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Has Shinzo Abe's leadership been good for Japan?

Yes
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No
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Unsure
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FelrikTheDeleted
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:52 pm

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Boxing is pretty good.


Hello Felrik; I haven't seen you around here in quite a while. How's your life been?


Pretty meh all things considered, finally able to vote, not that I’m particularly happy about it. Thanks for asking. What about yours?

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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:54 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Boxing is pretty good.


Very much so. Really anything like that is imo.


True, true. Whilst I like boxing, it’s probably my favourite sport and pastime, other combat sports are pretty good. I find the grappling in MMA pretty interesting.

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The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord
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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:54 pm

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Hello Felrik; I haven't seen you around here in quite a while. How's your life been?


Pretty meh all things considered, finally able to vote, not that I’m particularly happy about it. Thanks for asking. What about yours?


Things have never been better, at least for me. I move into my dorm on Friday of this week, and classes begin Monday of next week. I bet that my freshman year of university will be great! My prospects are looking rather bright. As to my current (but likely not final, tbh) politics since we've last interacted... well, some inspirations are in my sig. Have your politics changed at all, mate?
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My NS stats are not indicative of my OOC views. NS stats are meant to be rather silly. My OOC political and ideological inspirations are as such:
The Republic, by Plato | Leviathan, by Thomas Hobbes | The Confucian civil service system of imperial China | The "Golden Liberty" elective
monarchy system of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth | The corporatist/technocratic philosophy of Henri de Saint-Simon | The communitarian
ideological framework of the Singaporean People's Action Party | "New Deal"-style societal regimentation | Kantian/Mohist/Stoic philosophy

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Salus Maior
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:55 pm

Greater Loegria wrote:I too subscribe to Shire-ism and Tolkein’s rural aesthetic. I wish Britain could just be a collection of villages of thatched cottages and stone chapels where most people either farm or run small artisan shops. Where everyone goes to church on Sunday and play cricket on Saturday afternoons in the summer or rugby in the winter.


*sigh* That would be ideal.
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"In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum

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The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord
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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:56 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Greater Loegria wrote:I too subscribe to Shire-ism and Tolkein’s rural aesthetic. I wish Britain could just be a collection of villages of thatched cottages and stone chapels where most people either farm or run small artisan shops. Where everyone goes to church on Sunday and play cricket on Saturday afternoons in the summer or rugby in the winter.


*sigh* That would be ideal.


Wait. Are you a Brit? Tbh, I've forgotten.
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My NS stats are not indicative of my OOC views. NS stats are meant to be rather silly. My OOC political and ideological inspirations are as such:
The Republic, by Plato | Leviathan, by Thomas Hobbes | The Confucian civil service system of imperial China | The "Golden Liberty" elective
monarchy system of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth | The corporatist/technocratic philosophy of Henri de Saint-Simon | The communitarian
ideological framework of the Singaporean People's Action Party | "New Deal"-style societal regimentation | Kantian/Mohist/Stoic philosophy

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Jack Thomas Lang
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Postby Jack Thomas Lang » Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:56 pm

Salus Maior wrote:*sigh* That would be ideal.

Ugh, don't even think about it. The genie is out of the bottle, and such an idyllic society would be impossible nowadays. Thinking about it is just painful.

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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:57 pm

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Pretty meh all things considered, finally able to vote, not that I’m particularly happy about it. Thanks for asking. What about yours?


Things have never been better, at least for me. I move into my dorm on Friday of this week, and classes begin Monday of next week. I bet that my freshman year of university will be great! My prospects are looking rather bright. As to my current (but likely not final, tbh) politics since we've last interacted... well, some inspirations are in my sig. Have your politics changed at all, mate?


Good to hear things are going well. As for politics, no, not really, I’m still the same trad Cath I suppose

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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:00 pm

Jack Thomas Lang wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:*sigh* That would be ideal.

Ugh, don't even think about it. The genie is out of the bottle, and such an idyllic society would be impossible nowadays. Thinking about it is just painful.


I wouldn't say it's impossible, you'd just need to have an authoritarian state to maintain it.
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Postby Jack Thomas Lang » Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:02 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:I wouldn't say it's impossible, you'd just need to have an authoritarian state to maintain it.

If Pol Pot couldn't do it, the others don't have a chance. Imagine trying to force millions of suburbanites into villages and a rural lifestyle. In most cases, they don't have a shared geographical identity or faith.

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Salus Maior
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:03 pm

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
*sigh* That would be ideal.


Wait. Are you a Brit? Tbh, I've forgotten.


No, I'm American. But I think I have more in common in terms of my political and religious outlook with Brits than Americans. Probably because both my parents are from the Commonwealth.
Traditionalist Catholic, Constitutional Monarchist, Habsburg Nostalgic, Distributist, Disillusioned Millennial.

"In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum

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Postby Kowani » Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:04 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Jack Thomas Lang wrote:Ugh, don't even think about it. The genie is out of the bottle, and such an idyllic society would be impossible nowadays. Thinking about it is just painful.


I wouldn't say it's impossible, you'd just need to have an authoritarian state to maintain it.

“Gets invaded in a month.”
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The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord
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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:05 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Wait. Are you a Brit? Tbh, I've forgotten.


No, I'm American. But I think I have more in common in terms of my political and religious outlook with Brits than Americans. Probably because both my parents are from the Commonwealth.


Which part of the Commonwealth? Since you're American, I'm going to guess Canada, but I could be wrong.
< THE HIGH SWAGLORD | 8VALUES | POLITISCALES >
My NS stats are not indicative of my OOC views. NS stats are meant to be rather silly. My OOC political and ideological inspirations are as such:
The Republic, by Plato | Leviathan, by Thomas Hobbes | The Confucian civil service system of imperial China | The "Golden Liberty" elective
monarchy system of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth | The corporatist/technocratic philosophy of Henri de Saint-Simon | The communitarian
ideological framework of the Singaporean People's Action Party | "New Deal"-style societal regimentation | Kantian/Mohist/Stoic philosophy

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Salus Maior
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:05 pm

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
No, I'm American. But I think I have more in common in terms of my political and religious outlook with Brits than Americans. Probably because both my parents are from the Commonwealth.


Which part of the Commonwealth? Since you're American, I'm going to guess Canada, but I could be wrong.


New Zealand and Canada.
Traditionalist Catholic, Constitutional Monarchist, Habsburg Nostalgic, Distributist, Disillusioned Millennial.

"In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum

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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:06 pm

Jack Thomas Lang wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:I wouldn't say it's impossible, you'd just need to have an authoritarian state to maintain it.

If Pol Pot couldn't do it, the others don't have a chance. Imagine trying to force millions of suburbanites into villages and a rural lifestyle. In most cases, they don't have a shared geographical identity or faith.


Tbf the only reason Pol Pot didn't last was cuz he wasn't strong enough. Also he was batshit.
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Salus Maior
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:06 pm

Kowani wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I wouldn't say it's impossible, you'd just need to have an authoritarian state to maintain it.

“Gets invaded in a month.”


Nobody's saying it wouldn't.

Like I said, it's an ideal, not a reality unfortunately.
Traditionalist Catholic, Constitutional Monarchist, Habsburg Nostalgic, Distributist, Disillusioned Millennial.

"In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum

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The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord
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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:06 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Which part of the Commonwealth? Since you're American, I'm going to guess Canada, but I could be wrong.


New Zealand and Canada.


Ah. Do you have any (reasonably close) family currently residing in New Zealand, by any chance?
< THE HIGH SWAGLORD | 8VALUES | POLITISCALES >
My NS stats are not indicative of my OOC views. NS stats are meant to be rather silly. My OOC political and ideological inspirations are as such:
The Republic, by Plato | Leviathan, by Thomas Hobbes | The Confucian civil service system of imperial China | The "Golden Liberty" elective
monarchy system of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth | The corporatist/technocratic philosophy of Henri de Saint-Simon | The communitarian
ideological framework of the Singaporean People's Action Party | "New Deal"-style societal regimentation | Kantian/Mohist/Stoic philosophy

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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:07 pm

Kowani wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I wouldn't say it's impossible, you'd just need to have an authoritarian state to maintain it.

“Gets invaded in a month.”


You'd do well to remember I believe in mass WMD usage lol
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Salus Maior
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:07 pm

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
New Zealand and Canada.


Ah. Do you have any (reasonably close) family currently residing in New Zealand, by any chance?


Yep.
Traditionalist Catholic, Constitutional Monarchist, Habsburg Nostalgic, Distributist, Disillusioned Millennial.

"In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum

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The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord
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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:08 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Ah. Do you have any (reasonably close) family currently residing in New Zealand, by any chance?


Yep.


Neat. Have you ever been to New Zealand yourself?
< THE HIGH SWAGLORD | 8VALUES | POLITISCALES >
My NS stats are not indicative of my OOC views. NS stats are meant to be rather silly. My OOC political and ideological inspirations are as such:
The Republic, by Plato | Leviathan, by Thomas Hobbes | The Confucian civil service system of imperial China | The "Golden Liberty" elective
monarchy system of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth | The corporatist/technocratic philosophy of Henri de Saint-Simon | The communitarian
ideological framework of the Singaporean People's Action Party | "New Deal"-style societal regimentation | Kantian/Mohist/Stoic philosophy

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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:09 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Kowani wrote:“Gets invaded in a month.”


You'd do well to remember I believe in mass WMD usage lol

With a rural shire-esque society you expect to have the infrastructure for that? Pssh.
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Jack Thomas Lang
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Postby Jack Thomas Lang » Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:10 pm

Honestly, the closest we can get to the rural ideal are suburban "villages". I envision a community of houses, each residence growing food in the backyard, organised under local councils. Even then, the distribution of employment and cultural/religious differences put paid to that idea.

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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:11 pm

Kowani wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
You'd do well to remember I believe in mass WMD usage lol

With a rural shire-esque society you expect to have the infrastructure for that? Pssh.


I don't believe every aspect of society should be like that. For the common folk, yes. But industries of war must be maintained to defend them.
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The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord
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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:12 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Kowani wrote:“Gets invaded in a month.”


You'd do well to remember I believe in mass WMD usage lol


I just figured out your politics. Right-Wing Posadism.
< THE HIGH SWAGLORD | 8VALUES | POLITISCALES >
My NS stats are not indicative of my OOC views. NS stats are meant to be rather silly. My OOC political and ideological inspirations are as such:
The Republic, by Plato | Leviathan, by Thomas Hobbes | The Confucian civil service system of imperial China | The "Golden Liberty" elective
monarchy system of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth | The corporatist/technocratic philosophy of Henri de Saint-Simon | The communitarian
ideological framework of the Singaporean People's Action Party | "New Deal"-style societal regimentation | Kantian/Mohist/Stoic philosophy

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Salus Maior
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:13 pm

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Yep.


Neat. Have you ever been to New Zealand yourself?


Yep.
Traditionalist Catholic, Constitutional Monarchist, Habsburg Nostalgic, Distributist, Disillusioned Millennial.

"In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum

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The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord
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Postby The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord » Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:14 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Neat. Have you ever been to New Zealand yourself?


Yep.


What's it like there? I've heard that it's generally a pleasant country. Is that the case?
< THE HIGH SWAGLORD | 8VALUES | POLITISCALES >
My NS stats are not indicative of my OOC views. NS stats are meant to be rather silly. My OOC political and ideological inspirations are as such:
The Republic, by Plato | Leviathan, by Thomas Hobbes | The Confucian civil service system of imperial China | The "Golden Liberty" elective
monarchy system of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth | The corporatist/technocratic philosophy of Henri de Saint-Simon | The communitarian
ideological framework of the Singaporean People's Action Party | "New Deal"-style societal regimentation | Kantian/Mohist/Stoic philosophy

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