me.

[Gravlen]

Because he’s covering his ass. If executive privilege coves impeachment then Bolton and others could be in trouble if they talk to congress

In trouble how?

He's a Republican loyalist. He might get in trouble with the base if it looks like he's voluntarily taking part in the impeachment process. If he can say he had no choice, that's a defence he can use when he's running for office at a later date.

Compare with the Republican PAC running ads against Jeff Sessions right now, calling him a traitor.

[San Lumen]

In trouble how?

He's a Republican loyalist. He might get in trouble with the base if it looks like he's voluntarily taking part in the impeachment process. If he can say he had no choice, that's a defence he can use when he's running for office at a later date.

Compare with the Republican PAC running ads against Jeff Sessions right now, calling him a traitor.

in trouble how? he's not a White House Employee anymore.

[Farnhamia]

By now, you're the only one who cares.


I was being sarcastic.

I know I am the only one who cares, at least 99 % of the Posters on this thread are anti President Trump. I know you were being sarcastic, I but I am not lol.

lol is my favorite expression not necessarily a lol all the time.

Thank you for Posting to me.

I'll tell you what, the "lol" is annoying. If you want people to take you even a little bit seriously, stop using it so much. Also, stop piling on the adjectives like "biased Partisan Democrat." Everyone posting in this thread knows he's a Democrat and his bias and partisanship are relative. You're always civil. Now try being an adult and answer some of the questions put to you instead of just repeating talking points.

[Greater Miami Shores]

In trouble how?

He's a Republican loyalist. He might get in trouble if it looks like he's voluntarily taking part in the impeachment process. If he can say he had no choice, that's a defence he can use when he's running for office at a later date.

Compare with the Republican PAC running ads against Jeff Sessions right now, calling him a traitor.

Gravlen has not Put any of my main nations on ignore, if he wishes to he can tell me now so I know and he will not have to put any of my nations on ignore. He can also send me a decent TG stating so and I will honor his wishes and decision. I don't put any nation on ignore nor do I ask them not to post to me, quote to me or link to me for any reasons, but this is me or I which ever fits lol.

Joke: My English not very good lol, as our beloved the Late Celia Cruz used to say. Rest in Peace Celia Azúcar Celia Azucar. Sugar Celia Sugar.

The Late Native Cuban and Cuban American Celia Cruz is an Afro Cuban in Cuba the term Afro Cuban is not a racist word or Phrase. Now to the related Thread Post comments.

I hope John Bolton as a Republican Loyalist will defend President Trump. Will not let the Democrats get away with this Political coup d'état against President Trump. I could have used stronger phrases or all the Phrases.

You all Probably know.

[San Lumen]

He's a Republican loyalist. He might get in trouble if it looks like he's voluntarily taking part in the impeachment process. If he can say he had no choice, that's a defence he can use when he's running for office at a later date.

Compare with the Republican PAC running ads against Jeff Sessions right now, calling him a traitor.

Gravlen has not Put any of my main nations on ignore, if he wishes to he can tell me now so I know and he will not have to put any of my nations on ignore. He can also send me a decent TG stating so and I will honor his wishes and decision. I don't put any nation on ignore nor do I ask them not to post to me, quote to me or link to me for any reasons, but this is me or I which ever fits lol.

Joke: My English not very good lol, as our beloved the Late Celia Cruz used to say. Rest in Peace Celia Azúcar Celia Azucar. Sugar Celia Sugar.

The Late Native Cuban and Cuban American Celia Cruz was is an Afro Cuban in Cuba the term Afro Cuban is not a racist world or Phrase. Now to the related Thread Post comments.

I hope Joh Bolton as a Republican Loyalist will defend President Trump. Will not let the Democrats get away with this Political coup d'état against President Trump. I could have used stronger phrases or all the Phrases.

You all Probably know.

Yes he should commit perjury like you've implied everyone else has done. You are aware that is a crime. How is it coup? He asked for foreign assistance in an election and not only did it on a phone call but did it on camera in front of cameras. You seriously have no issue with that?

[Greater Miami Shores]

Gravlen has not Put any of my main nations on ignore, if he wishes to he can tell me now so I know and he will not have to put any of my nations on ignore. He can also send me a decent TG stating so and I will honor his wishes and decision. I don't put any nation on ignore nor do I ask them not to post to me, quote to me or link to me for any reasons, but this is me or I which ever fits lol.

Joke: My English not very good lol, as our beloved the Late Celia Cruz used to say. Rest in Peace Celia Azúcar Celia Azucar. Sugar Celia Sugar.

The Late Native Cuban and Cuban American Celia Cruz was is an Afro Cuban in Cuba the term Afro Cuban is not a racist world or Phrase. Now to the related Thread Post comments.

I hope Joh Bolton as a Republican Loyalist will defend President Trump. Will not let the Democrats get away with this Political coup d'état against President Trump. I could have used stronger phrases or all the Phrases.

You all Probably know.

Yes he should commit perjury like you've implied everyone else has done. You are aware that is a crime. How is it coup? He asked for foreign assistance in an election and not only did it on a phone call but did it on camera in front of cameras. You seriously have no issue with that?

This is not what I said San Lumen. I am saying President Trump is innocent of an impeachable crime. Nothing has been proven beyond a doubt and hearsay against Donnie. We disagree Politically and their is nothing wrong with that.

I am Pleased that we are still on talking terms. Thank you for your Post San Lumen.

[Gravlen]

He's a Republican loyalist. He might get in trouble with the base if it looks like he's voluntarily taking part in the impeachment process. If he can say he had no choice, that's a defence he can use when he's running for office at a later date.

Compare with the Republican PAC running ads against Jeff Sessions right now, calling him a traitor.

in trouble how? he's not a White House Employee anymore.

- Like Jeff Sessions.

- That might not matter to the electorate.

[Gravlen]

I hope John Bolton as a Republican Loyalist will defend President Trump.

Those two positions might not overlap.

[Greater Miami Shores]

in trouble how? he's not a White House Employee anymore.

- Like Jeff Sessions.

- That might not matter to the electorate.

I strongly disagree with the Republican Pacs running ads against Jeff Sessions. As a Republican I support Jeff Sessions and believe in Jeff Sessions. Just as most Democrats support and believe in Democrats.

[Greater Miami Shores]

I hope John Bolton as a Republican Loyalist will defend President Trump.

Those two positions might not overlap.

You might be right Gravlen but I hope not.

[Spirit of Hope]

Yes he should commit perjury like you've implied everyone else has done. You are aware that is a crime. How is it coup? He asked for foreign assistance in an election and not only did it on a phone call but did it on camera in front of cameras. You seriously have no issue with that?

This is not what I said San Lumen. I am saying President Trump is innocent of an impeachable crime.

Any crime is an impeachable crime, there in fact doesn't even have to be a crime for impeachment to happen.

Nothing has been proven beyond a doubt and hearsay against Donnie.

That is why we conduct investigations. The House is investigating President Trump. You do not require prof beyond a reasonable doubt to begin an investigation.

[Greater Miami Shores]

This is not what I said San Lumen. I am saying President Trump is innocent of an impeachable crime.

Any crime is an impeachable crime, there in fact doesn't even have to be a crime for impeachment to happen.

Nothing has been proven beyond a doubt and hearsay against Donnie.

That is why we conduct investigations. The House is investigating President Trump. You do not require prof beyond a reasonable doubt to begin an investigation.

As I have said the House Democrats have other motivations. I believe President Trump has not committed any impeachable crimes.

[Spirit of Hope]

Any crime is an impeachable crime, there in fact doesn't even have to be a crime for impeachment to happen.



That is why we conduct investigations. The House is investigating President Trump. You do not require prof beyond a reasonable doubt to begin an investigation.

As I have said the House Democrats have other motivations. I believe President Trump has not committed any impeachable crimes.

House Democrats can have whatever motives they want, they still have the legal power to investigate the President.

As a side not you say that President Trump hasn't committed any impeachable crimes, does that mean you believe he has committed crimes?

[Greater Miami Shores]

As I have said the House Democrats have other motivations. I believe President Trump has not committed any impeachable crimes.

House Democrats can have whatever motives they want, they still have the legal power to investigate the President.

As a side not you say that President Trump hasn't committed any impeachable crimes, does that mean you believe he has committed crimes?

If I understand you correctly, and please remember my English not very good (joke). Yes I really do believe President Trump has not committed any impeachable crimes worth impeaching any President or world leader for.

[Spirit of Hope]

House Democrats can have whatever motives they want, they still have the legal power to investigate the President.

As a side not you say that President Trump hasn't committed any impeachable crimes, does that mean you believe he has committed crimes?

If I understand you correctly, and please remember my English not very good (joke). Yes I really do believe President Trump has not committed any impeachable crimes worth impeaching any President or world leader for.

The question is not: has President Trump committed an impeccable crimes. I already know your answer is No.

The question is: Has President Trump committed any crimes while President?

[Greater Miami Shores]

If I understand you correctly, and please remember my English not very good (joke). Yes I really do believe President Trump has not committed any impeachable crimes worth impeaching any President or world leader for.

The question is not: has President Trump committed an impeccable crimes. I already know your answer is No.

The question is: Has President Trump committed any crimes while President?

oh, well I don't know of any particular crimes as President. But if he has, all Presidents Democrats and Republicans have been charged by the media with committing crimes that no President was ever charged for by congress.

Perhaps you saw my post on this on this thread.

Now Republican President Ronald Reagan during the Iran Contra scandal, I had to defend him on it. Because the Democrats in congress at the time including Bernie Sanders supported the Sandinista communist socialists and the Cuban regime. If it were not for Iran Contra, all of Central America would have become another Cuba, as it has been practiced in Cuba and all over the world. We would have seen millions of extra Central American refugees. Far worse than if the Sandinistas and Cuban regime would have succeed.

So in this Particular case the means justified the ends. What the Democrats in congress at the time and Bernie Sanders should have done is support Republican President Ronald Reagan against the Sandinista Communist Socialists and the Cuban regime, and their would never have been an Iran Contra,

I used to work with 2 North Koreans, a Vietnamese Lady and a Nicaraguan Lady, during our one hour long break we used to talk in English and share stories about our nations, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam and Sandinista communist socialist Nicaragua and we found out we have a lot in common.

The Nicaraguan Lady was a young university student at the time and was sent to Cuba for at least 2 years as so called voluntary labor on Cuban government farms. She had to sing and hchant pro revolutionary songs like No Pasaran, they Shall not Pass. She lost her 3 brothers fighting for the Nicaraguan Contras against the Sandinista communist socialists.

The Vietnamese Lady s favorite saying is what I love most about America is the Freedoms, and that in America we are all Americans.

[True Refuge]

The question is not: has President Trump committed an impeccable crimes. I already know your answer is No.

The question is: Has President Trump committed any crimes while President?

oh, well I don't know of any particular crimes as President. But if he has, all Presidents Democrats and Republicans have been charged by the media with committing crimes that no President was ever charged for by congress.

Perhaps you saw my post on this on this thread.

Now Republican President Ronald Reagan during the Iran Contra scandal, I had to defend him on it. Because the Democrats in congress at the time including Bernie Sanders supported the Sandinista communist socialists and the Cuban regime. If it were not for Iran Contra, all of Central America would have become another Cuba, as it has been practiced in Cuba and all over the world. We would have seen millions of extra Central American refugees. Far worse than if the Sandinistas and Cuban regime would have succeed.

So in this Particular case the means justified the ends. What the Democrats in congress at the time and Bernie Sanders should have done is support Republican President Ronald Reagan against the Sandinista Communist Socialists and the Cuban regime, and their would never have been an Iran Contra,

I used to work with 2 North Koreans, a Vietnamese Lady and a Nicaraguan Lady, during our one hour long break we used to talk in English and share stories about our nations, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam and Sandinista communist socialist Nicaragua and we found out we have a lot in common.

The Nicaraguan Lady was a young university student at the time and was sent to Cuba for at least 2 years as so called voluntary labor on Cuban government farms. She had to sing and hchant pro revolutionary songs like No Pasaran, they Shall not Pass. She lost her 3 brothers fighting for the Nicaraguan Contras against the Sandinista communist socialists.

The Vietnamese Lady s favorite saying is what I love most about America is the Freedoms, and that in America we are all Americans.

The mental gymnastics required to victim-blame the Democrats for Iran-Contra is astonishing.

Secretly going against the will of a democratically elected government to achieve goals without popular support is about as undemocratic as you can get without declaring the end of American democracy. Doesn’t matter who Iran-Contra stopped. It undermined the checks and balances of the American government.

[The Black Forrest]

I know I am the only one who cares, at least 99 % of the Posters on this thread are anti President Trump. I know you were being sarcastic, I but I am not lol.

lol is my favorite expression not necessarily a lol all the time.

Thank you for Posting to me.

I'll tell you what, the "lol" is annoying. If you want people to take you even a little bit seriously, stop using it so much. Also, stop piling on the adjectives like "biased Partisan Democrat." Everyone posting in this thread knows he's a Democrat and his bias and partisanship are relative. You're always civil. Now try being an adult and answer some of the questions put to you instead of just repeating talking points.

Yes mom....oh wait you don’t mean me!

*happy dance*

[Greater Miami Shores]

oh, well I don't know of any particular crimes as President. But if he has, all Presidents Democrats and Republicans have been charged by the media with committing crimes that no President was ever charged for by congress.

Perhaps you saw my post on this on this thread.

Now Republican President Ronald Reagan during the Iran Contra scandal, I had to defend him on it. Because the Democrats in congress at the time including Bernie Sanders supported the Sandinista communist socialists and the Cuban regime. If it were not for Iran Contra, all of Central America would have become another Cuba, as it has been practiced in Cuba and all over the world. We would have seen millions of extra Central American refugees. Far worse than if the Sandinistas and Cuban regime would have succeed.

So in this Particular case the means justified the ends. What the Democrats in congress at the time and Bernie Sanders should have done is support Republican President Ronald Reagan against the Sandinista Communist Socialists and the Cuban regime, and their would never have been an Iran Contra,

I used to work with 2 North Koreans, a Vietnamese Lady and a Nicaraguan Lady, during our one hour long break we used to talk in English and share stories about our nations, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam and Sandinista communist socialist Nicaragua and we found out we have a lot in common.

The Nicaraguan Lady was a young university student at the time and was sent to Cuba for at least 2 years as so called voluntary labor on Cuban government farms. She had to sing and hchant pro revolutionary songs like No Pasaran, they Shall not Pass. She lost her 3 brothers fighting for the Nicaraguan Contras against the Sandinista communist socialists.

The Vietnamese Lady s favorite saying is what I love most about America is the Freedoms, and that in America we are all Americans.

The mental gymnastics required to victim-blame the Democrats for Iran-Contra is astonishing.

Secretly going against the will of a democratically elected government to achieve goals without popular support is about as undemocratic as you can get without declaring the end of American democracy. Doesn’t matter who Iran-Contra stopped. It undermined the checks and balances of the American government.

I hope you see and read this post. I am not making any of this up, you can agree with me or disagree with me, and their is nothing wrong with that.

I will post about this on my US Cuban Embargo thread eventually.

True Refuge Please take my word for it based on Personal experience you would have liked to live in Sandinista communist socialist Nicaragua or Cuba as an average Nicaraguan citizen or as an average Cuban citizen.

Just because they so called have free education and health care. You must have seen my posts on my Cuba threads, but perhaps not. Nothing is really free of charge in this world.

A few years ago, I read an article on Granma the legally registered independent non governmental news organization of the legally registered independent non governmental communist party of Cuba lol, this deserves a lol in this case.

Stating the Compañero Comrades of today don't understand the reasons for the lower wages is because of the triumphs of the revolution, free education and health care and the evil economic embargo blockade, despite the Cuban regime trading with almost all nations of the world and receiving at least 4 million foreign tourists per year with hard currency money.

Cuban Americans and Cubans all over the world send family remittances and care packages to their families in Cuba, including food, goods, medicines and even toilet paper. Because the Cuban regime does not provide enough for the Cuban people. I remember in Cuba eating water mixed with Brown Sugar for breakfast every day for a long time. I was lucky I did not get any parasites.

My guy Cuban cousin the one I have posted about many times that emigrated to Miami and the USA the right way. who told me be careful what you say about our family in Cuba, because if the Cuban government finds out who you are, they can make life hell for our family in Cuba, when I showed him and told him all about NS which we all love. My cousin did not have to tell me that, but it is good he reminded me.

He was an architect in Cuba for the Cuban Government. He had to work for the Cuban government for x numbers of years at a lower wage to repay the Cuban revolution for his so called free education. Most Americans and Foreigners don't know this. I am not making any of this up.

[Farnhamia]

The question is not: has President Trump committed an impeccable crimes. I already know your answer is No.

The question is: Has President Trump committed any crimes while President?

oh, well I don't know of any particular crimes as President. But if he has, all Presidents Democrats and Republicans have been charged by the media with committing crimes that no President was ever charged for by congress.

Perhaps you saw my post on this on this thread.

Now Republican President Ronald Reagan during the Iran Contra scandal, I had to defend him on it. Because the Democrats in congress at the time including Bernie Sanders supported the Sandinista communist socialists and the Cuban regime. If it were not for Iran Contra, all of Central America would have become another Cuba, as it has been practiced in Cuba and all over the world. We would have seen millions of extra Central American refugees. Far worse than if the Sandinistas and Cuban regime would have succeed.

So in this Particular case the means justified the ends. What the Democrats in congress at the time and Bernie Sanders should have done is support Republican President Ronald Reagan against the Sandinista Communist Socialists and the Cuban regime, and their would never have been an Iran Contra,

I used to work with 2 North Koreans, a Vietnamese Lady and a Nicaraguan Lady, during our one hour long break we used to talk in English and share stories about our nations, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam and Sandinista communist socialist Nicaragua and we found out we have a lot in common.

The Nicaraguan Lady was a young university student at the time and was sent to Cuba for at least 2 years as so called voluntary labor on Cuban government farms. She had to sing and hchant pro revolutionary songs like No Pasaran, they Shall not Pass. She lost her 3 brothers fighting for the Nicaraguan Contras against the Sandinista communist socialists.

The Vietnamese Lady s favorite saying is what I love most about America is the Freedoms, and that in America we are all Americans.

The Boland Amendment is a term describing three U.S. legislative amendments between 1982 and 1984, all aimed at limiting U.S. government assistance to the Contras in Nicaragua. The first Boland Amendment was part of the House Appropriations Bill of 1982, which was attached as a rider to the Defense Appropriations Act of 1983, named for the Massachusetts Democrat, Representative Edward Boland, who authored it. The House of Representatives passed the Defense Appropriations Act 411–0 on December 8, 1982 and it was signed by President Ronald Reagan on December 21, 1982.[1] The amendment outlawed U.S. assistance to the Contras for the purpose of overthrowing the Nicaraguan government, while allowing assistance for other purposes.[2]

That means that everyone in the House - all the Democrats and all the Republicans - voted for it. Oh, and Bernie Sanders wasn't elected to the House until 1990.

[Greater Miami Shores]

I'll tell you what, the "lol" is annoying. If you want people to take you even a little bit seriously, stop using it so much. Also, stop piling on the adjectives like "biased Partisan Democrat." Everyone posting in this thread knows he's a Democrat and his bias and partisanship are relative. You're always civil. Now try being an adult and answer some of the questions put to you instead of just repeating talking points.

Yes mom....oh wait you don’t mean me!

*happy dance*

Good joke Black Forest lol. In this particular case the lol fit the post because of the good Joke. I gave credit were credit is due.

What I have noticed on all your leftists posts is you all agree with each other on President Trump bad. You all discuss the issue from the perspective that President Trump is guilty as charged, tried and convicted by the Democrats. From your Political Perspectives their is nothing wrong with that, it is correct.