Dating is at a Record Low: Another Dating Thread

[Bienenhalde]

The main problem with promiscuity is dysgenics, not STD.

Wouldn't the man with the best genes pass them on to the most women? That makes more sense than a man with superior genes only having one kid with one woman, when women would be flocking to him

Yeah, but what if the man with the best genes would rather just have a stable monogamous relationship with one women? And what if he cannot find any women who wants the same thing? That could be a problem in societies where promiscuity is the norm.

[Rojava Free State]

For all the talk about "alpha males" taking all the women. I haven't met a single self-described "alpha male" who wasn't an unrepentant asshole who treated women like shit and pretended to understand what women wanted while spouting pseudo-intellectual bullshit that only other men wanted to hear.

What men and women consider attractive differs. So many men seem to cling to these idea that women want some stoic body builder who takes care of their every need and never shows any weakness. But that isn't a female fantasy, it's a male fantasy sold to other men. I've posted about this before, but most women's media now tends to celebrate soft and cultured men. Men that will offer to help you with things without being asked, men who notice your interests and compliments you on them, men who are well-groomed and willing to put some effort into their appearance, and men that don't feel the need to act tough around you all the time and are willing to show their emotions and let you in. All of these things demonstrate that your partner is willing to put effort into caring for themselves and can be relied upon. That maturity, that confidence, its sexy. Far sexier than a bunch of dude bros ripping it at the gym and catcalling girls.

Feed a fantasy enough and convince enough people that it's the truth and it will become a reality, and with devastating consequences

[Nova Cyberia]

Incels are not interested purely in sex. If you think that's all they want then you're only further demonstrating how little you understand about the people you complain about.

Incels want sex, yes. But they also want an emotional connection with someone. They want an actual, meaningful relationship. Because I guess they believe that fucking some random person isn't really fulfilling. Crazy, right?

Guess what? Hating on and degrading women isn't a great way to get women to go for you

I have no sympathy for these incels because they act like total assholes and reject any advice people give them as well. They thrive off being professional victims.

They have a self-defeating ideology, yes. It's because they exist in a maelstrom of depression and bitterness. Depressed people do not always think rationally.

[Threlizdun]

Are you out of your mind? Do you not know how math works? Literally nobody would be able to do that.

That's having sex with more than one person A DAY.

THERE'S 365 DAYS IN THE YEAR.

Did you seriously just say that unironically.

Wow, you can't do math and you actually buy into Incel memes.

You still single?

I always love when people are so consumed by their need to feel superior to others that they interpret statements so obviously caricaturized and exaggerated as "having sex with 500 people" to be taken as a literal statement, and then elevate themselves by being so smart and wise as to not believe such a claim could be accurate. Please debunk my claim that the Africans would have flying pyramid space ships if not for white colonists as well, if you're not too busy reading Snopes' latest debunking of the Babylon Bee, or marathoning Rick and Morty of course.

So do you have anything to offer other than extreme hyperbole and getting pissy when people challenge your ridiculous statements?

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Yeah, exactly, they're not scientific. They mean nothing.

Could easily be incels making shit up to make women look bad because they don't have anything else to do, since they're incapable of finding the perfect subjugate woman to worship the ground they walk on.

Also, incels aren't one to judge people on being shallow, considering the ideology basically obsesses over looks, disregarding that plenty of physically ugly people have sex and even reproduce, their ugly-ass parents included, apparently.

Incels are not interested purely in sex. If you think that's all they want then you're only further demonstrating how little you understand about the people you complain about.

Incels want sex, yes. But they also want an emotional connection with someone. They want an actual, meaningful relationship. Because I guess they believe that fucking some random person isn't really fulfilling. Crazy, right?

They're not going to have either of these things while they're spewing their disgusting views on women. Some people have a more difficult time than others finding sex and romance, but it's the incel ideology and attitude that turns "difficult" into "impossible."

There are women out there who might find some of these incels attractive or charming and would want to give them a chance, but there are none who would give them a chance if he openly expressed his beliefs.

[The Rich Port]

We seem to have different definitions of what "incels" are.

Either that or you have a bias for incels. Either way, forcing women to worship you isn't a legitimate emotional connection.

Okay, dude, I'm not demanding women worship me. I don't identify as an incel. I'm just explaining them to you so you can have a better understanding of what they want.

I think it's you that doesn't have a very good grasp of what incels are. Educate yourself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMr5ovZkDCs

Are you out of your mind? Do you not know how math works? Literally nobody would be able to do that.

That's having sex with more than one person A DAY.

THERE'S 365 DAYS IN THE YEAR.

Did you seriously just say that unironically.

Wow, you can't do math and you actually buy into Incel memes.

You still single?

I always love when people are so consumed by their need to feel superior to others that they interpret statements so obviously caricaturized and exaggerated as "having sex with 500 people" to be taken as a literal statement, and then elevate themselves by being so smart and wise as to not believe such a claim could be accurate. Please debunk my claim that the Africans would have flying pyramid space ships if not for white colonists as well, if you're not too busy reading Snopes' latest debunking of the Babylon Bee, or marathoning Rick and Morty of course.

You're the one who made the claim, not my fault it's exaggerated horse-shit.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

And yet, oddly enough, that's not what you're doing right now.

Dunno what your incel buddies tell you but us Chads don't have sex constantly, only when we feel like it.

So did you get bored of girls flirting with you, or are fewer of them flirting with you than before?

[Rojava Free State]

Guess what? Hating on and degrading women isn't a great way to get women to go for you

I have no sympathy for these incels because they act like total assholes and reject any advice people give them as well. They thrive off being professional victims.

They have a self-defeating ideology, yes. It's because they exist in a maelstrom of depression and bitterness. Depressed people do not always think rationally.

It would help them if they would #1 listen to advice and #2 stop portraying every woman as the devil.

[Ethel mermania]

For all the talk about "alpha males" taking all the women. I haven't met a single self-described "alpha male" who wasn't an unrepentant asshole who treated women like shit and pretended to understand what women wanted while spouting pseudo-intellectual bullshit that only other men wanted to hear.

What men and women consider attractive differs. So many men seem to cling to these idea that women want some stoic body builder who takes care of their every need and never shows any weakness. But that isn't a female fantasy, it's a male fantasy sold to other men. I've posted about this before, but most women's media now tends to celebrate soft and cultured men. Men that will offer to help you with things without being asked, men who notice your interests and compliments you on them, men who are well-groomed and willing to put some effort into their appearance, and men that don't feel the need to act tough around you all the time and are willing to show their emotions and let you in. All of these things demonstrate that your partner is willing to put effort into caring for themselves and can be relied upon. That maturity, that confidence, its sexy. Far sexier than a bunch of dude bros ripping it at the gym and catcalling girls.

You can be an alpha Male without being an asshole, just sayin

[Nova Cyberia]

Okay, dude, I'm not demanding women worship me. I don't identify as an incel. I'm just explaining them to you so you can have a better understanding of what they want.

I think it's you that doesn't have a very good grasp of what incels are. Educate yourself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMr5ovZkDCs

I always love when people are so consumed by their need to feel superior to others that they interpret statements so obviously caricaturized and exaggerated as "having sex with 500 people" to be taken as a literal statement, and then elevate themselves by being so smart and wise as to not believe such a claim could be accurate. Please debunk my claim that the Africans would have flying pyramid space ships if not for white colonists as well, if you're not too busy reading Snopes' latest debunking of the Babylon Bee, or marathoning Rick and Morty of course.

You're the one who made the claim, not my fault it's exaggerated horse-shit.

Some random YouTuber's videos are peak education.

[Crockerland]

Incels are not interested purely in sex. If you think that's all they want then you're only further demonstrating how little you understand about the people you complain about.

Incels want sex, yes. But they also want an emotional connection with someone. They want an actual, meaningful relationship. Because I guess they believe that fucking some random person isn't really fulfilling. Crazy, right?

We seem to have different definitions of what "incels" are.

Either that or you have a bias for incels. Either way, forcing women to worship you isn't a legitimate emotional connection.

Forcing women to worship them?
I don't think so Rich Port, most of them want a date, marriage, or just sex, none of which involve ritualistic acts of worship. I rate this claim mostly false.

[Nova Cyberia]

Incels are not interested purely in sex. If you think that's all they want then you're only further demonstrating how little you understand about the people you complain about.

Incels want sex, yes. But they also want an emotional connection with someone. They want an actual, meaningful relationship. Because I guess they believe that fucking some random person isn't really fulfilling. Crazy, right?

They're not going to have either of these things while they're spewing their disgusting views on women. Some people have a more difficult time than others finding sex and romance, but it's the incel ideology and attitude that turns "difficult" into "impossible."

There are women out there who might find some of these incels attractive or charming and would want to give them a chance, but there are none who would give them a chance if he openly expressed his beliefs.

Yes. As I said, their ideology is self-defeating.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

Incels are not interested purely in sex. If you think that's all they want then you're only further demonstrating how little you understand about the people you complain about.

Incels want sex, yes. But they also want an emotional connection with someone. They want an actual, meaningful relationship. Because I guess they believe that fucking some random person isn't really fulfilling. Crazy, right?

We seem to have different definitions of what "incels" are.

Either that or you have a bias for incels. Either way, forcing women to worship you isn't a legitimate emotional connection.

Definitions are not opinions. They belong to whomever invented the word or phrase in question.

So the question becomes who invented the word.

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For all the talk about "alpha males" taking all the women. I haven't met a single self-described "alpha male" who wasn't an unrepentant asshole who treated women like shit and pretended to understand what women wanted while spouting pseudo-intellectual bullshit that only other men wanted to hear.

What men and women consider attractive differs. So many men seem to cling to these idea that women want some stoic body builder who takes care of their every need and never shows any weakness. But that isn't a female fantasy, it's a male fantasy sold to other men. I've posted about this before, but most women's media now tends to celebrate soft and cultured men. Men that will offer to help you with things without being asked, men who notice your interests and compliments you on them, men who are well-groomed and willing to put some effort into their appearance, and men that don't feel the need to act tough around you all the time and are willing to show their emotions and let you in. All of these things demonstrate that your partner is willing to put effort into caring for themselves and can be relied upon. That maturity, that confidence, its sexy. Far sexier than a bunch of dude bros ripping it at the gym and catcalling girls.

You can be an alpha Male without being an asshole, just sayin

There is no such thing as alpha males among humans.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

They're not going to have either of these things while they're spewing their disgusting views on women. Some people have a more difficult time than others finding sex and romance, but it's the incel ideology and attitude that turns "difficult" into "impossible."

There are women out there who might find some of these incels attractive or charming and would want to give them a chance, but there are none who would give them a chance if he openly expressed his beliefs.

Yes. As I said, their ideology is self-defeating.

Yep, call the ones you want to bang and have a relationship with femoids, you won’t get very far.

[Rojava Free State]

For all the talk about "alpha males" taking all the women. I haven't met a single self-described "alpha male" who wasn't an unrepentant asshole who treated women like shit and pretended to understand what women wanted while spouting pseudo-intellectual bullshit that only other men wanted to hear.

What men and women consider attractive differs. So many men seem to cling to these idea that women want some stoic body builder who takes care of their every need and never shows any weakness. But that isn't a female fantasy, it's a male fantasy sold to other men. I've posted about this before, but most women's media now tends to celebrate soft and cultured men. Men that will offer to help you with things without being asked, men who notice your interests and compliments you on them, men who are well-groomed and willing to put some effort into their appearance, and men that don't feel the need to act tough around you all the time and are willing to show their emotions and let you in. All of these things demonstrate that your partner is willing to put effort into caring for themselves and can be relied upon. That maturity, that confidence, its sexy. Far sexier than a bunch of dude bros ripping it at the gym and catcalling girls.

You can be an alpha Male without being an asshole, just sayin

We live in a society where men are increasingly becoming polarized into two camps, one being the betas and the other being the goonies. They both are almost like group representations of the superego and the id. The betas are weak willed and let everyone walk all over them while the goonies lash out at every one and everything with violence

That's not healthy in the least

[Bienenhalde]

You can't have sex with your smartphone, so that can't be it.

I think increased awareness of child support law that has forced the issue. The risks of sex were always a factor, but our middle school sex ed didn't tell us that even if a woman claims before sex that she wouldn't keep the baby, you are still going to be thrown into poverty by child support bills if she decides otherwise. I had to look up child support law and news stories of "dead-broke dads" to discover that, and it wouldn't have even been brought to my attention if not for the Internet.

All of those problems could easily be avoided if men acted responsibly and used protection or did not have sex if they could not afford having children.

[Threlizdun]

For all the talk about "alpha males" taking all the women. I haven't met a single self-described "alpha male" who wasn't an unrepentant asshole who treated women like shit and pretended to understand what women wanted while spouting pseudo-intellectual bullshit that only other men wanted to hear.

What men and women consider attractive differs. So many men seem to cling to these idea that women want some stoic body builder who takes care of their every need and never shows any weakness. But that isn't a female fantasy, it's a male fantasy sold to other men. I've posted about this before, but most women's media now tends to celebrate soft and cultured men. Men that will offer to help you with things without being asked, men who notice your interests and compliments you on them, men who are well-groomed and willing to put some effort into their appearance, and men that don't feel the need to act tough around you all the time and are willing to show their emotions and let you in. All of these things demonstrate that your partner is willing to put effort into caring for themselves and can be relied upon. That maturity, that confidence, its sexy. Far sexier than a bunch of dude bros ripping it at the gym and catcalling girls.

You can be an alpha Male without being an asshole, just sayin

I sincerely doubt anyone who non-ironically calls themselves an alpha male isn't an asshole. If you weren't, you wouldn't be using such ridiculous narcissistic terms for yourself. Humans don't have alpha/beta dynamics. Hell, not even wolves actually have alpha/beta dynamics.

[Rojava Free State]

Yes. As I said, their ideology is self-defeating.

Yep, call the ones you want to bang and have a relationship with femoids, you won’t get very far.

What the hell is a femoid? That isn't even as offensive as it is totally stupid

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

Yes. As I said, their ideology is self-defeating.

Yep, call the ones you want to bang and have a relationship with femoids, you won’t get very far.

The incel is basally afraid. Afraid of failure. That explains pretty much everything they do. It’s not a legitimate ideology or grievance. It’s fear packaged as it.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Yep, call the ones you want to bang and have a relationship with femoids, you won’t get very far.

What the hell is a femoid? That isn't even as offensive as it is totally stupid

Ask incels. Be astounded or revolted.

[Bienenhalde]

You can't have sex with your smartphone, so that can't be it.

Tell that to the crazy amount of people who are addicted to porn nowadays lol

Yes, maybe we should ban porn so more people will actually look for real relationships instead.

[Rojava Free State]

What the hell is a femoid? That isn't even as offensive as it is totally stupid

Ask incels. Be astounded or revolted.

I had a chat with one recently on this site, and it ended with him claiming I was stupid and out of touch with reality for not recognizing the inherent evil that is women

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Ask incels. Be astounded or revolted.

I had a chat with one recently on this site, and it ended with him claiming I was stupid and out of touch with reality for not recognizing the inherent evil that is women

Then you’re already in the know.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Tell that to the crazy amount of people who are addicted to porn nowadays lol

Yes, maybe we should ban porn so more people will actually look for real relationships instead.

I'm actually coming around to agree with this point tbh. Widespread porn consumption has warped an entire generations ideas of sex and can seriously fuck with your brain.