What is America's breaking point?

[West Leas Oros 2]

Damn, it's almost like you have literally no idea what leftism is.

lol, I do as it has been practiced all over the world and in Cuba.

I was talking to Rainbow, not you.

[New haven america]

commit to any form of social change because they're more worried about rent

Yeah only one of those leaves me homeless so I don't see the issue.

If Hong Kongers are able to protest and march for weeks on end despite being in a worse economic situation then we are, then you can too.

That is not an excuse anymore, I'm sorry.

[Grand Britannia]

Yeah only one of those leaves me homeless so I don't see the issue.

If Hong Kongers are able to protest and march for weeks on end despite being in a worse economic situation then we are, then you can too.

That is not an excuse anymore, I'm sorry.

We're not in a situation where the government might or might not decide to trample me with tanks, sorry.

[Tokora]

Excuse me, but what did I just read?

My friend please be respect english are not mother tongue please not disrespectate mockery. I am consider meaning are evident

Just curious, what is your first language and is your country led by a right-wing nutjob too (only assuming you haven't recently immigrated to the US of course)?

if u dont like the country ur in then get out

You do realize that the reason America exists is so that people who were persecuted in their home countries for their religious and politically beliefs right? Anti-immigrant groups who value a white anti-catholic state with closed borders and want to be rid of foreigners by any means basically believe that America shouldn't exist in the first place.

Dude, I have posted before nothing insults me anymore, and I learned that the hard way on NS, I don't care what anyone calls me or says about me, it doesn't phase me.

just saying... liberals are often softballs

Because whenever a Republican hears even the slightest criticism of Trump they always have a good natured laugh and politely admit that he has some flaws like any other candidate without getting defensive.

>imagine thinking any president of the united states was a leftist lmao

As an American I can unironically verify that many people think that Mussolini and Hitler were leftists. The country is that far to the right.

lol, I do as it has been practiced all over the world and in Cuba.

Exactly. And in Russia and China where they put you in a jail if you speak out against them. I am conservative but cannot support trump

Forgive me if I misunderstood the context of your conversation, but based on how I read it you do realize that both Russia and China are capitalist right?

This thread has passed it's breaking point.

Its driving me mentally unstable, ngl

Sorry for doing that to you, I just really wanted to know if Americans were capable of reacting to the loss of their democracy at all should that ever happen in the future (not necessarily in the next four years).

[Miami Shores]

My friend please be respect english are not mother tongue please not disrespectate mockery. I am consider meaning are evident

Just curious, what is your first language and is your country led by a right-wing nutjob too (only assuming you haven't recently immigrated to the US of course)?

if u dont like the country ur in then get out

You do realize that the reason America exists is so that people who were persecuted in their home countries for their religious and politically beliefs right? Anti-immigrant groups who value a white anti-catholic state with closed borders and want to be rid of foreigners by any means basically believe that America shouldn't exist in the first place.

just saying... liberals are often softballs

Because whenever a Republican hears even the slightest criticism of Trump they always have a good natured laugh and politely admit that he has some flaws like any other candidate without getting defensive.

>imagine thinking any president of the united states was a leftist lmao

As an American I can unironically verify that many people think that Mussolini and Hitler were leftists. The country is that far to the right.

Exactly. And in Russia and China where they put you in a jail if you speak out against them. I am conservative but cannot support trump

Forgive me if I misunderstood the context of your conversation, but based on how I read it you do realize that both Russia and China are capitalist right?

Its driving me mentally unstable, ngl

Sorry for doing that to you, I just really wanted to know if Americans were capable of reacting to the loss of their democracy at all should that ever happen in the future (not necessarily in the next four years).

I don't even know where to begin to respond, I think the best way is post by post where necessary and possible, lol America is a democracy under President Trump, this will do for now, I have a very busy time tonight with the leftist Presidential debate in real life and my RP on it.

[New haven america]

If Hong Kongers are able to protest and march for weeks on end despite being in a worse economic situation then we are, then you can too.

That is not an excuse anymore, I'm sorry.

We're not in a situation where the government might or might not decide to trample me with tanks, sorry.

If anything, that would make the average person in America less likely to go out and protest, but in Hong Kong they've been doing it for weeks on end.

So no, not an excuse, try again.

[Miami Shores]

We're not in a situation where the government might or might not decide to trample me with tanks, sorry.

If anything, that would make the average person in America less likely to go out and protest, but in Hong Kong they've been doing it for weeks on end.

So no, not an excuse, try again.

Their is no need in America to protest for freedom like in Hong Kong, Cuba and Venezuela, America is a democracy under President Trump.

[New haven america]

If anything, that would make the average person in America less likely to go out and protest, but in Hong Kong they've been doing it for weeks on end.

So no, not an excuse, try again.

Their is no need in America to protest for freedom like in Hong Kong, Cuba and Venezuela, America is a democracy under President Trump.

Funny, considering Trump supporters 3 years ago were screaming about how America isn't a democracy.

[Cekoviu]

My friend please be respect english are not mother tongue please not disrespectate mockery. I am consider meaning are evident

Just curious, what is your first language and is your country led by a right-wing nutjob too (only assuming you haven't recently immigrated to the US of course)?

They've said that their native language is some variety of Chinese and they use Google Translate, hence the general preservation of Mandarin-ish syntax in their posts.

[Grand Proudhonia]

Also don't let the current political landscape make you forget that the patriot act is still in full effect

[Takso]

Also don't let the current political landscape make you forget that the patriot act is still in full effect

Good, it is absolutely necessary.

[Telconi]

We're not in a situation where the government might or might not decide to trample me with tanks, sorry.

If anything, that would make the average person in America less likely to go out and protest, but in Hong Kong they've been doing it for weeks on end.

So no, not an excuse, try again.

There's nothing happening worth protesting.

[Bear Stearns]

We're rather quickly approaching the "Bleeding Kansas" stage of the next civil war.

[Ethel mermania]

We're rather quickly approaching the "Bleeding Kansas" stage of the next civil war.

Bring back Popular Sovereignty!

[Cekoviu]

Also don't let the current political landscape make you forget that the patriot act is still in full effect

Good, it is absolutely necessary.

Wow, I don't think I've ever seen someone support that before. Maybe that's because it's shit legislation and shouldn't exist.

If anything, that would make the average person in America less likely to go out and protest, but in Hong Kong they've been doing it for weeks on end.

So no, not an excuse, try again.

There's nothing happening worth protesting.

I'm guessing you're white, have no gender but are also not agender, and live under a rock?

[Farnhamia]

We're rather quickly approaching the "Bleeding Kansas" stage of the next civil war.

No, we're not.

[Bear Stearns]

Good, it is absolutely necessary.

Wow, I don't think I've ever seen someone support that before. Maybe that's because it's shit legislation and shouldn't exist.

There's nothing happening worth protesting.

I'm guessing you're white, have no gender but are also not agender, and live under a rock?

White people have absolutely no reason to complain in America, right? Just shut up and take it, honky.

[Cekoviu]

Wow, I don't think I've ever seen someone support that before. Maybe that's because it's shit legislation and shouldn't exist.

I'm guessing you're white, have no gender but are also not agender, and live under a rock?

White people have absolutely no reason to complain in America, right? Just shut up and take it, honky.

I love how you just read the first of three different things, drew a wildly inaccurate conclusion from that, and stopped there. It's really charming.

[Grand Britannia]

Their is no need in America to protest for freedom like in Hong Kong, Cuba and Venezuela, America is a democracy under President Trump.

Funny, considering Trump supporters 3 years ago were screaming about how America isn't a democracy.

Uh no, we're not. We have democratic elements and institutions but we're not a complete democracy.

Definitely more democratic than China. There's literally no reason for me to go out protesting for more genders or whatever nonsense people think is social change. At most I'd join a non mainstream party that had real solutions and a shot at getting power.

[Takso]

Good, it is absolutely necessary.

Wow, I don't think I've ever seen someone support that before. Maybe that's because it's shit legislation and shouldn't exist.

There's nothing happening worth protesting.

I'm guessing you're white, have no gender but are also not agender, and live under a rock?

What's "shit" about the Patriot Act?

[Cekoviu]

Wow, I don't think I've ever seen someone support that before. Maybe that's because it's shit legislation and shouldn't exist.

I'm guessing you're white, have no gender but are also not agender, and live under a rock?

What's "shit" about the Patriot Act?

Basically all of Title II, for starters.
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[GLDF]

Trump has certainly tested every limit of sanity we could expect, but I'm proud to say America is over yet. Unless everything goes wrong, the USA will be back on track.

[US-SSR]

Just curious, what is your first language and is your country led by a right-wing nutjob too (only assuming you haven't recently immigrated to the US of course)?


You do realize that the reason America exists is so that people who were persecuted in their home countries for their religious and politically beliefs right? Anti-immigrant groups who value a white anti-catholic state with closed borders and want to be rid of foreigners by any means basically believe that America shouldn't exist in the first place.


Because whenever a Republican hears even the slightest criticism of Trump they always have a good natured laugh and politely admit that he has some flaws like any other candidate without getting defensive.


As an American I can unironically verify that many people think that Mussolini and Hitler were leftists. The country is that far to the right.


Forgive me if I misunderstood the context of your conversation, but based on how I read it you do realize that both Russia and China are capitalist right?


Sorry for doing that to you, I just really wanted to know if Americans were capable of reacting to the loss of their democracy at all should that ever happen in the future (not necessarily in the next four years).

I don't even know where to begin to respond, I think the best way is post by post where necessary and possible, lol America is a democracy under President Trump, this will do for now, I have a very busy time tonight with the leftist Presidential debate in real life and my RP on it.

America is an oligarchy under the Electoral Collage et. al. In a democracy the candidate who gets the most votes wins the office, not the one who ran second.

I was laughing so hard I had to wipe a tear from my eye because I knew that the Trump-haters would go TDS bonkers over this -- and they have. NOAA did report that the hurricane was heading toward Alabama and Mississippi (on its then current trajectory). The sharpie mark was to emphasize the (then) current direction. Anyone who cannot see that Trump speaks his mind on the issues (for good or ill) as he sees them at that time (naysayers and their narratives be darned) are going to have a hard time with him. They are also going to have a hard time outside of their illiberal bubbles especially when encountering other Americans from parts of the country who still speak their minds freely and expect others to do the same.

Do you not know how a hurricane cone works? His markings would have meant that the hurricane had an equal probability of the center passing Alabama to the central US. That’s a dangerous “emphasis”

Clarity is needed here. Trump's response to Sharpiegate is troubling, not because of some "deep state" conspiracy against him, not so much because public officials who should both know better and own some stones in order to do the right thing did not, but because the man is not well. As Peter Wehner writes in The Atlantic, we don't need to make a comprehensive diagnosis to conclude that the President of the United States is unhinged and starting to decompensate, just as we don't need to be experienced mechanics to conclude that there is something wrong with our car when smoke is pouring out from under the hood and we smell burning oil. Quite apart from whatever the dubious motives of anyone who would try to defend him for drawing on a weather map in order to perpetuate a ridiculous, transparent lie, for the sake of the nation he needs to be removed from the office he is manifestly unqualified to occupy, the sooner the better.

If not, America's breaking point will be when we are left with the wistful feeling that once our nation was a force to be reckoned with in the world, just like so many former imperial powers before us back to Babylon and Assyria.

[Holy Tedalonia]

Personally I don't have that much faith in the American people. I honestly believe that Trump could declare himself president for life, repeal the first amendment, reinstate segregation, openly deny the holocaust, publicly execute political enemies, place hispanics in death camps, invade Greenland, invite Russian troops, and make pineapple pizza the national food, and Americans would still stare at their screens drooling and completely indifferent to the world around them.

Clearly you havent been to America, or your sands in the dirt. Were very volatile chaps we are. One slight and we whine. However these notions would push america to open revolt.

[New haven america]

Funny, considering Trump supporters 3 years ago were screaming about how America isn't a democracy.

Uh no, we're not. We have democratic elements and institutions but we're not a complete democracy.

Definitely more democratic than China. There's literally no reason for me to go out protesting for more genders or whatever nonsense people think is social change. At most I'd join a non mainstream party that had real solutions and a shot at getting power.

Here we go.

Can you guys like form your own little group like the Council of Nicea and figure out if America's actually a democracy or not? That'd be great, K'thanks?